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chenliangchen 2016-02-29 11:38

Buying Intex Aqua Fish in EU
 
This thread specifically talks about getting the device in EU...

According to this, the device will be available on 25th Apr in India. Since they won't sell directly to EU and still no confirmation on official collaboration with Fairphone, we need to find ways to get it in EU.

Will any member here help shipping them (I personally wouldn't mind paying a bit of commission.) from India or there are any website/service which let EU customers purchasing from India?


(Hope this does not become another Tablet thread, at least it looks real now.)

m4r0v3r 2016-02-29 12:15

Re: Buying Intex Aqua Fish in EU
 
It seems the extra ram would definitely help.

jimmy neutron 2016-02-29 12:59

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maybe start a petition (poll) or write them a letter/email... So they can see how many people are interested in the intexphone... I hope they know we exist (maemo.org) :D... And hope that they know they can definitely make some cash in Europe... We are pretty much the only guys who would like to have a intexphone...

Kind Regards J.Neutron

llelectronics 2016-02-29 13:07

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I think the main problem is that they need to aquire a license when they want to sell the devices in europe aswell.
Or get some certifications or so.

So the only thing would be inofficially import those devices. I am not sure how to do that though. Buying them from snapdeal seems to be not possible outside from India.

chenliangchen 2016-02-29 13:38

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Officially selling the device in EU does need to be certified similar to what FCC does in US. Intex may have done them already, we are not sure yet.

Unofficial import seem to be easier at this stage, if we can find reliable international seller inside india. (eBay?)

juiceme 2016-02-29 14:26

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Might also be that the device is localized to Indian market with built-in partnering content which is the actual package-to-be-sold-to-customers so that the device is just a vehicle to deliver the service&adverisement package.

If that is the case they of course have no incentive to sell to europe.

TMavica 2016-02-29 14:38

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Ready fly to india to buy, but can I buy in shop?

mikecomputing 2016-02-29 20:26

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Why bother? Get a fair phone if you are so desperate for a new phone. Atleast it works in EU.

LouisDK 2016-02-29 20:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1500185)
Why bother? Get a fair phone if you are so desperate for a new phone. Atleast it works in EU.

The Fairphone 2 does only support a community port of Sailfish (at least for now) which lacks things like Android and Exchange support.

Furthermore it has been stated that the Intex Aqua Fish phone does support EU brands.

mosen 2016-02-29 21:11

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Just curious, what's the price for the aqua fish including transfer to your country you hope for or estimate?

I would buy if its around 150€ including tax.
My limit is 200€ total including shipment, concidering i do not really need it and would have to pull the NO MA'AM card to my wife if it exceeds my hobby budget for march :p

Reading the FP2 has already been delivered to germany starting last week already made februarys budget explode lastminute.

fravaccaro 2016-02-29 23:18

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Let's try to do something about this :)

https://www.change.org/p/bring-intex...fish-in-europe

chenliangchen 2016-02-29 23:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1500185)
Why bother? Get a fair phone if you are so desperate for a new phone. Atleast it works in EU.

I have to have dalvik support, not everything and every service supports web page. Also I need HERE and MS exchange as well. If Fairphone doesn't go official, Intex is the only choice at the moment. So I do bother.

padmaraj.ravi 2016-03-01 04:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1500157)
Ready fly to india to buy, but can I buy in shop?

Intex usually sells their phone in shop as well, But not all models. Dont know if aqua fish will be sold in shop. Unofficial imports might work. You will need to register in snap deal with an indian address, pay for it and then have some helping members ship it to you. I could help in shipping , but not large numbers though :( Btw you can keep the commissions, just refund my shipping fees :) But I can only help some , not 10s and 20s :(

TMavica 2016-03-01 09:29

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How about if I want to buy 20s devices, the shop can sell to me? because I not indian, and also can I pick so many mobile , pass through the security of india?

chenliangchen 2016-03-01 10:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1500236)
How about if I want to buy 20s devices, the shop can sell to me? because I not indian, and also can I pick so many mobile , pass through the security of india?

You shouldn't have any problem buying them or taking out of India, but bring them in in Hong Kong or other region/country will be difficult as it's quite obvious custom tax has to be declared, it's way exceeded personal use.

