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jukk 2017-04-21 08:18

Re: Russian Open Mobile development based on SFOS
 
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Originally Posted by ka9yhd (Post 1527079)
There is been many discussions on Linux forums about systemd and a fare number of Linux distributions are staying with init and not going with systemd.
More recently Debian has forked. The official version of Debian has systemd while the forked version does not.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/260...pocalypse.html

What has this to do with this thread? Stop spreading FUD about systemd. Besides, you are several years too late. Articles such as this were written in anger and fear over unknown changes. But if the world doesn't develop, it stagnates. We can't be afraid of change. Change is always good. There is no harm done with systemd and you can continue to use the free (libre) and open source GNU/Linux system with or without systemd. Don't be afraid, there are much worse things in the world, such as binary driver blobs for smart phones :)

Edit. Besides, that article (and other) has been proven wrong many times since it was written. Systemd is not a poor implementation, it is a very successful and really good implementation that has been embraced by almost all linux distributions just because of those qualities. As the article stands today, it could as well have been written by a lunatic that doesn't believe in the moon landings.

Dave999 2017-04-21 10:01

Re: Russian Open Mobile development based on SFOS
 
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Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1527107)
Sailfish Mobile OS RUS is not for average customers (yet?), so no details can be shared to public, sorry :)

No need to share.

So it is basically bransched in some way. Thats bad. Developed in the dark. Thats bad.
How could anyone trust it when its totally deviloped in the dark. GL with that.

coderus 2017-04-21 10:05

Re: Russian Open Mobile development based on SFOS
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1527117)
No need to share.

So it is basically bransched in some way.
How could anyone trust it when its totally deviloped in the dark. GL with that.

Don't worry, average customer like you can NEVER access any closed part of Sailfish Mobile OS RUS. You can not trust, because you will never have an opportunity to use this OS.

Became a partner, place a supply order, sign many legal stuff. Only then you can know all information you need.

Dave999 2017-04-21 10:07

Re: Russian Open Mobile development based on SFOS
 
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Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1527118)
Became a partner, place a supply order, sign many legal stuff. Only then you can know all information you need :)

Where do I sign? :D

This Sounds like an OS developers around the world would like to help. Not. Sailfish moves in complete wrong direction from what I thought. Even more closed than Apple?

Thoke 2017-04-21 10:08

Re: Russian Open Mobile development based on SFOS
 
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Originally Posted by jukk (Post 1527109)
What has this to do with this thread? Stop spreading FUD about systemd. Besides, you are several years too late. Articles such as this were written in anger and fear over unknown changes. But if the world doesn't develop, it stagnates. We can't be afraid of change. Change is always good. There is no harm done with systemd and you can continue to use the free (libre) and open source GNU/Linux system with or without systemd. Don't be afraid, there are much worse things in the world, such as binary driver blobs for smart phones :)

Edit. Besides, that article (and other) has been proven wrong many times since it was written. Systemd is not a poor implementation, it is a very successful and really good implementation that has been embraced by almost all linux distributions just because of those qualities. As the article stands today, it could as well have been written by a lunatic that doesn't believe in the moon landings.

You know, you are continuing the discussion about systemd if you take a side in the argument + someone already said to stop the discussion about systemd and there was no replies about it after that... except from you.

coderus 2017-04-21 10:32

Re: Russian Open Mobile development based on SFOS
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1527119)
Sailfish moves in complete wrong direction from what I thought. Even more closed than Apple?

You should understand one simple thing: Salifish Mobile OS RUS is local russian solution for corporate customers only.

P@t 2017-04-21 10:48

Re: Russian Open Mobile development based on SFOS
 
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Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1527122)
You should understand one simple thing: Salifish Mobile OS RUS is local russian solution for corporate customers only.

My main interest as a consumer of SFOS is if the RUS company will send some lines of code back to core sailfish.
Is that happening already?

coderus 2017-04-21 10:52

Re: Russian Open Mobile development based on SFOS
 
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Originally Posted by P@t (Post 1527123)
Is that happening already?

Almost every day :)

Dave999 2017-04-21 11:06

Re: Russian Open Mobile development based on SFOS
 
:cool:
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1527122)
You should understand one simple thing: Salifish Mobile OS RUS is local russian solution for corporate customers only.

I understands that.

But how is sailfish more open to me as a user than iOS?

No problem for me if Russians Wants to hijack sail, after all they pay for it. But its currently not credible to call it open nor secure than other OS on the market from a user point of view.

I smell a scam ;)

velox 2017-04-21 11:50

Re: Russian Open Mobile development based on SFOS
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1527125)
But how is sailfish more open to me as a user than iOS?

I really typed a more or less long answer to this with some explanations of open source systems running closed source, which I deleted before posting to just say:

Please stop trolling people. Thanks.

(There really is no definition of "open to dave as a user" relevant to anyone else.)


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