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unique311 2007-09-18 04:01

Kagu 1.0.8 release....
 
simply, wow
the facelift is really nice.
check it out everybody.


https://garage.maemo.org/projects/kagu/

thomasdawes 2007-09-18 04:51

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i agree really nice work. nice facelift beautiful graphics

Mahaloha 2007-09-18 06:31

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Wow...it keeps getting better. Keep up the great work.

mrp 2007-09-18 06:35

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are there any plans for upnp media server support for Kagu?

trevarthan 2007-09-18 13:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrp (Post 76163)
are there any plans for upnp media server support for Kagu?

No. We're not opposed to UPnP support. There is simply a lack of interest between the developers right now. If someone new wants to come along and add it, then we'd be happy to accept the patch and help out. If you're a developer and interested in UPnP, join us on IRC in FreeNode's #kagu channel and we'll discuss it.

zeez 2007-09-18 14:12

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Awesome work! I love the new version!

frasej 2007-09-18 15:07

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Question deleted by stupid user. ;)

bluehash 2007-09-18 15:48

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Beautiful.. Much much better :)
Lightweight and responsive than the previous
Thanks!

unique311 2007-09-18 16:38

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Still, my bluetooth headset is not playing nice with my n800, followed the simplified instructions on the site to the bone.
shows that the device is connected, but no sound.
but all in all, tis the only issue i'm having.
Oh did I mention visualization would be a nice add. ;)

Guess thats a feature request.

ascherjim 2007-09-18 17:46

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While hopefully no less appreciative then many others in this forum of the enterprise and accomplishments to date of all those behind this wonderful application, I regret I am still in a bit of a fog as to how it all works. Specifically:

1. How do you build your playlist without having Kagu (seemingly) begin playing the instant the first item is entered? Is there a way to delay the starting of play until the full playlist is assembled?

2. I know this issue has been raised before, but in the new version can you now save a playlist, and if so how (and also how to name it)?

3. How do you delete a playlist? The new version now has a separate (and welcome) listing of playlists (some of which it has initially extracted from some obscure(?) file source in my N800).

4. And lastly (and perhaps I'm being incredibly dense here) what do all the icons on the left side do and represent?

As has been pointed out by others, the new appearance is spectacular (if not perhaps just a trifle gaudy?) but I can certainly, and readily, live comfortably with it, and I appear to be in quite a minority of one in this perception.

Again, many thanks to all.

Mattox 2007-09-18 17:53

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Another amazing release! Well done!

sachin007 2007-09-18 17:58

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Great job!!!!

audioworld 2007-09-18 19:37

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ascherjim,

your questions are perfectly valid, the KAGU developers are extremly busy at improving the application, adding new features and fullfilling requests. So I volunteered to add some documentation (I was as puzzled as you what all those icons are doing and how the app really works). Please look at the KAGU WIKI pages on maemo garage:
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wik...?id=304&type=g

all your pending questions are answered there, for example BUTTONS+ICONS:
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wik...&id=304&type=g

Please be aware that the screenshots still show the "old" skin (derived from 1.0.7), the new green skin+icons were just added VERY recently and makes the documentation look outdated, but the functional descriptions do fully apply.

trevarthan 2007-09-18 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unique311 (Post 76243)
Still, my bluetooth headset is not playing nice with my n800, followed the simplified instructions on the site to the bone.
shows that the device is connected, but no sound.
but all in all, tis the only issue i'm having.
Oh did I mention visualization would be a nice add. ;)

Guess thats a feature request.

Which headset do you have? Model #?

trevarthan 2007-09-18 20:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unique311 (Post 76243)
Oh did I mention visualization would be a nice add. ;)

Guess thats a feature request.

We're thinking about it. I've spoken with one of the Canola devs who is a bit smarter than I and he told me about something called libvisual that hooks into mplayer. So yeah, visuals are a possibility in the future, but they'll require mplayer, I think.

VCi15 2007-09-18 20:18

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good job, I like the background and style much better

trevarthan 2007-09-18 20:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VCi15 (Post 76304)
good job, I like the background and style much better

We haven't started an official Kagu 1.0.8 thread yet, so I guess we'll use this one. :)

I'd like to give a huge "Thank You" to yogz, who joined us from the community and gave us the new "Green" theme just a few days before the release. He's very very talented, and it's quite awesome! Thank You, yogz! You're the man!

trevarthan 2007-09-18 20:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ascherjim (Post 76260)
1. How do you build your playlist without having Kagu (seemingly) begin playing the instant the first item is entered? Is there a way to delay the starting of play until the full playlist is assembled?

No, it always starts playing immediately. Sorry. That just seemed like the "correct" thing to do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ascherjim (Post 76260)
2. I know this issue has been raised before, but in the new version can you now save a playlist, and if so how (and also how to name it)?

We're working very hard on the new playlist code. Currently, when you exit Kagu it saves the playlist to:

Code:

~/.kagu/playlist.m3u
And it'll load that playlist for you automatically when Kagu is started back up again.

