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sarcasm [sahr-kaz-uh m] n.

1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark:
   a review full of sarcasms.

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Is this surprise that they are not made in Finland? They said in March that first batch is made in China:

http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/a1457146835509

Ensimmäisen erän puhelimet on tehty Kiinassa, mutta Chaon mukaan Kiina ei sovi kalliin turvapuhelimen valmistusmaaksi. Sen takia yritys on valinnut Salon valmistuspaikaksi.

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Yes, it is partly sarcasm but there is a bitter truth in there!

When I think back several years, I had N9 as my primary mobile device and it had 64GB of storage. (granted, the partitioning scheme was a real waste but that was easy to fix...)

That was top-of-the-line device in 2011, that's five years ago!
When you take Moore's law into account it means that the amount of top-of-the-line devices today should be around 2^(5*12/18) which comes to just under 10 times, namely 640GB!

If the top-of-the-line devices should have around half TB storage about now it stands to reason even the tiniest devices should have at least 128GB, right?

Please check my logic, it is absolutely watertight.

This stands to reason especially with Nexus line of devices since there is not even a SD card you could use as memory extension.

It is absolutely unforgiveable that manufacturers release devices with next to no storage. It is a disgrace!

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since someone added the tags here I have been called upon to follow this scam until:

Tags are removed.
This proves to be a scam.
This proves to be real.

Or whichever comes first.

You live in a age with almost unlimited storage and constant network access :D don't be so bitter.

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IF this comment was meant for me regarding the amount of memory in today's devices, well in your dreams baby... :eek:

In theory you could have all your stuff on a server attached to the network 24/7 (and I do, actually) but I still like to have locally cached storage on the device. The connectivity is way too spurious and slow when you are on the move or camping in the deep woods.

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Not to forget expensive. Yes I know there are "cheap" data packages. Dave999 him/herself was once boasting with some €30 a month. €30 is what I spend on calls, messages and data in about 6 months. All of that is new content, like news or this forum. Stuff that I have to download again and again because it changes all the time. Stuff that is mine and does not change - like my music collection, for example - I find hard to justify accessing from "the cloud", whatever that is.

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I agree with your reasoning. However it is not because we can that it makes sense in all cases.

Audio quality has not evolved much since the compact disk in the 1980's, not because we cannot, but because it wouldn't change a thing to the user.
About storage, for people that don't store videos, 16 or 32GB can fit quite well. Audio and photo files have not grown much in size in the last years, so storage for those don't need to follow a moore law growth.
For videos, it still grows a lot (especially with 4K and/or 60/120 fps modes), and for those use cases 640GB would indeed not be too much.

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To further add, Moore's law applies to "the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit" in the strict sense, and to "computing power" in the looser sense.

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Ssshhh... I want them to actually deliver 640gb phones.

Actually thanks for pointing that out.

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It was directed in the general direction of all(except Gerbick OFC)

ouh deep woods :D working from there is far from ideal...

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I don't have that many videos, but my music collection is 51GB. That didn't even fit in N9 let alone the devices offered to public today...

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Exactly. Or more generally it's not the number of transistors but the density of features that can be packed to an area of silicon.

And can you guess how flash memory is made... :D

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From plastic, metal and magic smoke.

But anyway, 4 days till the July 12 ship date of the Turing phone, or the Turing phone evaluation unit, or whatever. We're running out of days to announce another delay. Will it ship? More importantly, if it does, is anyone following TMO an early contributor (and willing to admit it) who can confirm if they get a shipping notification next week? And if they receive it, write it up here?

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No shipping notification sent...Google would have found it.

This phone is fake until it's real so consider it to be fake.

Delay time ahead. Get another device while waiting.

Anyone think it will launch the 12th...After all, it would be cool...

Scam ahead...

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Let's see if another delay will be announced ...

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Official, now, see the archived for posterity version at:
https://archive.is/4dHl4

Turing Robotic Industries Ships Turing Phone™

First liquid-metal smartphone to reach customers starting July 12th

SALO, Finland, July 12, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- TRI (Turing Robotic Industries), the trustworthy mobile device company, today shipped the world's first liquid-metal smartphones. The Turing Cardinal, Pharaoh, Beowulf, Dark Wyvern, and DW Glaedr phones are in transit and will reach customers throughout July.

