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You mean the one that supposed to come out "very soon"??? :D

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Some folks just don't get it and perhaps shouldn't. [irony]I mean, the N800 positively sucks when compared with, say, my delightful windex box, or, perhaps, a Cray supercomputer? [/irony] Go get you one of those iphonys.

Bye. Don't let the door hit you in the *** on the way out:p

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Did I say that? :rolleyes:

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No... but just checking you know what the next firmware release is... :p

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You're getting worse than I am.

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I was wondering about this, what with all the clamoring for A2DP.
I've only experienced one stereo Bluetooth headphone (I live in a somewhat isolated place) and that's a Logitech. I ordered it because it has a separate broadcasting unit that plugs into any device with a 3.5mm headphone jack and violla....wireless. Problem is, the high frequencies are quite attenuated compared to any half-way decent set of wired phones or buds. I figured it was just because they are Logitechs (even though they weren't cheap.)
So, is there a drop in fidelity with bluetooth stereo headphones?

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Boy, trouble in paradise already?

As most of you probably already know, a limited quantity of iPod Touches started showing up on store shelves at Apple retail and Best Buy early, and apparently a large enough number of them have been showing up with bad screens to start several discussion threads at iLounge (three or four threads), Macrumors, and most notably Apple's own support forums. Worse yet, Gizmodo and a reviewer from the Washington Post obviously got bum screens on theirs and Engadget has picked up on the story as well. It seems the common complaint is that the affected screens don't just wash out blacks and dark colors, but wash them out to the point that the video almost looks like a photo negative, even viewing the screen straight on.

This dun look good, Lucy!

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those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

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A few dozen bad screens and everyone starts ragging. No one makes a perfect device, not even Apple. Look at how many complaints there are on this site for the n800. It's bound to happen.

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Maybe Apple will refuse to acknowledge the screen problem for several months, leaving users no other choice but to send their devices in for sometimes lengthy repairs and then miraculously with no forewarning Apple will fix the screen problems via a firmware upgrade.

No hang on, substitute Apple with Nokia in the above paragraph and it's a situation we can all relate to.

Apple will no doubt replace defective iPod Touches "no questions asked" in the nearest Apple store.

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Interesting comment in the Washington Post article - "Mobile Safari is the best portable Web browser around"... without meaning to reignite the debate, it's comments like that which, for the average consumer (ie. the overwhelming majority of consumers), make the iPod/iPhone competitors to the N800. Of course the Washington Post reviewer may never even have heard of the N800, but that doesn't matter to his readership who will now take some convincing if they ever come face to face with an N800...

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Yea, they're probably comparing it to exploder on winmobile devices. I've not had a chance to play with one yet. The only iPhone/iPod touch I've seen so far was one that an Apple rep owned. He was up looking in to our one laptop per student program we have going. Lets just call mobile home directories and wireless networks not a good idea.... He said this is the first place he's been that you couldn't get an iPhone. I said welcome to the *** end of nowhere. :rolleyes:

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What about the iPhone/iTouch WiFi power/range ?
The N800 is really wonderfull : it's better than my laptop/desktop !

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Hey, that's a good question murphy. Why hasn't anyone brought up the WiFi strength and range comparison between the two devices yet?

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I got an iPhone recently and the range isn't as spectacular as my 770. However, its adequate that I don't notice signal drops, but with the 770, I was picking up a lot more AP with low signals since its reach seems to be far greater.

I thought the Safari browser would be annoying to use, but it turns out, its quite useful. Zooming into a section of the page basically means I can not be distracted by ads since usually most webpages consist of 40% of ad space.

The one thing I don't like, and I hope Nokia figures out a better way to handle it, is the heat the iPhone generates. The phone gets warm, not burn your hands warm but I don't like hope Apple relies on the casing to be a heat sink. I know this is gonna be an issue once handheld chips get faster and are required to do more.

What I DO like is the fact that the iphone isn't bulging out of my pockets when I'm walking and the touchscreen response time is much better than the 770.

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Within Nokia's walls, I've definitely hammered home the power and tendencies of device reviewers. Nokia as a corporation has decided recently to hyperfocus on people who are seen as trendsetters and recommenders; that of course includes reviewers, which means we should be taking them more seriously. We'll see.

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If its Rob Pegoraro, then yes, he does know about the n800

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You know, I wasn't really trying to compare it to anything. The tone of this thread started out with a "the iPod Touch is here, the sky is falling" sort of attitude. I guess I was really trying to point out that Apple is human and not some demi-god whose products are going to be these perfect world beaters or always necessarily well received. I think that the posts and stories in those links also illustrate that if you're going to hype the hell out of a proposed flagship product you'd better watch your keister because all the high profile media outlets are going to put it under a microscope as soon as possible, and if you stumble with your quality control as Apple obviously did, it's going to get blown up and look ten times worse than if someone like Nokia, Motorola, Sandisk or Creative did it. I use Apple products and Mac OS X as my primary OS on a daily basis, but I still realize that they are a corporation just like any other (nonetheless one with a genius marketing machine) and not some warm, fuzzy, benevolent entity.

I'd also dispute that it's more than just a few dozen screens. It's just too big a coincidence that several noteworthy reviewers across the country would all just happen to get units with poor screens.