TMavica 2016-03-01 11:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1500240)
You shouldn't have any problem buying them or taking out of India, but bring them in in Hong Kong or other region/country will be difficult as it's quite obvious custom tax has to be declared, it's way exceeded personal use.

In Hong Kong,the security is not too secure, lol.
I can use a hand carry rather than suitcase is better, if I use a suitcase, it is too obviouly

The most important thing is not this, the most important is I can able buy the device in a shop, thats is my most concern

padmaraj.ravi 2016-03-01 15:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1500236)
How about if I want to buy 20s devices, the shop can sell to me? because I not indian, and also can I pick so many mobile , pass through the security of india?

If the phone is being sold only through Snapdeal that might be difficult , since they usually have a cap on number of devices (Not only phones ,any product for that matter.) ordered from same id. Otherwise people will create their own alternate channels during discount sales. You can always create multiple ids with multiple address and order 20s though.

TMavica 2016-03-01 16:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by padmaraj.ravi (Post 1500273)
If the phone is being sold only through Snapdeal that might be difficult , since they usually have a cap on number of devices (Not only phones ,any product for that matter.) ordered from same id. Otherwise people will create their own alternate channels during discount sales. You can always create multiple ids with multiple address and order 20s though.

Thats mean I need find a guy in india and help me to pick?

mrsellout 2016-03-01 16:47

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There are a few results on Google for parcel forwarding agents from India, has anyone used one before?

padmaraj.ravi 2016-03-01 17:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1500275)
Thats mean I need find a guy in india and help me to pick?

You might have to find someone to pick, unless Intex decides to sell it through shops as well like they do with some of their popular android phones. I am yet to find a shop which sells the full range of Intex phones. Their main channel is online. Only some popular models are found in shops .

mikecomputing 2016-03-01 18:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1500208)
I have to have dalvik support, not everything and every service supports web page. Also I need HERE and MS exchange as well. If Fairphone doesn't go official, Intex is the only choice at the moment. So I do bother.

I don't cause my Jolla still works why the heck should I buy a new device just because someone announce a new phone.

The thing is I am so sick of consuming world. We are all stupid *****s in western countrys :mad:

Got so sick when I saw yet another documentary yesterday how the banks own us cause they want us to consume as hell so 1% of the people gets even more reach asholes when the most poor people doesnt even have money to buy food :mad:

And in the same time we angry on the poor people outside the shops when we should instead be more angry at the bank people :mad:

Atleast Fair phone could be one of those companies that do think different in the future. We cant continue consuming like crazy asholes. We are not more happy just because we get new damn toys every month!

Because the thing is we don't need a new mobile every damn year. As long as my Jolla works I will use it and next time I go Fair phone and just hope it will have support for SFOS.

JulmaHerra 2016-03-01 20:48

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I have doubts about my Jolla lasting very long, screen lamination has already been showing signs of detaching. Fairphone might do it, I like the idea. What I don't like is the thickness of over 1 cm and overall big size of the device. Too bad there doesn't seem to be compact high end phones except iPhones these days.

szopin 2016-03-01 21:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1500298)
I don't cause my Jolla still works why the heck should I buy a new device just because someone announce a new phone.

The thing is I am so sick of consuming world. We are all stupid *****s in western countrys :mad:

Got so sick when I saw yet another documentary yesterday how the banks own us cause they want us to consume as hell so 1% of the people gets even more reach asholes when the most poor people doesnt even have money to buy food :mad:

And in the same time we angry on the poor people outside the shops when we should instead be more angry at the bank people :mad:

Atleast Fair phone could be one of those companies that do think different in the future. We cant continue consuming like crazy asholes. We are not more happy just because we get new damn toys every month!

Because the thing is we don't need a new mobile every damn year. As long as my Jolla works I will use it and next time I go Fair phone and just hope it will have support for SFOS.

Look, warranty is over, it's 2016 people! People might worry about longevity of the phone with company almost bankrupt just before the warranty ran out, now that it has jolla is feeling better, users worse. We will not solve world hunger by not ordering an intex phone to possibly have as a backup, I wish we did, but really unlikely

szopin 2016-03-01 21:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JulmaHerra (Post 1500309)
I have doubts about my Jolla lasting very long, screen lamination has already been showing signs of detaching. Fairphone might do it, I like the idea. What I don't like is the thickness of over 1 cm and overall big size of the device. Too bad there doesn't seem to be compact high end phones except iPhones these days.

