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ryu1 2016-07-19 20:52

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
I managed to get to register on my local network with n900!
What i did was a CSSU update (didn't do that for a long while), and did a manual serch for network.
Now i will the note4 at home and use n900 as the main phone this week!

Posted from n900

miked1541 2016-07-19 23:33

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
I still use mine daily...mostly as a terminal running shell commands/ssh and mp3s via mplayer. I tether it to my laptop and ssh to it over USB. I also use it for garnetvm (palmOS emulator for PIM) and vnc to the device if I need to navigate from my desktop when it is attached.

Here is a pic from today where I have my terminal running screen and mplayer in my mini side monitor. Nice thing is that I can detach my session when I leave for the day and resume when I plug in at home. Oh, I also use it as my mp3 player for my car. :)

http://www.mutated.net/stuff/20160719_n900.jpg

miked1541

jurop88 2016-07-20 06:38

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 0 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by borghal (Post 1509997)
I'm OK with the binary, thanks!

In order not to hijack this thread, I started a new one for Taskwarrior.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...28#post1510128
Actually, it's quite easy to take part to the mighty N900 week when the N900 is still your main phone :)

vetsin 2016-07-20 07:06

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
Aside from being a backup phone, my N900 has always been serving its purpose as a remote for TV's, shutter button for my camera, and bluetooth keyboard/mouse for a Galaxy S4 with a busted screen that's connected to a TV.

sperle 2016-07-20 08:03

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
charged the n900. runs like hell. time to update cssu...

thanx to all devs!

take the n900 to vacation in few days for taking pictures and backup phone.

Dave999 2016-07-20 08:54

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by miked1541 (Post 1510120)
I still use mine daily...mostly as a terminal running shell commands/ssh and mp3s via mplayer. I tether it to my laptop and ssh to it over USB. I also use it for garnetvm (palmOS emulator for PIM) and vnc to the device if I need to navigate from my desktop when it is attached.

Here is a pic from today where I have my terminal running screen and mplayer in my mini side monitor. Nice thing is that I can detach my session when I leave for the day and resume when I plug in at home. Oh, I also use it as my mp3 player for my car. :)

http://www.mutated.net/stuff/20160719_n900.jpg

miked1541

Very cool. I think we need more pictures in this thread. Let the best n900 picture take it all!

Approximately half the week has gone. Keep it up guys. The N900 getting better day by day. :D

Martinus 2016-07-20 08:54

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 3 of 7)
 
I'm still using the N900 as my main phone. Reinforced the USB port back when early reports of it failing were emerging and it's given me no trouble.

I bought a busted Nexus 4 18 months ago and repaired it thinking it might have been time to replace the N900. For all the bells and whistles on the N4, my N900 is still a much better phone, multimedia device and pocket computer.

It wouldn't be this way without the continual efforts of the devs and the community here so thank you all. :)

ryu1 2016-07-20 11:32

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 3 of 7)
 
Great idea to post a picture with n900 in action this week!

Here is mine:

https://s32.postimg.org/6786al41h/CSC_0717.jpg

juiceme 2016-07-20 11:58

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 1510067)
did you try to install the certificate via the 'Settings' application? In the 'Connections' part of the settings there is 'Certificate Manager', that can install certificates.

Yes, but what I mean is I'd need to first get the certificate exported from our server.... cannot remember offhand but it is some openssh-command...
I need to do that to fetch the cert to N900, then install from there, right?

ryu1 2016-07-20 12:06

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1510164)
Yes, but what I mean is I'd need to first get the certificate exported from our server.... cannot remember offhand but it is some openssh-command...
I need to do that to fetch the cert to N900, then install from there, right?

Strange, my Gmail account is working with no problem, without installing any certificate

theonelaw 2016-07-20 13:41

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 0 of 7)
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by theonelaw (Post 1509838)
The n900 camera is still an order of magnitude better than my BQ E5 UBUNTU.

Was fooling around during my search for an Aquafish,
and remembered to take a foto to demonstrate.