It's happened before with faulty iBooks and such. They'll quietly fix the problem and then acknowledge it once the improved units start shipping. They kind of do it in a left handed fashion, but they usually are good about eventually admitting their shortcomings. Fortunately it typically doesn't take them several months and I'd wager that quite a few Apple employees didn't get much sleep this weekend and they'd already triaged this issue at the factories before the sun rose Monday morning. Mr. Jobs isn't very tolerant of problems that cast Apple in a negative light.

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Just stumbled into this online video where N95, N800 and iPhone web browsers have been compared side by side...
http://www.viddler.com/atmasphere/videos/53/

This thread discusses about iPod Touch, but isn't the browser the same as in iPhone?

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No one noticed the slew of MIDS/UMPCs shown by Intel today?
Almost ALL of them based upon Linux?
I think Nokia showed these other companies that yes, Virginia, a Linux-based internet tablet CAN work well and provide good battery life.

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I was going to mention this, but then my 7 week old child wanted me to bounce with him on the exercise ball. I was a little distracted... happily so! =)

It's good to see that there will actually be *real* competitors to the n800/770 rather soon.

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Yea, I can take a macbook apart and change the heatsink in about 5 minutes now. :rolleyes:

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cant over how much apple turns me off. how do I get over this. if this was any other company with the exact same product I would pick it up in a second. is there such thing as being a brandist??

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Can you repeat that in english please??

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so the whole thing is illegible because its missing a single word? go upstairs and ask your mom to decipher it for you.

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Do you score extra elite point for being an emo in this community or something?
What's with all the negativity...

Cheer up, mate!

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Sorry, I don't live with my mom. It's just hard to read your posts, maybe if you used correct punctuation and capitalization. I guess you haven't got to that in school yet. Oh yea, your mom says "Hi".

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because punctuation really matters on the internet. apple just came out with the iphone. its pretty cool you should check it out.

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Only if you want to look like an eight year old dork.:rolleyes:

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Lets hope so. Over here in the UK, I saw the N800 on a display in PCWorld, but it didn't say what it was. Played with it a bit, thought it was a phone, got interested. Then I heard about it on a mac group when the 770s got cheap and someone was raving about them, so I got one. I hadn't heard about them anywhere else, and I read tech websites and such.
When I was last in PCWorld, I was fiddling with the display 800 (which was hard as the battery was dead and it was unplugged and shoved out of the way so it kept resetting), and a guy came over watching. He asked if it was a phone, I said no, he thanked me and walked off.

I have never been asked what an iPod was!

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What's an iPod?

:p

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It separates the Obviously Literate from the I'm Too Lazy to Make an Effort crowd.

And the milieu shouldn't matter. Expert communication skills are valued anywhere.

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Exactly.
If one can't communicate properly then one can be expected to be mowing my fcuking lawn forever.

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Another site I'm a member of bans people after a couple warnings for this. We do take into account obvious non-english speaking folks.

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No , it's illegible because the whole thing has been written with a total lack of punctuation , correct spelling and capitalisation .

Did you meant to say 'cant' [Insincere expression of sentiments. To speak in jargon. An oblique surface. To cause something to be at an oblique angle] , or perhaps the capitalised version : Cant . Perhaps you meant to say can't [Contracted version of can not] or possibly you intended to say Can't . As to what you intended to say next , with the missing word , is difficult to decode , given the ambiguity of your opening statement .

Next time you need to write some HTML , some C++ or ( worse ) machine code , try missing one item of punctuation , altering some capitalisation or misspelling a single command and you will soon see the importance of 'Getting it right when you write' . Even the internet needs good punctuation .

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I fall into the "too lazy to give a ##$#" category as some of you might have commented/guessed. And guess what? I'm not writing code, I'm writing on a f*cking msg board. And yes, I missed a few "capitalisations" "or perhaps you meant...capitalization" the fact that the few of you are actually bothered by my lack of caring speaks volumes about your lives, or lack there of. and I love the fact that because I'm on this board you assume I'm a coder, write C++ or machine code. (well, you're assumption would have been correct if you mentioned action script and html). but seriously. take that stylus pen out of your *** and lighten up son.

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funny, I had no trouble finding a job as a graphic designer, flash coder and illustrator at an ad agency. with my "lack of communication skills". Don't hurt your back with that lawn mower, try to take breaks every 15 mins. I've left some lemon aid on the counter in case you get thirsty.. cheers.

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Wow. What hostility from all here. I hope this isn't the general trend of these forums. Anyway. I think the iPod touch looks very modern and I do think its sleek and sexy. But at its price point for what you get, I don't think its very worth it. I'm sure many would disagree. But I've always found the iPods to be very flimsy and the iPods battery lifespan leaved a lot to be desired. The great thing about the iPod is that it got the attention of the hardware developers back on design along with technology, something that was lacking until Apple stepped into the limelight. So my view is that the Touch is another great design and a good refabrication of the iPhone, but I look forward to what others will come up with.

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It's the general trend on all forums, senior members love to haze the forum newbs trashing them for irrelevant rubbish . I don't take it serious.

I partially agree with you, but I think the ipod touch (if its going for under 300) is great for what you get (media center + internet on the go). I don't think I would pay that much for a 4 gig iphone though.