1cm? wow, hope they hide a hw keyboard and VR headset in there, if they get full support might skip intex, n900 was also fairly broad-shouldered

mosen 2016-03-01 21:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1500298)
I don't cause my Jolla still works why the heck should I buy a new device just because someone announce a new phone.

Well ranted.
Only the 2 Gig Memory and brighter screen are tempting as hell, concidering original Jollas oom handling and unreadability in sunlight.
I sincerly hope modular phone design will have "killer features" over nowadays throwaway phones, so every maker has to adopt one day.
Fairphone becoming a financial success would be so cool.

juiceme 2016-03-01 21:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1500317)
Quote:

Originally Posted by JulmaHerra (Post 1500309)
I have doubts about my Jolla lasting very long, screen lamination has already been showing signs of detaching. Fairphone might do it, I like the idea. What I don't like is the thickness of over 1 cm and overall big size of the device. Too bad there doesn't seem to be compact high end phones except iPhones these days.

1cm? wow, hope they hide a hw keyboard and VR headset in there, if they get full support might skip intex, n900 was also fairly broad-shouldered

Actually that is not very far off the mark. IIRC Fairphone also has TOH-type pogo pins or some connector on the backcover that enables extension HW like a HWKBD to be connected...

mrsellout 2016-03-01 22:04

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Yep, and Dirk is already on the case...
https://github.com/dirkvl/FairPhone
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcJNt42VIAAAn_v.jpg
https://twitter.com/dirkvanleersum/s...11363661799425
https://twitter.com/dirkvanleersum/s...48205983092738

kinggo 2016-03-01 22:10

Re: Buying Intex Aqua Fish in EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1500317)
1cm? wow, hope they hide a hw keyboard and VR headset in there, if they get full support might skip intex, n900 was also fairly broad-shouldered

it's just 1mm thicker than jolla, not that it makes much of a difference.

Micha1982 2016-03-01 23:44

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Wohoo, nice price...im am really thinking of buying one if possible....!

My N900 seems to getting old...more and more homepages does not work correct, updates are getting more and more rare...not to talk about the bad/half ports or lack of modern software...I hope the situation on Sailfish is better, I am going to find out more about Sailfish the next days.

Anyhow, the price under 100€ looks REALLY interesting....at the end I think it should be under 150 with taxes and importing at all...hopefully.

Great news.........

mikelima 2016-03-02 09:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1500317)
1cm? wow, hope they hide a hw keyboard and VR headset in there, if they get full support might skip intex, n900 was also fairly broad-shouldered

I do not get this fetish about thin phones. There is a point where going slimmer does not get users any advantage, and it has quite a few disadvantages:
* less volume for the battery, you will need to keep recharging the phone every day
* less space for optics in the camera, pictures will look worse than they could
* the phone assembly will be less rigid, welcome bent devices and cracked screens

Everybody I know who bought these thin large phones, ended up putting them in silicone sleeves or cases, anyway...

MikeHG 2016-03-02 09:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikelima (Post 1500363)
I do not get this fetish about thin phones. ...

True that. Also, if my Jolla+TOHKB falls out of my pocket, little danger of not realising... :p

JulmaHerra 2016-03-02 09:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikelima (Post 1500363)
I do not get this fetish about thin phones. There is a point where going slimmer does not get users any advantage, and it has quite a few disadvantages:
* less volume for the battery, you will need to keep recharging the phone every day
* less space for optics in the camera, pictures will look worse than they could
* the phone assembly will be less rigid, welcome bent devices and cracked screens

Everybody I know who bought these thin large phones, ended up putting them in silicone sleeves or cases, anyway...

It' about personal preference and how you carry your device. I usually carry it in my pocket without protective covers or anything that makes it bulkier and it's much more comfortable and easy if it's thinner. If it has huge screen, it's annoying to use with one hand and not that practical in car either. If it has both huge screen and considerable thickness, it's not practical any more for me.