Stock camera apps, haven't ever cleaned the lens in years.
just point and click.
(had to resize one of the fotos to meet TMO size limits.)

kureyon 2016-07-20 17:18

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 3 of 7)
 
Still using it daily as a utility device - IR remote control, podcasts, fm transmitter music player for car (although recently I purchased a cheap lighter socket bluetooth handsfree FM transmitter device so I could use my 808 to play music, however sound quality isn't as good as the N900 - probably because of the cheap BT and FM transmitter - but the FM signal is stronger than the N900's).

At my present location I'm also using it as my 3rd phone. But normally it wouldn't have a sim card in it.

xman 2016-07-20 17:26

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 0 of 7)
 
What sync issues are you having? And which version of own cloud are you using?

x

Quote:

Originally Posted by ymartin59 (Post 1509861)
Mine is still up and running as main and only phone since January 2010.

I expect to create soon a Docker image for N900 build chain and compile latest sync-evolution with hope to work-around a calendar sync issue with ownCloud. I have also plans to build netsurf.


michaaa62 2016-07-20 20:49

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1510164)
Yes, but what I mean is I'd need to first get the certificate exported from our server.... cannot remember offhand but it is some openssh-command...
I need to do that to fetch the cert to N900, then install from there, right?

Might be some openssl command along the lines from this stack exchange thread http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7...-from-a-server

ste-phan 2016-07-20 20:50

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 3 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 1510200)
...so I could use my 808 to play music, however sound quality isn't as good as the N900 - probably because of the cheap BT and FM transmitter - but the FM signal is stronger than the N900's).

My experience is that the N900 is second to the 808 in sound quality when wired to a HIFI chain.
Also the 808 has QuasarMX
The N900 is my second favorite digital to analogue convertor.
Compared to N900 and 808 the Jolla is a device to filter the life out music.

Of course I use my N900 on daily basis.

Actually it is only beaten in the following by other devices I own: Sound quality (808), Camera (808), Surfing (Jolla has Firefox), Hotspot (Jolla is best in this thnx to 4G, battery life and easy enabling)

N900
-cheapest way to be always online with Skype (wonder what MS gets out of this to leave the N900 untouched)
-the only phone interface that screams productivity (granted, combined with best available hardware combo at the time and not surpased)
-it doesn't take the user for an idiot. I have learned how to shift gears, break before a corner, piss in a toillet, create other human beings, jumped out of an airplane, but I can't decide when to quit programs to save battery life or just go flat-out to get stuff done, slow or not?
-
it is up to date with the times:

in 2010 my colleagues didn't imagine that I was actually homeworking from a downtown bar or at the seaside
in 2016 I only need to show my N900 and people understand I can't be connected and working all the time everywhere :D

-It is Nokia built, it just doesn't quit, even no broken USB

Needless to say, I still like my N900.

Dave999 2016-07-20 21:35

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 4 of 7)
 
Still strange even if 6 years has past...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCrCUygOTvI

miked1541 2016-07-20 22:15

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 4 of 7)
 
Since I am working remote today, here is a pic from my home setup today with daimos, my N900:

http://www.mutated.net/stuff/20160720_n900.jpg

Again, connecting via ssh over USB network (using mad developer) to laptop. Speakers are plugged in the audio port and audio is played/controlled using mplayer from the shell in the mini monitor. x11vnc is also running, so I can access gui apps from the laptop. I usually run the gui in a window, not full screen.

This has been my typical setup over the years, but usually with a SIM card in the phone. I have been starting to migrate over to an android device (forced migration...AT&T is giving me until the end of the year since they are phasing out GPRS. No more old dumb phones/Treo 680/N900* :( ) I'm still swapping my SIM with both devices, but will eventually have to use the android for voice and text (after the device is as clean as I can get it.) The N900 will then be used primarily for personal computing / hobby stuff.

* unless I go T-mo. Not really an option for me.

juiceme 2016-07-20 22:44

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ryu1 (Post 1510165)
Strange, my Gmail account is working with no problem, without installing any certificate

What you forgot to add a smiley! Or are you serious here and now...
You are talking about gmail for gossakes, of course they have an official certificate, it is the bloody google you are talking about!

