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IMHO the video is a fake. They just show Sailfish when the camera is frontal to the device and it looks like the Jolla or Jolla C device. You just once see the device from the back (animated?).

Smells like Scam as it always has.

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True, but still: Something exiting going on:
On their facebook page they PROMISE to deliver within THREE WEEKS and to send out all the relevant information TODAY. :p

According to the reviewjolla page on TRI that would be the 9th postpone shared.
I am really curious on how many postpones will still follow :D

BTW: Has anyone else by any chance seen the videos on bending tests of the Turing Phone. They were on Facebook yesterday, but I could not watch them (no facebook account) and today they seem to be gone

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It does not look like the jolla c, but you are right with jolla 1 having same camera/speaker location.
Its a perfect match, who would have thought :rolleyes:

http://mosushi.net/misc/turing_c.png

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it most definitely is not Jolla 1 also.
turing phone with android
http://icdn5.digitaltrends.com/image...-1500x1000.jpg
frontal image with sailfish
http://i63.tinypic.com/29oh6w5.jpg

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Or just a hoax -- I still have no idea who that presenter is or where and how he got a working Turing Phone running Sailfish. He refers to techcrunch, but I don't find that video or anything recent about TRI on their website.

I'm willing to allow that I might be completely out of touch. I don't check techcrunch regularly, and TRI seems to do their communication through facebook -- a strange choice given their talk of security (and one infer's, privacy) -- and I've blocked everything facebook that I can here.

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erm...what? if that was said then this sounds like a right scam haha.

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But,but phone has been live in International SailfishOS community meeting! Community members have hold it in their hands :) So there exists couple phones, maybe?

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Soon???
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/06...y-months-late/

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They will start shipping on July 12th
http://us11.campaign-archive1.com/?u...e&e=c26e35a1b7

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And the link to the video that is in their email.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Dn...ature=youtu.be

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I am convinced.
Can not wait to order my Turing Phone again now that it is confirmed.

In happy anticipation, i built myself a Turing OH to test if my trousers can handle the sharp corners of a high end metal sailfish device.
Wifi reception is actually quite good, 3g is dropping a bit.

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To me this start to look like a real thing.
https://youtu.be/E7wR_FrSA8s?t=826

New androidpolice article, still dripping dubious-cynicism. Might let it dry a bit before reading.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/06...luation-model/

choice quote:

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I have to agree with them as I think it's absolutely nonsensical to give customers a phone and then swap it for the same phone with a different chipset few months later.
Either the first iteration is not going to work that well and then it's better to have your customers wait for a little longer, rather than having subpar devices on the market potentially damaging your brand (provided you had a valuable one), or the first iteration is going to work well and then there's no need to upgrade in such a short time frame in the first place.

Also, considering Turing's price, their customers might get a hint that the margin is so high that it's still profitable for the company to make two phones instead of one, which doesn't send a good message either.

Of course, this is all valid only if we assume it's not vaporware ;)

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maybe that one will have USB port and headphone jack :D

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Holy **** ... if anyone is stupid enough to fall for this, then they deserve everything they (don't) get.

That's hilarious.

I'm incredulous that Jolla are supporting and enabling these people ... or wait, I'm not in the least.

The 'evaluation' unit or the 'eventual' unit? Cause if it's the first one (and maybe only one) there's a bazillion snapdragon 801 phones available, just waiting to get a semi custom case slapped on - for 'evaluation purposes'. What with unobtainium.being so hard to work with and all...

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Define "support" - if money, do you have any source saying that Jolla is giving them money? if selling SFOS licenses, I don't think that Jolla should deny them from that right - if anything, they should be happy they're selling. I am making a massive effort to avoid making a parallel with real life on the latter by the way.

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The delusional nature of many on this forum is really quite spectacular.

That's all I have to say.

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Don't feed the troll, ggabriel.

That's all I have to say :)

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Really? Just because you're happy Jolla are getting money in, you don't mind where it's coming from?

There's serious concern from many regarding some of Jolla's business partners including Turing. They may not have the option to be choosy but they have to be careful they don't suffer damage to their reputation, such as it now is, by association.

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Honestly, I hope this comes out.

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Damage by association is a serious threat. Which is why Jolla is treading carefully and not talking about Turing too much. I am with ggabriel on this, I see very little support for Turing by Jolla.

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So, "support" hasn't been defined yet.

Damage by association is something that you can't estimate - tell me how many failed Android devices have damaged Google by association - there are some failed crowd funded projects out there and where is the glass again?

OTOH, it's valuable for Jolla to be considering/analysing/developing for new use cases. Each partner, successful or not, will bring knowledge and features to SFOS.

I wouldn't say "no" if due diligence is being done. That said, I didn't get a Turing phone but I'll be interested if they make it.

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Not taking "sides", but damaging a behemoth like Google is NOTHING like damaging an already damaged little (sail)fish like Jolla. It doesn't take much to make something with a not great reputation look worse.

And now for something completely different, a (breathlessly) positive take on the Turing phone :

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2016/0...e-and-kicking/

For some reason, the term ninjas appears in the article. Honestly not sure if author is serious...

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They keep delaying it so I will believe it when I see it.

Another online article. This one claims ro have interviewed Steve Chao, but never actuall.quotes him . . .

Anyway, the link:
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobile...specs-hardware

BTW, on a personal.note I'd love to see something good come of this product. But even if total.vaporware, I.still learned the word 'Wyvern'*. And they say learning is never wasted.

*Although I'm several kinds of nerd, I'm not a heraldry nerd. Everything I.know about the subject.comes from the novel.'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' and the movie of the same name.

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What I am wondering is if the SailfishOS they are running will have more advanced security features than the Jolla. For example, an encrypted file system, or some track-and-protect feature.

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Hey, who can give you more than they can promise.

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I wonder if the lack of security features and options in Jolla Sailfish OS is the reason why it takes so long for 3rd party phone makers to release a public Sailfish phone.

Whatever happened to Sailfish "secure" that ought to have been Sailfish "standard" by now?

https://techcrunch.com/2015/03/02/jo...e-os/?ncid=rss

Maybe SSH knows?

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No, it was a genuine attempt from both parties as you can read from a ReviewSailfishOS interview with Mika Lauhde, Vice President at SSH.

Propably cut or put on ice during jollas "winter braindrain".

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In the attributed source article (Android Police) the tone is a bit different, with the story beginning like this:

:)

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Security via obscurity perhaps?

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As a worthy alternative to security via fading into a gigantic mass of Android users. :D

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Well, don't bother to look for "Made in Finland" and FCC&CE stamps in first evaluation devices:

http://suomimobiili.fi/turing-phonej...inakaan-viela/

* First shipped phones will be manufactured in China.
* Snapdragon 820 version of the phone will get FCC&CE approvals, evaluation version won't.

Edit: And only 128GB version will be available, 16GB and 64GB version have been scrapped according to the article.

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At least that makes sense since 128G should nowdays be the absolute minimum allowed in any device be it a featurephone, smartwatch or anything else more sophisticated...

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why do you say that, I have a 32GB nexus 5, and the only reason I use half that is because I have 5 ROMS running in multirom for varying reasons, otherwise its just a sliver.