Re: Jolla 2 expectations
 

So you are talking about "background services". And how are these unique to Jolla/Sailfish? I had these functionality years ago on non-Sailfish device.

The issue I see for you is that other OSes use an API unfamiliar to you that you would have to learn and adapt to.
I must admit this is the exact thing that drawn me to Maemo - a familiar API. But API and promises and more promises do not make my daily life easier... We had a lot of fun together though and we'll always have Paris...

Already tried Jollagram from openrepos warehouse?

Re: Sw ecosystem of Sailfish, its health -or lack thereof
 

There is no such thing than Android OS.

There is AOSP which is nowadays like MER but with an UI and some few outdated core apps. Then there is Google Play Services + Google Apps which is almost like an OS. Whith just AOSP you are doomed. Or why do you think Cyanogen Inc tries to partner with Microsoft?

Re: Jolla 2 expectations
 

Examples from my usage pattern is Chess.com app, RSA SecurID for the company vpn and HERE maps for offline navigation. Do you consider these valid needs for a smartphone user?

PS. Sometimes hanging out in this site makes me feel like using android apps is commiting a crime.. :P

Re: Sw ecosystem of Sailfish, its health -or lack thereof
 

Exactly, if aosp is like mer but with gui, than jolla is like Google but less(missing gui), so to use 100% Foss part of jolla on your phone you'll need to write huge part of OS (UI), while with AOSP you can use it on phone outdated or not.
Basically Google at first used opensource so others can help them promote and develop mobile OS, but after getting to top, they locked out most important parts, while Jolla mostly did it on start only promising open sourcing parts and making it right what others companies don't, but after all they go same way :)

Re: Sw ecosystem of Sailfish, its health -or lack thereof
 

IMHO the Kindle Fires are the best Android tablets around, because they have a better UI (I find Lollipop terrible to use and look at) and come without the Google Play Services spyware, yet there is an app store with many good apps, all without Google Play Services.
And unlike Google Play, apps purchased in the Amazon store will run on any Android or Jolla Alien Dalvik device.

Re: Jolla 2 expectations
 

Social apps like Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, Skype, whatsapp, linkedin, instagram and so on, depends on people choice.
Other more useful services like local bus schedule, bank app, phone company app, bitcoin wallets, eBay, paypal and so on (some of them may have limited api and apps developed by 3rd party you'll never know if they steal your data)
Music services, meetup app, voip clients, proper tor apps with ui in few clicks, private browsing, smart home applications.
Games, yeah sometimes people play games

And ffs do not tell me YOU don't use any of this, as no one cares about you, phone is made for masses and not dozen who cares about compiling on phone only. As much as I don't like java or android, you can say it "android did it already" almost about any apps, services(like Simpsons and TV shows :)

And last thing, I'll remind you that official Qt app for conference last year(or was it already this one) was written in Qt for android and that's the version you ended up getting in jolla store. Android version of Qt app on phone officially using Qt as main framework. What else can prove that there are almost no devs, apps and even interest in jolla

Re: Sw ecosystem of Sailfish, its health -or lack thereof
 

Just my two cents:

As much as I like SFOS, I admit that clearly when/if they become as powerful as Google, they may/probably lose what I currently appreciate: transparency, relatively closed relationship with customers, a nice community, agility to adapt and evolve...etc...

BUT, I am living in the current time. What I see and what is really bad is when a company like Google is having close to a monopoly and can dictate whatever they like.
What can prevent a company from acting bad? Some regulation but more importantly, more competition.

I do like SFOS but I also much appreciate others that support other system (apart from the apple) because we need more alternative systems.

I think the current attack from the European Commission against Google is peanuts if there is no viable alternative.

Re: Sw ecosystem of Sailfish, its health -or lack thereof
 

As much as I am not fond of Canonical, Ubuntu Touch is closing on getting as usable as Sailfish.

Re: Sw ecosystem of Sailfish, its health -or lack thereof
 

Can you point out what do you mean by transperency and openness they have now exactly?
I hear this words a lot, from them and now from fans, but mostly always nothing stands behind. Most time they do not provide information or provide half side of it. There is no road map and some questions like when they'll opensource parts they promised to on launch, or where we stay on paid store that was promised. If you pay attention those questions are still unanswered and though they are top voted even on TJC. They do decide what question to answer and how, this is simple PR move. Android devs can be found on reddit, today even windows engages with devs and community, it's popular to promote to few people, who will be making cult for you and fight for you, telling how their platform is awesome and transparent with no actual base for that :)
Jolla is already acting like Google, so if they get big like Google they'll worse (simple logic)