It is very different thing when you host your own mailserver...

ryu1 2016-07-21 11:11

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1510231)
What you forgot to add a smiley! Or are you serious here and now...
You are talking about gmail for gossakes, of course they have an official certificate, it is the bloody google you are talking about!

It is very different thing when you host your own mailserver...

I thought the problem was with the email application of n900 itself, i did not know you were using a personal mailserver.

t-b 2016-07-21 18:07

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 4 of 7)
 
Any day of the year is Mighty N900 day for me. My main use (next to standard phone use) is Emacs.

Emacs is not just a fancy editor. My browsing is done from Emacs and it can do a lot more - ERC, task list creation, flashcards, calendar, brainstorming, reading, gaming. Haven't tried to set up my mail with emacs yet, but that it is on my todo list (my todo list created in Emacs of course :) and so much more.. )
Text on the N900 is very easy to read in bright light (very sunny the last few days)
I own four fully working N900's and not planning to change to another phone any time soon because imho there is still no better alternative.

That was the good part - and now the bad ;)

My N900 was hanging during booting a few days ago so I reflashed it. I have done that before and have a laptop with all relevant files and instructions set up so it took me not more than 30 minutes to have everything re-installed (incl. CSSU / repo's and of course Emacs including .emacs )

Then I imported the contacts from my SIM card and realized that new contacts were not automatically synced with my SIM card and there doesn't seem to be a method to do that at all. Googled a bit and I have read some posts from 2010 that it wasn't implemented by Nokia. Is that still the case?

juiceme 2016-07-21 22:01

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ryu1 (Post 1510270)
I thought the problem was with the email application of n900 itself, i did not know you were using a personal mailserver.

No offense meant :D

What is odd, I tried importing the certificate and still email does not work... (and neither does https, BTW)

I imported cert with;
Code:

echo | openssl s_client -connect mail.liukuma.net:993 2>&1 | sed -ne '/-BEGIN CERTIFICATE-/,/-END CERTIFICATE-/p' > cert.pem
and then I imported it from N900 certificate manager, and was sure to have all the options checked.
It still does not work :confused:

pichlo 2016-07-21 22:06

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 4 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t-b (Post 1510320)
Text on the N900 is very easy to read in bright light

Lucky you. I find text on the N900 extremely difficult to read. In any light.

Two reasons.

Reason one, the pixel density is way too high. That on its own might not be a problem per se but I guess it is too tempting to take advantage of that and make the text too small. Honestly, I could barely read my SMS without a magnifying glass until I found a trick how to enlarge the font.

Reason two, light text on a dark background. What genius came up with that idea? :confused: Having come to the N900 from the Palm OS world, I was astonished how backwards the usability has gone.

Don't get me wrong, I love my N900 to bits, but I am not blind to its shortcomings. The sad thing is that all of them have been carried over to the Jolla, even adding some more :(

Quote:

Then I imported the contacts from my SIM card and realized that new contacts were not automatically synced with my SIM card and there doesn't seem to be a method to do that at all. Googled a bit and I have read some posts from 2010 that it wasn't implemented by Nokia. Is that still the case?
Sadly, the inability to edit the SIM address book is another N900's shortcoming. As is the inability to sort your contacts to groups. Both carried over to Jolla as well :(

kureyon 2016-07-22 00:20

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 3 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1510220)
My experience is that the N900 is second to the 808 in sound quality when wired to a HIFI chain.

I don't mean to say that the 808 is inferior to the N900. It's just that with my setup the 808 sends music via BT to cheap device, cheap device processes the signal and transmit it via FM, the double processing will inevitably degrade the sound quality. I think if I used the N900 with that cheap device the results will be similar to the 808, and will definitely not sound as good as direct FM from the N900. The sad thing is that my 808 was bought in HK and so the FM transmitter was disabled.

kureyon 2016-07-22 00:33

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 4 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1510354)
Sadly, the inability to edit the SIM address book is another N900's shortcoming.

