Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

I thought it was pain to check time on V1.0 as it always had to be looked up seaparately, as battery level, network quality and time were mostlly hidden.

As for accessing those shortcuts, the shortest route is swipe left, up, click, swipe right and tap app cover. However, it's also a question of which features should be available the most - I rarely need that shortcut-menu for anything else than toggling the bluetooth as other functions are almost never needed (maybe except Internet sharing, which is also rarely used). However, access to grid is quite often used and it's more easily available in v2.0, so like everything with UI design, it's a trade off. Get one, lose one.

IMO the shortcut-menu should also be available from app cover-screen, so you don't always have to go to events to access it. Another thing to ease things (and reduce the need for shortcut menu altogether) would be to extend the ambience-functionality to include more settings than just background image, colors and sounds. Then you could create your most use cases into ambiences that can be changed almost instantly from just about everywhere. It would add functionality without sacrificing consistency. A win-win IMO.

edit: it has already been suggested in TMO: https://together.jolla.com/question/...-for-ambience/

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

YTPlayer seems to crash when it tries to draw the cover once the "cover visibled" signal is received, specially while playing a video in the background (my main use case with YTPlayer :) ). I've not been able to diagnose it yet but it does not look like an OoM situation (though on the UI it looks like one now! :P)

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

There's no "Server settings" option in the Cal* accounts. That is the problem. The only thing you can do is 'Update Sign-in credentials'.

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Do you not "peek"? I use that feature all the time, and it hasn't changed since v1.X - IMO it's one of the nicest small features of SFOS that really makes it stand out.

Most of the time I'm using the phone I'm scrolling through content (in a browser, or an app like SailHN/Quickddit/Tidings) so my thumb is on the screen anyway.

I don't need the status indicators all the time and prefer to use the whole screen for content I'm reading, "peeking" lets me see that info quickly when I need it and at the same time reinforces the fact that apps run in the background.

Totally different to Android where apps get put in deep freeze as soon as they are off screen (with a few exceptions via a specific API).

Anyway, I seem to be one of the few people who actually likes SFOS and the recent UI changes. 1.1.9 was a great improvement with events view and 2.0 seals the deal for me, I always felt a quick settings drawer was missing and now we have one (quite flexible too!).

Now I'm hoping Jolla can roll out some under the bonnet improvements to XMPP and other bits without people moaning about the "lack of progress" (normally judged on visible UI changes).

BTW, I'm one of the peopld who doesn't use Alien Dalvik, but can we please stop the moaning about Jolla "spending all their time on Android stuff". I don't think it's true (hint: number of words in changelog doesn't necessarily correlate with development time).

CalDAV is working OK for me at the moment but I'll be interested to see what happens this weekend when the clocks go back 1h in the UK. My server is in the same timezone so hopefully I'll be fine!

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Says the guy who picks up any bug to claim jolla is doomed, failure all over...

psychosemitic, no decrease here

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Add brightness shortcut to the screen you left two swipes ago can do it with single press, largely diminishes the diminishing.

Slowness/awfulness/ease-of-useness is totally psychosemantic, glad you found your phone at last

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Latest commit cccd449 24 days ago
tad worrying

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Has anyone noticed the new Clock cover? Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant!

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

This is the world of Open Source. If you've got time to post entries here worrying about the code, then you've got time to contribute to it! :)

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Yeah, just raised an issue: too low activity

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Hmm. So, why don't you pick up that bug report and do something about it, then? Write some code! :)

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Sure, just opened account to mark it as 'under investigation', activity is also boosted, all statistics now show progress, lets hope someone who knows how to code the masses picks this up.

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Ah, so in other words, you now have nothing to complain about. ;)

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Low activity? :P

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

It'll be just as active as there are people interested and contributing to it. If you're interested, contribute! If you don't want to contribute, then don't complain that nobody else is contributing...

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

I wasn't, I am aware of the illusion of open-source that heals all problems as suddenly thousands of people work for you for free, no backdoors, no bugs, no, open source heals all wounds for free.
Well, in 24 days noone reported even a typo, your thousands for free

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

i have discovered only right now the new toggles feature, playing with settings..that is nice

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

strange, i had this^ for about 2 months now, i thought it was some patch i enabled :)

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

uhm? it is a patch job? not system upgrade?

