Re: Marc Dillon left Jolla
 

Um... back then it stirred quite mixed reception when some wanted to keep this Maemo-only community-driven place with no strings attached to any company whatsoever. Some welcomed them but by all means, not all. Also, no company will make forum they cannot legally and otherwise control in any way their official site. However, they still were present here. Let's not twist the past into something that it was not just to make ourselves feel better or to some more wretched end.

Re: Marc Dillon left Jolla
 

Is it the same Style? I've got both at home (lucky me) and they look "completely" different.

Re: Marc Dillon left Jolla
 

I cannot understand why we have to blame Jolla for mistakes, everybody knew from the very beginning their task was very difficult and in practice it was proved even more difficult. We supported Jolla by buying the phone and the tablet, and some of us contributed too.

There is a big problem with all those talented developers leaving the company, it is really sad.

Re: Marc Dillon left Jolla
 

Yes, I don't think many blame them for trying to do their thing, first succeeding with a phone and then failing with a tablet. But why could Jolla be honest toward us? Don't you think we diserved that? Even now we have no clue but speculation.

Re: Marc Dillon left Jolla
 

Sure. Have a look for the Aigo x86 tablet.

Re: Marc Dillon left Jolla
 

You are scapegoating again, and also trying to claim that I am guilty of schadenfraude and have some agenda against Jolla, which is wrong. I am indifferent towards Jolla as a company, as I am indifferent to all for-profit enterprises. I have never suffered from the delusion that any business is my friend. I own several Nokia devices, and write software almost exclusively for those devices, but that does not mean I have ever felt any loyalty towards Nokia. I only do what I do because I enjoy it. I don't give a flying V for Nokia.

The only Jolla presence here has been a few employees posting infrequently in a personal capacity. Nothing that has been said here has had any effect on Jolla's sucess or failure. I doubt if any investors are even aware of this place.

Re: Marc Dillon left Jolla
 

From the comments.Well it does not say who designed it but:

https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-operations/

For your other question: it’s quite common nowadays for smaller device vendors operating in different markets to share some aspect of the product details, such as hardware design elements, to balance costs. This is what happened here too. Aigo is sold in mainland China, where the Jolla Tablet is not available, and thus certain elements have been shared.

As already stated here, Jolla Tablet is a lot different from a HW point of view. It has a significantly better fully laminated display, different USB connectors and censors. Also the color and material definitions are completely different, even though they might look the same. Just to mention a few things.

Re: Marc Dillon left Jolla
 

This community is not homogeneous. People have various interests, and the makeup of this community has changed over time due to certain devices/platforms being discontinued and new devices/platforms arriving.

Generally, if people choose not to contribute to something it's probably because:

1. They don't have the time.
2. They would rather spend their time doing something else.

1. is often the consequence of 2. Personally, I would rather spend time maintaining my own projects than contributing to NEMO. Also, I don't have much interest in the future of mobile, because it is clearly heading away from the idea that brought me to this community in the first place: the pocket computer. I have no interest in smartphones or tablets (as in the fondleslab tablets).

Re: Marc Dillon left Jolla
 

Is somehow possible that the Aigo x86 tablet is a copy of the design of the Jolla Tablet?

The Jolla tablet somehow follows the curved design of the phone...

Maybe once they saw Jolla's design, Aigo made an alternate version which is not that "sophisticated" regarding the used components.

Re: Marc Dillon left Jolla
 

>has a significantly better fully laminated display

Sure - but that was one of the reasons for the delay. Jolla decided that they didn't like the original included display. It isn't that they designed in that 'significantly better fully laminated display' at the outset.

And different USB connectors? Oh, please that's hardly a design difference either.

Color and material definitions? Again, not a significant design difference.

The question was whether there was any evidence that the tablet was someone else's design. I'd say the evidence is pretty damning. Jolla themselves admit to at least sharing the design. And even so I suspect they were being economical with the truth.

And let's look at the practicalities. It would be much quicker and cheaper for Jolla to start with a reference design and modify it a bit than to design a tablet from scratch. Given their financing and primary focus on the OS, what do you think they would have done?