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gerbick 2018-04-30 17:14

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
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Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1543832)
I know. But considering that phones killed compacts. Almost. Let's say that it is. Particulary because a lot of people will say that they did get XY only because of better camera.

Funny, I just ran across tidbit of information pertaining Casio leaving digital compact camera market over the weekend.

I agree. Sites like Flickr like to point out that the iPhone is their most used camera. I've heard folks talk about getting a particular phone mainly due to the camera whereas I rarely hear (now) folks bemoan the lack of a hardware keyboard beyond this forum.

Not that it is not important; quite the opposite. But it's just an indicator of how the hardware keyboard is not really a primary concern any longer to the average consumer.

endsormeans 2018-04-30 17:37

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Agreed...

Like it or not...
We are smack in the middle of "Brave New World" folks...

gerbick 2018-04-30 17:44

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Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1543837)
We are smack in the middle of "Brave New World" folks...

Huxley was more right than Orwell.

mscion 2018-04-30 18:53

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Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1543837)
Agreed...

Like it or not...
We are smack in the middle of "Brave New World" folks...

It's a brave new world full of cowards! Not sure what I mean but it makes a good sound byte!

endsormeans 2018-04-30 21:32

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hahaahaha....agreed mscion
and yes most certainly gerbick...
orwell's futuristic view is here...it just lurks below the surface of society ...waiting to happen...
but until such time as such drastic measures by states globally are taken..
Huxley's vision and implementation is working just fine...

Speaking of dystopian visions...
I just saw a week ago...
a film I had completely missed ...
that puts them both to shame ...
and REALLY smacks of the here and now..
Still can't believe I missed it...all these years...never noticed it.
Nigel Kneale's "The Year of the Sex Olympics"
It is truly horrifying in how close it comes to where we are now and where it is leading us...

The film makes the societies and peoples of Huxley's and Orwell's vision....
Look absolutely tame...sane...highly educated, ethical and moral ..in compare.
And it is such a well done film.
the sense of foreboding is palpable...
what it evokes is ...
well...
it is very well done...
I will put it that way..
definitely a must see...
youtube has it ..
I highly recommend it.

and as far as comparable dystopian films that come closest to the "now"...
I also suggest "Death Watch" (1980)
It could be just a few years down the road...that is how close the science and the world politics and society is... in it...
and what the film plot is....well...
They saw the direction we were going ...40 years before it came to be...
and they hit it bang on with this film...
Another must see...

NX500 2018-05-01 12:26

Re: Purism Librem Phone
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1543835)
Not that it is not important; quite the opposite. But it's just an indicator of how the hardware keyboard is not really a primary concern any longer to the average consumer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1543837)
Agreed...

Like it or not...
We are smack in the middle of "Brave New World" folks...

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1543838)
Huxley was more right than Orwell.

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Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1543840)
It's a brave new world full of cowards! Not sure what I mean but it makes a good sound byte!

The worst timeline

pichlo 2018-05-01 12:41

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1543838)
Huxley was more right than Orwell.

You grew up in the wrong part of the world.

Or, come to think of it, the right one.

sulu 2018-05-02 11:24

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1543855)
You grew up in the wrong part of the world.

Or, come to think of it, the right one.

Depends on your perspective I'd think. At least in Orwell's dystopia "Die Gedanken sind frei" [1] - sort of.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Gedanken_sind_frei

pichlo 2018-05-02 11:45

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My reference was to gerbick's assertion of who was more right. That is, whose predictions were closer to reality. Not which reality I would prefer.

In the part of the world where I grew up, Orwell was definitely closer to the spot. After all, he modeled his books on that world. Unlike Huxley, whose creation was just an educated guess.

Wolda 2018-05-02 15:49

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Yeah, seems that Orwell and Huxley were seeing the future of different sides of the Channel. BTW, Pichlo, where did you grow up?

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1543874)
My reference was to gerbick's assertion of who was more right. That is, whose predictions were closer to reality. Not which reality I would prefer.

In the part of the world where I grew up, Orwell was definitely closer to the spot. After all, he modeled his books on that world. Unlike Huxley, whose creation was just an educated guess.



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