Also, the scanner will look for any m3u files (playlists) on your tablet, with a few exceptions to avoid pulling in Nokia Media Server m3u's.

There is no "Save As" functionality yet. We need an onscreen keyboard for that so we put it off till the next release. Coming Soon!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ascherjim (Post 76260)
3. How do you delete a playlist? The new version now has a separate (and welcome) listing of playlists (some of which it has initially extracted from some obscure(?) file source in my N800).

Delete the playlist from your filesystem, then re-run the scanner. We might add delete functionality along with "Save As" in future versions. That would make sense.

ascherjim 2007-09-18 20:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by audioworld (Post 76294)
ascherjim,

your questions are perfectly valid, the KAGU developers are extremly busy at improving the application, adding new features and fullfilling requests. So I volunteered to add some documentation (I was as puzzled as you what all those icons are doing and how the app really works). Please look at the KAGU WIKI pages on maemo garage:
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wik...?id=304&type=g

all your pending questions are answered there, for example BUTTONS+ICONS:
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wik...&id=304&type=g

Please be aware that the screenshots still show the "old" skin (derived from 1.0.7), the new green skin+icons were just added VERY recently and makes the documentation look outdated, but the functional descriptions do fully apply.

Audioworld: Many thanks for your very helpful response, as well as initiative in developing this wiki. It's all fairly complex, with of course some duplication of controls, but now at least I have some idea how to manage the loading and playback of playlists. (I just wish Kagu wouldn't start playing the moment I add the first item to the playlist. I'm hopeful that this, among other matters I raised earlier, might be dealt with in the future.) Again, thanks to all of you.

audioworld 2007-09-18 21:10

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ascherjim:

I just couldnīt wait to update the WIKI with screenshots of new skin.
Please check it again, now it explains the new green icons..-)

disq 2007-09-18 21:35

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btw since kagu works both on OS2006 and OS2007, this thread should probably be in the General section of the forum.

unique311 2007-09-18 21:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trevarthan (Post 76302)
Which headset do you have? Model #?

Motorola H500.

ClockworkCar 2007-09-18 22:38

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I absolutely love the new look and feature/functionality goes from strength to strength. Bravo:D

One question - how do I add artist picture? I tried putting albums into individual group folders, then added a jpeg to that folder entitled artist, but Kagu just displays the default cd icon.

Keep up the fantastic work:)

Mara 2007-09-19 00:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by audioworld (Post 76294)
ascherjim,

your questions are perfectly valid, the KAGU developers are extremly busy at improving the application, adding new features and fullfilling requests. So I volunteered to add some documentation (I was as puzzled as you what all those icons are doing and how the app really works). Please look at the KAGU WIKI pages on maemo garage:
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wik...?id=304&type=g

all your pending questions are answered there, for example BUTTONS+ICONS:
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wik...&id=304&type=g

Please be aware that the screenshots still show the "old" skin (derived from 1.0.7), the new green skin+icons were just added VERY recently and makes the documentation look outdated, but the functional descriptions do fully apply.

Does this really require Python? I have not installed Python and Kagu works just fine... Maybe he Wiki needs updating?

unique311 2007-09-19 02:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 76345)
Does this really require Python? I have not installed Python and Kagu works just fine... Maybe he Wiki needs updating?

type python at the command line...

audioworld 2007-09-19 11:03

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mara,

yes, kagu definitely needs to have python installed. btw, I update the WIKI almost daily (the screenshots are already show the most recent "green" skin by yagzu), so at the moment there are not "historical artefacts" in there.-)

maybe some other application installed python in the background without you noticing (I am no programming wizard to tell if this is possible, only speculating here)

Mara 2007-09-19 11:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by audioworld (Post 76391)
mara,

yes, kagu definitely needs to have python installed. btw, I update the WIKI almost daily (the screenshots are already show the most recent "green" skin by yagzu), so at the moment there are not "historical artefacts" in there.-)

maybe some other application installed python in the background without you noticing (I am no programming wizard to tell if this is possible, only speculating here)

Hmm... that must have happened since typing python on xterm does indicate it is there... It is not shown in installed applications, though?

trevarthan 2007-09-19 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unique311 (Post 76324)
Motorola H500.

I think I mentioned this already, but that's not an A2DP headset. It's a SCO headset. That's why it doesn't work. It isn't designed to work yet. We've got a ticket for that, but I'm not sure if it will ever get worked on by me as I don't have a whole lot of interest in supporting mono headsets right now:
https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/ticket/17

trevarthan 2007-09-19 12:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockworkCar (Post 76333)
I absolutely love the new look and feature/functionality goes from strength to strength. Bravo:D

One question - how do I add artist picture? I tried putting albums into individual group folders, then added a jpeg to that folder entitled artist, but Kagu just displays the default cd icon.

