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ajalkane 2016-10-08 14:24

Re: 2.0.4/Fiskarsinjoki
 
This update has repeatedly caused my screen to freeze.

Double tap wakes it up somehow, but no swipes or clicks go through. Only remedy is reboot.

Quite annoying. Anyone else experienced this?

Ancelad 2016-10-08 14:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ajalkane (Post 1516421)
This update has repeatedly caused my screen to freeze.

Double tap wakes it up somehow, but no swipes or clicks go through. Only remedy is reboot.

Quite annoying. Anyone else experienced this?

Try to disable LPM, it seems broken

juiceme 2016-10-08 15:18

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Has anyone tried if my "2-finger-tap-workaround" that helps with SFOS/Hammerhead works on the freezing 2.0.4.13 devices?

Bundyo 2016-10-08 15:25

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1516428)
Has anyone tried if my "2-finger-tap-workaround" that helps with SFOS/Hammerhead works on the freezing 2.0.4.13 devices?

It doesn't work for me, but I don't have a lock.

mautz 2016-10-08 15:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ajalkane (Post 1516421)
This update has repeatedly caused my screen to freeze.

Double tap wakes it up somehow, but no swipes or clicks go through. Only remedy is reboot.

Quite annoying. Anyone else experienced this?

You could use the workaround to restart lipstick from the Nexus5 thread instead of rebooting the device:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=101

Bundyo 2016-10-08 15:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancelad (Post 1516423)
Try to disable LPM, it seems broken

The LPM is not causing the freeze - it will still happen, but much less often.

coderus 2016-10-08 15:57

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never happened to me after disabling lpm and rebooting.

Bundyo 2016-10-08 16:00

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It happened to me 2 or 3 times, though in a rather long period of time.

lal 2016-10-08 18:34

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Did the update have any influence on battery endurance?

I read a lot of posts claiming version 2.0.2.x is hard on battery. Cannot confirm it myself as I never owned a Sailfish device before AquaFish.

zlatko 2016-10-08 18:37

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Since the upgrade to 2.0.4.13 Settings>Utilities on my device does not load. Anyone else?

meemorph 2016-10-08 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by zlatko (Post 1516442)
Since the upgrade to 2.0.4.13 Settings>Utilities on my device does not load. Anyone else?

Upgrade version from store, you need the new one.

zlatko 2016-10-08 18:59

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@meemorph
Thanks! Didn't get the update notification :)

mikecomputing 2016-10-08 19:47

Re: 2.0.4/Fiskarsinjoki
 
My FP2 still draining battery after the update :(

Schturman 2016-10-08 20:42

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For me battery drain is much better after upgrading on all 3 devices. Now tablet stay on 70-80% all day when before it was 20-30% at the end of day (with wifi off).

coderus 2016-10-08 20:57

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Every new update draining a lot more battery than previous. THis is normal.

juiceme 2016-10-08 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1516457)
Every new update draining a lot more battery than previous. THis is normal.

Yes, this is because there is more code in each update, hence it takes more amperes to run.

Also the device is some grams heavier after each update, for the same reason. (I have a very accurate chinese scales and have it measured)

coderus 2016-10-08 22:29

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easy, it's not gramms, it should be only 10-20 milligramms!

pichlo 2016-10-09 06:16

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Einstein discovered the equivalence of matter and energy. Physicists later discovered the equivalence of matter, energy and information. The consequences are worrying. If you concentrate too much information in one place, you can create an information implosion. In a word, a black hole.

This is the reason the updates fail so frequently.

Dave999 2016-10-09 06:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1516468)
Einstein discovered the equivalence of matter and energy. Physicists later discovered the equivalence of matter, energy and information. The consequences are worrying. If you concentrate too much information in one place, you can create an information implosion. In a word, a black hole.

This is the reason the updates fail so frequently.

True. During last update I got a black screen bug, which could be the result of that.

eson 2016-10-09 06:32

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1516469)
True. During last update I got a black screen bug, which could be the result of that.

Yes, that's the visual hole. :)

pichlo 2016-10-09 08:01

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Originally Posted by KylliOrvokki (Post 1516194)
WOW!
Browser works so much better now! :)

Indeed. Although the old bug is still there. When you close the browser after a longish session, possibly with a few downloads, it then refuses to start again the next day. It sits there spinning for a few seconds and then shuts down. Killing sailfish-browser sometimes helps, but most of the times the only cure is a reboot.

Bundyo 2016-10-09 08:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1516473)
Indeed. Although the old bug is still there. When you close the browser after a longish session, possibly with a few downloads, it then refuses to start again the next day. It sits there spinning for a few seconds and then shuts down. Killing sailfish-browser sometimes helps, but most of the times the only cure is a reboot.

Hmm, never encountered this one...

mscion 2016-10-09 08:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1516468)
Einstein discovered the equivalence of matter and energy. Physicists later discovered the equivalence of matter, energy and information. The consequences are worrying. If you concentrate too much information in one place, you can create an information implosion. In a word, a black hole.

This is the reason the updates fail so frequently.

Fascinating! So what is the mass of a bit or byte?

mikecomputing 2016-10-09 10:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1516457)
Every new update draining a lot more battery than previous. THis is normal.

