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refer to the 1st and 2nd lines of my last post....

It is a given historical norm...anything with promise gets eaten by a bigger fish....and then squashed....filed away...dismantled...watered down...corrupted...contaminated...turned to the dark side...or outright killed

So ...if the rumour is true....
that will be and end to that.

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Yes and don't forget the perpetual motion machine. Another great invention hidden from the masses!

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hahaha....yup.
well there is good reason...
Tesla's machines to harness the planet's power as energy...is a bit unstable...
as in "Kaablooie!" unstable...

I dare you to build one in the garage mscion...
start it up...
and then pull out your stopwatch and count how long it takes for the black unmarked suv's and helicopters to arrive to dismantle the machine and take you away, box the wife and kids, flamethrower the cat and dog, and open a sinkhole under your house to swallow it up forever...

Where are Dave and Maemish?
This convo is up their alley...
:D

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You don't need to go even that far; there's lots of mainstream tech they don't want one to have.
Why, I remember there was this guy in Sweden last year who started building a nuclear power plant in his yard, just for personal energy needs and they arrested him.

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geez...the nerve eh?
The guy just wanted to build a nuclear power plant...

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Samsung smartphone chips and NXP are not targeting the same market, so it wouldn't mean playing the same strategy.
NXP is making chips mostly for industrial and automotive embedded systems, most of which are running either some kind of real time OS, or Linux through Yocto where you need some good support.
A lot of companies are releasing i.Mx modules for easy integration in products (Toradex to name one, but a lot other if you search a little), not an ecosystem that really exists for Samsung chips.

And it is not the first time a company wants to buy NXP, last one was Qualcomm, so no need to be scared yet for something that may not come before a long time if it really comes...

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I don't wanna hijack the above discussion. But I am now looking at the alpha of plasmamobile on librem phone and have huge respect to the devteam of plasma. But also huge respect to the librem team for phosh.

BUT still I wonder why on earth do we reinvent the wheel over and over again also sometimes using old crap unsafe languages like C. I mean cmon? C!? it is 2019 for got sake. There is no damn way I will make apps in Gtk after I have started to use Rust. I am so f... sick of C/C++ and don't want to use it anymore.

QML yes fine for me problem with QML is that we reinvent the QML component UI's over and over again :(

Nemo mobile is using QtControl 1.0 as base of nemo controls.

plasma used kirigami in top of QtControls 2.0.

In top of that we have sailfishos wish is half open source component UI.

If we started to help each other instead of reinvent stuff over and over again we could make a great new free open source based phone OS.

Also please stop bloat UI and stop try make and shitty android bloatware UI with widgets all over the phone screen I mean cmon!?. make it simple base it on n9/nemo (== SwipeUI)

Or to be more clear: Help the nemo mobile team and mabe we can port it to QtControls 2.0?

Jikes I reealise I am a big hypiocrite since I have not contributed in anyway myself. I blame it on my dayjob that kills code inspiration. If I was less payed and there was FOSS/Qt/Rust job in my country/town I would take that job for sure... But for now I could only contribute with a small fee if someone decided to port nemo to librem and I was sure there was a small company behind it too since I know hobbyist loosing interests or get day job and stop contribute caause of lack of time.

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I agree with many thing you have pointed out. I feel that Nemo would have been a great place UI wise to start from. As of right now I'm not a fan of the plasma mobile UI. However with large screens some of their choice do make sense.

I was hoping that with Tizen, Web OS, Maemo, Meego and even Blackberry 10 they would all be able to share apps with qt and etc ... there by give open software a group chance to be a large selection of software to run on phones. Sadly never happened.

I can't complaint about people spending there time, just wish it would be more cross pollination of efforts.

x

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Kirigami is somewhat different from Sailfish QML since it targets mobile and desktop at the same time. In practice, it actually seem to work, as far as I can see on Pure Maps example. Kirigami is actively developed which helps when you hit bugs in it. Its not as polished as Silica and there are few things missing (attached pages, few signals, to name few), but they may get implemented if asked for it.

After working with Kirigami for few month: Maybe it would make sense to port Nemo / Sailfish over to Kirigami and make its own styling through https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtquickcontrols2-styles.html (Kirigami has desktop KDE style and Plasma mobile style). At least its already on QC2 and, as such, its not a big extension of regular QC2. They mainly rely on QC2 styling and add just things that are needed to comply with KDE HIG. However, they do try to get towards swiping UX, just may need some help to achieve it.

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https://puri.sm/posts/lockdown-mode-...kill-switches/

This alone makes me think to buy the Librem Phone for finally replacing my beloved N900... Seriously thinking to pull the trigger and preorder now!
Tick-tock-tick-tock...
Puri.sm or Livermorium?
Tick-tock-tick-tock...
Honestly, I'm leaning towards Puri.sm + Pyra combination. Kill switches + battery out and that's it!