Does anybody still use phone numbers stored on sim card? It's so ridiculously limited - 12(?) characters for the name, and that is all you can store, just the name, no email, no address, no nothing. Last time I used it was probably when I transferred contacts from my Motorola L2000 onto my (then) spanking new Nokia E70. Ever since I've been using Nokia's transfer program (or whatever it was called) to bluetooth sync contacts to new devices (E71, N900, 808, etc), or export using vcard to non-Nokia devices.

azkay 2016-07-22 01:14

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1510353)
No offense meant :D

What is odd, I tried importing the certificate and still email does not work... (and neither does https, BTW)

I imported cert with;
Code:

echo | openssl s_client -connect mail.liukuma.net:993 2>&1 | sed -ne '/-BEGIN CERTIFICATE-/,/-END CERTIFICATE-/p' > cert.pem
and then I imported it from N900 certificate manager, and was sure to have all the options checked.
It still does not work :confused:

Probably obvious, but is the current time set on the n900?

azkay 2016-07-22 01:15

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 4 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1510354)
Lucky you. I find text on the N900 extremely difficult to read. In any light.

Two reasons.

Reason one, the pixel density is way too high. That on its own might not be a problem per se but I guess it is too tempting to take advantage of that and make the text too small. Honestly, I could barely read my SMS without a magnifying glass until I found a trick how to enlarge the font.

Reason two, light text on a dark background. What genius came up with that idea? :confused: Having come to the N900 from the Palm OS world, I was astonished how backwards the usability has gone.

I find it easy to read. First thing I do is change to light text/dark background or I find it annoying to read

mr_pingu 2016-07-22 06:33

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 3 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 1510360)
I don't mean to say that the 808 is inferior to the N900. It's just that with my setup the 808 sends music via BT to cheap device, cheap device processes the signal and transmit it via FM, the double processing will inevitably degrade the sound quality. I think if I used the N900 with that cheap device the results will be similar to the 808, and will definitely not sound as good as direct FM from the N900. The sad thing is that my 808 was bought in HK and so the FM transmitter was disabled.

Cant you flash a firmware from another region to make it work. In the N900 the transmitter was there but not enabled.
I Don't know what happens if you flash another firmware, it might brick it. But it might work too, I once flashed my 5800 to another regio/unbranded version with tools as Phoenix, nemesis or JAF.

WalkerPM 2016-07-22 07:00

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 5 of 7)
 
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Bought my N900 3 months ago. Using as a main phone, this phone is awesome. As a SSH client, music player,ADB flasher ( over Easy Debian),torrent downloader,barcode reader and etc he's working pretty good.

juiceme 2016-07-22 08:41

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 2 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by azkay (Post 1510363)
Probably obvious, but is the current time set on the n900?

Yes, time&date are correctly set.

tcbl50 2016-07-22 09:30

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 5 of 7)
 
Don't need an N900 week as I use mine daily. I have three N900s. One is spare has a peeling screen and I just keep it as back up. The second one also has a peeling screen name missing keys. Was using it as testing device but now its my one year old toddler phone. I use m player in terminal to play "Teletubbies" and I don't have to worry about him touching the screen and changing programs. I'm also comfortable knowing that if it drops not likely to be much damaged.

The third one is my regular device. It's my little pocket computer especially when I'm too lazy to get off my couch and work on my desktop. What I love is how I keep finding new things to do on the phone just by scouring the forums. Presently I use this phone:
Music player at work (connected to bluetooth speaker) in the operating theatre
Music player at home when listening in headphones either Beats by Dr or Seinheiisser. I have tested a multitude of phones but none of them can match the audio quality of the N900
Emergency remote when my toddler runs away with the TV/A receiver remote
Browser when lying in bed. So comfortable and adequate size
Qandora- a great Pandora music player with skips and no ads
Cute Tube -for YouTube videos... sometimes I'll watch YouTube in the browser just for the hell of it and remember when this used to be amazing! Youtube video in a browser on a phone!

Tweetian- for twitter. Nothing like a hardware keyboard for typing tweets fast!
Midnight commander :for when I want to arrange files on my desktop computer
SSH: I'm always ssh-ing to all my other devices including my N9 (nothing beats a hardware keyboard for typing fast
GEEPS: old but still a good Google maps client
KM PLAYER : for watching TV streams and onlinenstreams, I'm always surprised at the media it can play
XBMC remote: still works even for KODI..
Blue Maemo: always a life saver especially at work when I have an academic presentation

Then people ask me "why are u still carrying round this old phone..." I just laugh.