I read somewhere several weeks ago, "next update should fix some battery issues" so I didn't bother report it.

But now I think it could be cause of some cellular issue on my FP2.

Cellular is often getting disabled on FP2 for unknown reason and I have to go to settings and toggle 3G setting then it comes back.

Maybe cellular is retrying connect in background and fail all the time and drains battery? I should probably report this somewhere not sure where...

Anyone with FP2 who has similar issues? Notice this was seen before upgrade but battery seems drain even faster now. Not holding a day :(

juiceme 2016-10-09 11:15

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Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1516476)
Fascinating! So what is the mass of a bit or byte?

It's one quantum unit of mass. But from this also follows that information has temperature, as it is also unit of entropy. Go figure! :eek:

pichlo 2016-10-09 12:08

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1516479)
But from this also follows that information has temperature

Sure it does. Equivalence, remember?

pichlo 2016-10-09 12:59

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Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 1516474)
Hmm, never encountered this one...

I cannot reproduce it at will either. But it is guaranteed to happen at least once a month. Usually after an intensive browsing session lasting nonstop for at least an hour, with lots of skipping from one page to another. Downloading lots of stuff may also be related. Follow a link, start a download, navigate back, follow another link... never linger anywhere for longer than two minutes. After an hour or two of that, close the browser. Go to sleep. Try to start the browser the next day. Tada!

mrsellout 2016-10-09 13:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1516478)
I read somewhere several weeks ago, "next update should fix some battery issues" so I didn't bother report it.

But now I think it could be cause of some cellular issue on my FP2.

Cellular is often getting disabled on FP2 for unknown reason and I have to go to settings and toggle 3G setting then it comes back.

Maybe cellular is retrying connect in background and fail all the time and drains battery? I should probably report this somewhere not sure where...

Anyone with FP2 who has similar issues? Notice this was seen before upgrade but battery seems drain even faster now. Not holding a day :(

nodevel has documented what might be a fix for this issue here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1023

mscion 2016-10-09 14:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1516479)
It's one quantum unit of mass. But from this also follows that information has temperature, as it is also unit of entropy. Go figure! :eek:

Does the fact that information has temperature explain why the Note 7s are catching fire?

lal 2016-10-09 15:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1516492)
Does the fact that information has temperature explain why the Note 7s are catching fire?

May be samsung and google are stealing too much information such that the device electronics cannot stand. It might have resulted in a breakdown at some point which exponentially increases the flow of data and hence temperature.

tvicol 2016-10-09 16:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1516476)
Fascinating! So what is the mass of a bit or byte?

Your answer is in this video. Take your time and watch till the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc9P5yb3Xtc

Our beloved Jolla get "energised" with very each update. :)

pichlo 2016-10-09 18:33

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Incidentally, the reason a factory reset helps after a botched update is that it redistributes the information evenly. As you use your device, you inevitably create pockets of a higher density of information. If you do a system update at this stage, you may exceed the critical information density and - bang!

meemorph 2016-10-09 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1516457)
Every new update draining a lot more battery than previous. THis is normal.

You are right! But only if you upgrade a device that was not designed in Finland by Jolla Oy.

MikeHG 2016-10-09 20:12

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1516502)
...redistributes the information evenly...

Hmmm. Possibility of a 'shake to reformat' gesture? At least I'd treat my phone more gently...

:p

explit 2016-10-09 20:41

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1516302)
What about fairphone?



Updated to 2.0.4.13 installed fine on my FP2.
Please disable all patches and uninstall the patches ultimate statusbar and ICE.

After updating the adaptation0 repo will be reset to jolla stock settings - so you need to to set it again with sed command. (See fp2-wiki)

All other things works fine.

explit 2016-10-09 20:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 1516282)
I had similar issue after upgrading to 2.0.3.14 - one of the patches was the culprit - I think the ultimate statusbar. After disabling it through SSH, it started loading.

The strangest thing was that it only happened on the tablet, so I didn't report it as I thought the problem was with mine only.

Yes thanks, it was the ultimate statusbar patch.

mautz 2016-10-10 12:02

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1516347)
I have of course nightly rsync copy of my home so nothing's lost really except time...

Is there a way to make a backup of the whole system with rsync?

nthn 2016-10-11 07:56

Re: 2.0.4/Fiskarsinjoki
 
I think I can almost safely say that since the second my phone was updated to 2.0.4, the battery drain of 2.0.2 ended. Battery usage during 8-10 hours of sleep is now 4-5% with Wi-Fi on, 12 open applications and Android support running and 1-2% with Wi-Fi off, where it was 15-30% with 2.0.2. Nothing else changed, so it seems to be fixed.

nthn 2016-10-11 08:01

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See:
https://a.pomf.cat/wcmxqs.png

juiceme 2016-10-11 10:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mautz (Post 1516542)
Is there a way to make a backup of the whole system with rsync?

Yes, of course. You only need to run it as root OFC. And you probably don't want to backup /sys, /proc and such...
I recommend you mount your mmcblk0p28 to some other directory and then rsync that. Much neater than trying to rsync live root.

Note that to restore that is not so trivial; I'd imagine you cannot rsync back your rootfs when running the said system :D

I however have found it necessaty to rsync only /home/nemo since everything else can be recovered from images and the apps are easy to re-download from the store.


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