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nodevel 2015-10-25 22:47

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
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Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1486715)
Look what me found on da internet :cool:

First video involving Sailfish 2.0.0.10?

Hope you like it!

Great video (I really appreciate the effort with SSH and the triple touch device ;) )!

So basically 1.1.7 is much more optimized than both 1.1.9 and 2.0.0, with 2.0.0 being a slight improvement over 1.1.9 (so that's why people were reporting that 2.0.0 feels faster, as no-one upgraded straight from 1.1.7 to 2.0.0).

It is not really a surprise to me, as 2.0.0 is the first release where I am experiencing total freezes like in the video (for the first time in almost two years I've been using my Jolla for).

Just in the last two days, the phone completely froze twice:
  1. the only solution was pulling out the battery - not even SSH would react
  2. SSH didn't react either, but after a few minutes (while I'm writing this post), lipstick crashed by itself, so that "fixed" it

I wasn't using any Android apps (and don't have any allowed to run as background services) - only 3-4 native apps at the time. I wasn't running any video either (playing videos was a likely cause to aggressive OOM behavior in 1.1.9), so it is quite worrying.

mosen 2015-10-26 14:31

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
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Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1486735)
So basically 1.1.7 is much more optimized than both

That is the danger when users try to do videos with technical appearance :D
Turns out the graph is missleading if you compare 1.0 and 2.0 UI!

Joona Petrell some minutes ago as a comment to the video:
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In Sailfish 2.0 the compositor went through quite a big rewrite, the figures between the old and new homescreen are not really comparable. The root issue is with the frame rate display component, not in the general performance of the OS. The frame rate graph causes homescreen to constantly draw, which normally doesn't happen when the app is in the foreground. It puts the system in the composition mode where we give priority to homescreen, not the app. We should get our performance tooling in better shape, sorry.
This early morning i already got a tweet from stskeeps remarking that "frame meter makes the device render 60fps all the time and is not indicative of actual use"

Now that we know, it is still safe to compare startup times and multitasking behaviour from the video between 1.1.9 and 2.0.

mariusmssj 2015-10-26 15:04

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
I don't think the fps really matters as we saw old 1.1.7 opening/loading apps faster than 1.1.9 and 2.0

bluefoot 2015-10-26 15:22

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1486670)



Absolutely agree! It looks nice indeed [USB connection dialogue]. So much more professional.
That and the "Connect to internet" dialog.

What would be really professional is if they fixed it to work properly and consistently. It still doesn't. The UI improvement is moot whilst that remains the case.

A dress heel put paid to my N5 (RIP), so unfortunately I'm back on the Jolla for now. As predicted, the lack of OOM-killing didn't last ... it's back to doing it all the time, though still not quite as disruptive as 1.1.7 or 1.1.9

bluefoot 2015-10-26 15:24

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
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Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1486802)
I don't think the fps really matters as we saw old 1.1.7 opening/loading apps faster than 1.1.9 and 2.0

FPS generally hasn't been an issue since they replaced the renderer just under a year ago. Even whilst the phone was working nominally, you used to get huge frame drops and (screen) freezes before that. It's been smoothish since. Now the phone will freeze a lot still, but it isn't the renderer.

catbus 2015-10-29 18:15

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
So quiet here...

billranton 2015-10-29 19:01

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
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Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1487101)
So quiet here...

Well I think it's good!

szopin 2015-10-29 19:16

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
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Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1487105)
Well I think it's good!

It is, no bugs to shout/cry/be angry about (praise doesn't come as easy as outrage, then again you have that one guy reporting battery and oom issues :D this will have to do)

aegis 2015-10-29 22:29

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
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Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1487101)
So quiet here...

Either it's got less critical bugs or less critical users. ;)

pichlo 2015-10-29 22:31

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
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Originally Posted by aegis (Post 1487120)
Either it's got less critical bugs or less critical users. ;)

I love the ambiguity in your post. Did you mean less or fewer? ;)


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