Never loved a phone so much before.

P.s: ironically I don't use it for phone calls or sms. Lol
p.s.s: am I the only who goes about reading old threads back in 2010 when this phone was fresh and everyone was amazed and asking questions?

ryu1 2016-07-22 10:14

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 5 of 7)
 
Cute Tube does not seem to work on my phone anymore, nor watching videos in browser.
I found Cute Tube 2, which works, but i don't find it as good as the original.
Are there other alternatives for youtube?

robthebold 2016-07-22 14:56

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 5 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ryu1 (Post 1510413)
Cute Tube does not seem to work on my phone anymore, nor watching videos in browser.
I found Cute Tube 2, which works, but i don't find it as good as the original.
Are there other alternatives for youtube?

Cutetube on N9 and N900 is deprecated following API changes at YouTube/Google, and apparently Marxian preferred to start clean with cutetube 2 instead of an updated cutetube.

I haven't found any working alternatives.

kureyon 2016-07-22 16:47

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 3 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1510376)
Cant you flash a firmware from another region to make it work.

I did some research on this a while back and I believe I can flash to Singapore firmware to enable the FM transmitter. But with the demise of Nokia and OVI store etc, I didn't really want to reflash and risk not being able to reinstall all my programs. In particular I use Nokia maps a lot and the newer Android versions don't have bus routes information that I come rely on, so I don't want to have that messed up.

tcbl50 2016-07-22 19:29

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 5 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ryu1 (Post 1510413)
Cute Tube does not seem to work on my phone anymore, nor watching videos in browser.

you can watch videos in the browser my chamging the user agent to any of the following:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/7.0; AS; rv:11.0) like Gecko

Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; Ubuntu/14.10) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.16
,,
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9_3) AppleWebKit/537.75.14 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0.3 Safari/7046A194A

however th videos play in 360p which is memory intensive. i just like the proof of concept tho :)

muto 2016-07-22 19:37

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 5 of 7)
 
N900 seems still to be the best internet radio player for different formats like ogg. Tried to listen Kohina with Jolla C today without success. Had to switch to N900.

ste-phan 2016-07-22 20:14

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 5 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muto (Post 1510493)
N900 seems still to be the best internet radio player for different formats like ogg. Tried to listen Kohina with Jolla C today without success. Had to switch to N900.

Yes, true. I also use it for internet radio.

And oh blasphemy, no need to install an "app" for that.

Those where the days where you could just expect such functionality to work right after unboxing.

Such a pleasant sound the N900 produces out of its stereo speaker set, it is quite a good table radio to listen to talk shows.

And in countries where internet connection is not top , the N900 seems to buffer the stream much better than a 300 Euro dedicated internet Radio (Airstream 10).

Nothing like streaming that internet radio to *any* car's FM radio while on the road.

When FM broadcast goes out of the air, the N900 will come to the rescue from day one to fee my vintage amp tuner with FM signal.

Dave999 2016-07-22 21:27

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 6 of 7)
 
Epic week coming to an end. Keep the n900 charged all the way to end and beyond!

Two days to go.

What I like most? All the comments regarding the size of the n900...

juiceme 2016-07-23 08:26

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 6 of 7)
 
One nice thing is the included mahjong solitaired game, something I have missed on Jolla.

t-b 2016-07-23 11:49

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 4 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1510354)
Lucky you. I find text on the N900 extremely difficult to read. In any light.
(

White background and black fonts are extremely easy to read on the N900 (I can even read it well without my reading glasses). I am sure you will agree if you try that out.

t-b 2016-07-23 11:59

Re: The Mighty N900 Week 2016(Day 6 of 7)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1510537)
One nice thing is the included mahjong solitaired game, something I have missed on Jolla.

Gameboy classic has two of my favorite Mahjong Solitaire games eg Shanghai / Shisenshou. You might try to install a gb emulator (assuming there is one for Jolla)


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