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

that is why i cant afford why for someone it is already (at this point) matter of life or death

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

now i think it's from the system update, but some weeks ago i thought it was a patch

i'm not sure why it was on my system weeks ago, i think i did some dpgk or apt update stuff or so :)

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

leinad u are referring to action just like search on web,connect to internet, that actually have been abilited with a patch, taking it from tablet i suppose.. i am referring instead to new toggles above.

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

what do u mean? ps: in my previous statement i would have said "cant afford" not "can"

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Gotcha! No idea really, we had foss enthusiasts through all the way, most didn't choose foss or death stance

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

i was saying that i agree with your concern about results that can be expected from open-source. at the same time i was showing my disappointing when someone says opensourcing silica would change a lot of things

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

yay, video is shot :D

I made some test cases and finally succeded in manipulating them in an ultra convenient way to disproof @pichlo!

Naaaah, kidding!
I was a little blinded in my judgement by a new feature that is seen in the video. Upstarting native apps now shows the homescreen with "loading indicator" much quicker than before giving the impression of faster action. But the actual loading time of the apps is quite equal!

How i know? Well i fell in the well of "ClusterSSH" wich gave me the power to execute Sailfish app starts on three different devices simultaniously :cool:

That was after giving up on my "three finger capacative screen pen" project whichs aftermath you will also witness in the video.

It will absolutely take until sunday evening to edit the video since my daughter ruined the audio show, but i am totally happy to confirm:

stay tuned :D

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

?

https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/branches

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

http://i.imgur.com/iDFFLgJ.png

ok, 17, feel better now

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

actions and toggles came at the same time for me... some weeks ago can't say exactly

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Er, what? If you want thousands of coders working full time for you, you should be using Apple or Google products. The advantage of Open Source is not that there are more man-hours going into the project; the advantage is that you, yourself, have access to the code.

You think that Open Source means thousands of people work for you for free? Man, you really do have some strange illusions. :) Open Source means that thousands of people can work on this code for themselves. If their work is pleasing to you, that's great, but you've got no room to complain if you aren't doing any work yourself.

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

No! I want that uber-shield that open sourcing gives against hacking and spying, it's the only solution. Oh wait, there just recently was audit of open source solution that found nothing: TrueCrypt

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

I'm not sure why anyone should use TrueCrypt over tried-and-widely-used encryption solutions such as LUKS. Especially given the overall weird governance of the project, weird custom license and questionable demise of the original developers.

I guess working with existing volumes and cross platform support is about the only applicable excuse, but even that should be moot once the various cross platform TrueCrypt replacements mature enough.

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

They came with this or this patch. Now they are there by default.

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Oh man, if I had a penny for every time I hear that "argument". If you do not co tribute, do not dare to point out faults. Put up or shut up. This is exactly the kind of arrogance that is the reason Open Source will never make a hole in the world.

Closer to home, Sailfish Browser may be Open Source but it is also a product. I am also a programmer. I drive an hour to get to work, then spend 9 hours working my arse off, then another hour driving back. I spend some of the money I get from that activity to purchase a product. I expect that product to work, I do not want to spend another 9 hours patching it, even though I may have the capability.

There are certain standards my superiors expect from my work. I have every right to expect similar standards from from other people's work, Open Source or not.

And before you pounce on me, I have contributed to some Open Source projects. I even got punished for that, when I was unemployed and the Job Centre stopped my dole payments because they considered that contribution work, ergo income. But the last thing I would tell to the users of my code finding bugs in it is, "fsck you, the code is there, fix it yourself!"

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

yes but there was also possibility to set toogles like utility, android support, locking orientation etc?

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

you can set them in settings -> events

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

First thing in Saimaa that got "wow that looks nice" effect for me was new interface that comes up when you connect your phone to PC

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

I am too lazy to check myself now. Is USB tethering enabled in the UI. I guess not?

Re: Sailfish 2.0.0 Saimaa
 

Install new package interface also changed (but only in color:)