You are right that squeezing everything in smaller and thinner frame is harder, but it can be done and end result is really good if done correctly - don't you find it amusing that iPhone 6S has smaller battery than most of it's android rivals, but still it outperforms them in both battery life AND raw performance? Not to mention camera performance which is also good despite the thin design. Of course, it's harder to do if you try to sell cheap and still make a margin.

chenliangchen 2016-03-02 10:12

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Some interesting unbox pictures.

The thickness has no problem at all. I doubt with the idea of "the thinner the better", guess it was invented by apple for brainwashing fanboys. To me, if it's below 13-15 mm, the thinner the worse. N950's thickness is about perfect.

iBoys carries a portable charger or "pregnant" battery case and are proud that the phone is 2mm thinner than average. Who cares?

mikelima 2016-03-02 10:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1500369)
Some interesting unbox pictures.

The thickness has no problem at all. I doubt with the idea of "the thinner the better", guess it was invented by apple for brainwashing fanboys. To me, if it's below 13-15 mm, the thinner the worse. N950's thickness is about perfect.

iBoys carries a portable charger or "pregnant" battery case and are proud that the phone is 2mm thinner than average. Who cares?

Exactly. The N950 form factor is about the best compromise for a phone, IMHO. Too bad you cannot find anywhere anymore.

Promo 2016-03-02 10:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1500369)
Some interesting unbox pictures.

The thickness has no problem at all. I doubt with the idea of "the thinner the better", guess it was invented by apple for brainwashing fanboys. To me, if it's below 13-15 mm, the thinner the worse. N950's thickness is about perfect.

iBoys carries a portable charger or "pregnant" battery case and are proud that the phone is 2mm thinner than average. Who cares?

It seems Intex is still using old UI images of SailfishOS pre 2.0 for their products and on the website. Or are the 4 permanent visible quick launch icons coming back to the homescreen in 2.0.2?

http://img.91mobiles.com/articles/wp...s-29_thumb.jpg

chenliangchen 2016-03-02 10:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Promo (Post 1500379)
It seems Intex is still using old UI images of SailfishOS pre 2.0 for their products and on the website. Or are the 4 permanent visible quick launch icons coming back to the homescreen in 2.0.2?

http://img.91mobiles.com/articles/wp...s-29_thumb.jpg

Likely they use pre-2.0 screenshot on the box, as seen in device running pictures, those quick shortcuts are gone...

They can't see the difference between SFOS 1 and 2 themselves perhaps, at least not for the guys design package.

mosen 2016-03-04 22:30

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Just a heads up,
@sifartech on TJC started an initiative to send Aqua Fishys abroad!
Apparently he has some experience with using escrow, a mediated payment service and is evaluating how to buy and send out phones technically.
Already 28 people interested to participate.

elastic 2016-03-09 20:07

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sailfish-smartphone-to-launch-in-russia-this-year

Yeum 2016-03-13 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1500669)
Just a heads up,
@sifartech on TJC started an initiative to send Aqua Fishys abroad!
Apparently he has some experience with using escrow, a mediated payment service and is evaluating how to buy and send out phones technically.
Already 28 people interested to participate.

What is the escrow service to be used? Feels a bit odd it's not mentioned, or did I just miss it?

A not that uncommon tactic among ebay/buy & sell scammers is to convince unwitting sellers to accept the use of an "escrow service" to mediate payment, with the service in reality just being a fake website they've set up themselves, thus getting the product from the seller without actually being out of any real money.

Not saying this is the case here (and it would kind of need to operate in a reverse manner), just a friendly reminder that it's good to be vary.

mosen 2016-03-13 22:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yeum (Post 1501282)
What is the escrow service to be used?

Escrow in this case is a company with well established service for mediated online transactions.
You transfer money to them, seller gets info it is available and starts material transaction.
If the good arrives at the customer, he is asked to release the money to the seller. If there is no dispute, Escrow releases the money to him.

It actually is a disadvantage for @sifartech, because he will have to pay everything upfront or do special deals with his partners to supply us with phones in the first place.

One thing you as a custumor will pay in any case is the ~10% escrow fee. But i don't think sifartech is suspected to be working for them ;)


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