>snip<

Full specs on the Turing Phone are available at www.turingphone.com

About TRI
>snip<
. Turing Robotic Industries is based in Salo, Finland with offices in San Francisco, California and Shenzhen, China.
Learn more at www.turingroboticindustries.com



SOURCE: Turing Robotic Industries


=============================================

Cue recording equipment for wailing and gnashing of teeth:

https://www.facebook.com/turingroboticindustries/




This is turning into an epic adventure in how to
continuously extract streams of money
from every imaginable source in the playbook
(investors + consumers + government + who else ?)
and drag it out over a timespan measured in months

This guy is a new global expert on something,
but proper spelling eludes me - dwindling, perhaps?
Nokia should hire him to revive the corporate image.

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Ahh, nice!
I am sure we will see more individually selected erm, random users excavating and indepently reviewing the sh*t out of theyr device now.
Maybe one of the iss astronauts is among the first preorders and will do a droptest from orbit?

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Good news, still dont Trust anything related to sail until info comes from endusers. Should popup early next week IF true.

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are the SD 820 / 128GB specs true?

almost a shame, as that will make the device Samsung Galaxy S7 style expensive.

i'd have been much happier with a mid-range 14nm SD 816 / 64gb, if the price could have been ~£450 rather than ~£650.

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Well I guess they have to justify the high price tag somehow.

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Just got this email.

http://us11.campaign-archive1.com/?u...7&e=bbf81b969d

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Brilliant! That is one peace of terminator phone!

Are you sure the boxes isn't empty?

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Ehm... Since Turing licenses SailfishOS from Jolla, I would have thought that the licenser has some control over the system shipped to customers. So either Jolla did not think about this when signing the contract, or Turing just didn't care to adhere to it... Either way, I don't think it's good for Jolla's PR to allow an unfinished software to be shipped to someone else's unsuspecting customers.

The Turing adventure is IMHO a risk on its own, but now I can already imagine the first reviews about SailfishOS not being ready for production. They even label it as Alpha for crying out loud!

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Jolla need to get hw out in the market...something is better than nothing.

Are you saying Jolla is not in the loop?

Filled with chocolate, Dave. Sweet delicious chocolate.

But phone or chocolate, we all wanna see some user pics whenever these boxes show up.

Of all the justifications for a high price, 'included more parts' is one of the better ones. Me, I'd rather the money go for more camera and lens than more flash, but either way would be hard sell to convince the spouse I need a phone in that price range when I have two working phones now. :(

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As I have said before I will believe it when I see it.

Oh boy a chocolate phone..........YUM! :D

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Simple: accidentally throw one out the window

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Just don't forget to open the window before. It will look very suspicious if the window is also broken.

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You see THAT woman? if it was liquidglassium we would only have to buy a phone, let me invest some in the freaking solar roadways while we're at it

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Well, I'm 60 years old, I've seen all sorts of women. ;)

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I guess terminator 2 was were you seen liquid morphium woman, it's a reality now(or soon^tm), just a little more

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Terminator 2 is nothing but a history lesson. You should meet my wife... one second a madonna, the next a dragon.

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Don't worry guys! I actually have permission and clearance from the highest court. I may say, think and write whatever I want. ;)

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Phew, she's a keeper

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http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/xkcd_phone_4.png

http://xkcd.com/1707/

Piss-take of Turing.

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TuringPhone in the wild!

https://twitter.com/LavishVintage/st...71187399430144

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It's still fake though because bluefoot doesn't have one.

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That's at least four, then. The steamroller one, the youtube one, the one that peeked out at the Jolla event one and this one.

Keep that news coming, I (very reservedly) hope this is a real thing beyond this batch of prototypes or whatever they're calling them. Last story I saw online was unfortunately just a French rehashing of the Phone Arena article.

Oh, and after reading up on the colors, I think I want mine in Sable Basilisk. Dark Wyvern just sounds too flashy.

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Croco style package? - seriously :rolleyes:

The whole design is a bit 70s/80s scifi isn't it - the should have done some product placement in the new Star Trek movie :D or maybe they did in the coming Netflix series :cool:

Could even ask Billy Idol or Mötley Crüe for promotion ...