Keep up the fantastic work:)

Not possible in 1.0.8. It downloads them automatically or not at all. New ticket: https://www.guardiani.us/projects/ka...et/123#preview

audioworld 2007-09-19 13:19

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mara,

in my list of installed application python DOES show up as "python 2.5 runtime". So if your KAGU works without this runtime installed, I also do not know what is up...

trevarthan: is it possible to run KAGU without the python runtime?

heavyt 2007-09-19 13:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by audioworld (Post 76294)
ascherjim,

your questions are perfectly valid, the KAGU developers are extremly busy at improving the application, adding new features and fullfilling requests. So I volunteered to add some documentation (I was as puzzled as you what all those icons are doing and how the app really works). Please look at the KAGU WIKI pages on maemo garage:
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wik...?id=304&type=g

all your pending questions are answered there, for example BUTTONS+ICONS:
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wik...&id=304&type=g

Please be aware that the screenshots still show the "old" skin (derived from 1.0.7), the new green skin+icons were just added VERY recently and makes the documentation look outdated, but the functional descriptions do fully apply.

Thank-you, Thank-you......!! :)

Mara 2007-09-19 13:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by audioworld (Post 76412)
mara,

in my list of installed application python DOES show up as "python 2.5 runtime". So if your KAGU works without this runtime installed, I also do not know what is up...

trevarthan: is it possible to run KAGU without the python runtime?

Well... I never installed Python runtime using application manager. What must have happened is that somehow some application (Kagu? that should be the only app on my tablet that requires Python) did install Python runtime or some libraries without my knowledge? As I said, when typing python in xterm it show that it is installed there somehow.

However, Python is not shown in application manager as installed application. I can see Python 2.5 runtime in installable applications. This is how it should behave IF Python wasn't installed yet... :confused:

ImDisaster 2007-09-19 13:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trevarthan (Post 76400)
Not possible in 1.0.8. It downloads them automatically or not at all. New ticket: https://www.guardiani.us/projects/ka...et/123#preview

In my case it spent 5 to 10 minutes looking for album art. I got the impression it found some, but none is shown...nor are the artists names...just the song titles. Perhaps there is a limitation with wma's?

Otherwise the look is very polished...love the kinetic menu.

One other comment. Looks like the developers took a page from the Nokia book. Tiny ambiguous icons which you have to click on to figure what they do. The control icons should be bigger and include pop-ups to tell you what they do.

ascherjim 2007-09-19 14:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by audioworld (Post 76294)
...all your pending questions are answered there, for example BUTTONS+ICONS:
https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wik...&id=304&type=g

Audioworld: As follow-up to your most welcome and useful wiki, I have one further need for clarification:

Regarding the button that cycles between "Linear, Loop All, Loop Singular, or Random playback," what do these mean? Again, Many thanks.

Roc Ingersol 2007-09-19 17:07

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I'm a big fan and this is a great update.
But... I'd prefer a brighter color for current item highlighting. The dark green is almost imperceptible at a glance. Any chance of getting an option for that?

Also, a count of songs in the playlist on the playlist screen would be great. And/or an easy way to jump to the beginning/end of the list.

ezuall 2007-09-19 17:35

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Great work!

chgu 2007-09-19 19:13

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Found a slight problem. I'll probably file a bug report later, but Kagu seems to leave a rogue mplayer process running at 100% CPU usage on my n800. Kills my battery after an hour or two. I JUST found out after finding my battery almost dead a second time.

ascherjim 2007-09-19 19:51

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[QUOTE/] ascherjim; How do you delete a playlist? The new version now has a separate (and welcome) listing of playlists (some of which it has initially extracted from some obscure(?) file source in my N800). [/QUOTE]

Trevarthan: Further to my above earlier query, concerning the apparently "obscure" file source from which was derived the initial listing that appeared in my new Kagu "playlist" category, after my installing and scanning the new version of Kagu, I have subsequently discovered that it's a copy of my "/home/user/MyDocs/.sounds" directory. Short of my deleting that directory, which I do not wish to do, how can I remove those items from my Kagu "playlist' listing?

hawkfanz 2007-09-19 23:27

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Any chance there will be a shuffle all music option in the next release? I feel it's the only thing missing with Kagu. Also, what do you use to download the album art. It works great and I want to use it on my main computer also. Thanks!

audioworld 2007-09-20 09:31

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ascherjim, hawkfanz,

SHUFFLE ALL is already implemented, from the top menu of KAGU do this:

1) doubletap on "All Songs" main list entry
2) tap on "Add All" Icon on the left side
3) tap the "Playlist Mode" Icon three times to show the entangled arrows
--> endless music joy!

the "Playlist Mode" icon cycles trough four playback modes on every tap:

straight arrows: play top to bottom as shown in playlist and stop at the end
looped arrows: play straight top to bottom and start from top again
looped arrows with (very small) number "1": loop one song
entangled arrows: random playback of playlist items

I will clarify this on the WIKI also,
happy shuffling,
karl.


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