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JulmaHerra 2015-10-23 06:34

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
OOM handling has definitely improved! With previous versions only thing needed for apps to disappear was surfing on the web for short while. Now I could do it for some time with no apps being killed whatsoever. Definitely an improvement from multitasking point of view. :)

peterleinchen 2015-10-23 06:51

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1486438)
You know, I am starting to suspect that Copernicus' repeated suggestions that the current Jolla's offerings are mere proofs of concept to attract licensing partners are true on more than one level. Copernicus only suggested that this is the case for the hardware, but I am beginning to suspect that some half-baked features and bugs not fixed for 2+ years are in fact deliberate.

This has become obvious to me when I was implementing my SMS patch. You see, I find it hard to believe that Jolla would put the most useless thing, the clock, in the place where the most missing thing, the character count should be, because they think a clock is a better idea. No, I suspect they put it there deliberately as a bait, waiting patiently for someone to patch it.

The same goes for any other patch of course: text select and copy&paste in the browser, any screen orientation in any app, extended call log, remorse timers, you name it. I have had a look at quite a few of them and most of them are really trivial. I find it hard to believe that Jolla developers have been totally blind to such things and incompetent to fix them for two years.

No, I am really getting inclined more and more each day that this is all part of a bigger plan. A plan to tell prospective licensing partners look, our OS is so flexible, you just do a little nip and tuck here and there and you can tweak it the way you like it. Just look at what a bunch of amateurs have done without a proper documentation, now imagine what you can do when we tell you where all the hidden Easter eggs are.

Full quote, as this is the best comprehensional review on SFOS I have ever read. :p

But if it is true what does it say about respect/delivery to the user base that support(ed) them on their way to success?
And imagine it is not true ...

mosen 2015-10-23 08:14

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1486431)
No words, just
:(:(:(

right, little bummer there...

But did someone notice that pdf documents have context search now? Very helpful for me at least.

http://mosushi.net/misc/pdf-cut.png

ste-phan 2015-10-23 08:31

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1486396)
I am Sorry pichlo, but dropping this line here feels a little insulting.
Man, yes i did frickin' 1000 system-updates in my life as everybody here did. Your implication we would report increase in performance ignoring this effect is a lame underestimation of your fellows ...

Having now three Jollas with three different versions laying around makes me want to do a comparison video as proof now.

stay tuned...

Oh I 'd love to see that video comparison bench! Scenario's with and without Android support if I may add one request.

"stay tuned..." it reminds me about a famous quote by Stskeeps, just don't remember for what exactly. :confused:

Changelog says: support for Sony Xperia Z rgb led -> has there always been such explicit mention of support for 3rd party HW?

billranton 2015-10-23 08:32

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
Mine took a long time too, and occasionally seemed to hang on the same bit of mountain for ages. It got there in the end, so I'd say keep at it.

I rebooted once when I thought it had hung, but that restarted the download so I think it did more harm than good.

pichlo 2015-10-23 08:36

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1486457)
But did someone notice that pdf documents have context search now?

Yeah, it's burried down the (very long) change list:

sailfish-office
  • [office] Add a search engine to PDFDocument objects.
  • [office] Add a toolbar to access pages and ToC.
  • [office] Create a toolbar component that appears when view is flicked up.
  • [office] Implement the interface for the search capability.
  • [office] Search inside PDF documents.
  • [office] Correct zooming, increase the maximum zoom and disable the zoom proxy.
  • [sailfish-office] Install a separate .desktop file for mime-type handling.

mosen 2015-10-23 08:45

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1486459)
"stay tuned..." it reminds me about a famous quote by Stskeeps, just don't remember for what exactly. :confused:

Just aligning my "promise" to Jollas kind of liability :P
I ran into several obstacles yesterday evening since this will be my first video comparison ever but am still burning to do the video and have at least 50% setup. so my prediction for completing and uploading it soon(tm) is sunday latest.
Thanks for your interest ste-phan, very encouraging!

aegis 2015-10-23 08:46

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1486459)
Changelog says: support for Sony Xperia Z rgb led -> has there always been such explicit mention of support for 3rd party HW?

Ooh, missed that. I've a Sony Z1c and Z3c tablet. Both have multi colour RGB LEDs like the Jolla phone. Official support would be awesome.

ste-phan 2015-10-23 08:51

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1486433)
What did I say? Someone is complaining already.

The only settings I ever (and by that, I mean ever since I had a mobile phone, i.e. in the past 20 years) wanted to change from a locked phone was to turn to silent.

Not here, on my Nokia 808 I really enjoy unlocking my phone by opening the camera application (press the HW shutter button for that)

What a struggle this is on Jolla: tap screen to bring up lock code, enter lock code, search for camera app cover or bring up grid and launch camera... A photographer's nightmare...


Even on 1.1.7.28 one still had to enter the lock code when launching camera from pulley menu.

dcaliste 2015-10-23 08:52

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 
Yeh, these features in the document application have been discussed on TJC: https://together.jolla.com/question/...t-application/

The document application is open source, so one can add features easily, and Jolla, especially for this application, is playing the Open Source game very well : accepting pull request, comprehensive reviews from sailors before accepting patches… You can see from Github, that there are new other patches recently included that will arrive in a later release:
  • internal PDF goto link working ;
  • remember the last page position for each document ;
  • shape of the pages for PDF when not rendered yet.


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