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I'd like to see something a little more game-friendly, but not if it makes the tablet much thicker.

That would be nice, but I could live without having two cameras and just having one on the top edge that you could have face in front of you or your face.

Segregated memory is not a good idea in a tablet like this. As stated, we won't need to reflash anymore after Chinook (hopefully).

I don't own one, so I couldn't care less.
Would be nice, but I'm not a business user, so it's not that big a deal. I would just be happy if the contacts would stop duplicating all the time.

microb is a beta running a beta version of a HTTP renderer, so I don't think this is such a big deal for the moment. It's based upon the bleeding edge version of Gecko, which will be used in Firefox 3.0. I'd imagine that by the time Chinook rolls around, we'll see it running smoother.

I can understand this, though I personally am happy with the client.

9) The last 3 combine to also say:

what about a scaled down version of the mozilla calendar apps? Or some sort of built in calendar?

You can either check out the RTCOMM beta or, if you aren't the kind of person that likes filing bugs and trying to fix crashes, wait for it to be included in Chinook. It allows you to pretty much do what you've asked.

Pretty much the only thing that could make the N800 more useful than it is already. Canada's already covered pretty heavily with WiMAX... I just hope it will be supported here.

So long as it's an option.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the earbuds that come with the N800 were stereo and also had a microphone. I wouldn't know personally as I can't use earbuds (far too uncomfortable for me).

Newer versions of the Linux bluetooth stack, Bluez, contains support for AD2P... so I would imagine this should be possible soon.

Agreed.

Not sure I see the point.

It's supposedly a big power drain.

You *never* flash stuff by Wifi. Flash by writing an image on a card... I could see that being more useful, but I just know people are going to find some way to do it accidentally and then complain about it.

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Use a Jabber server with several gateways. I do that and it works quite well for me. Native support would be nice though.

Agreed, but I don't know what kind of CPU power requirements it would need to do h264 and all that.

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i attached a picture from thr builtin camera with me looking directly on the device.

you could use a decoderchip. there was one on linuxdevices with 1w powerconsumption.

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The N800's earphones already have a microphone, you can see it on the top of the plastic thing with the button on it.

People can hear you fine if you just wear the earphones and talk as normal, you don't have to hold it up to your mouth or anything like that.

The N800's headset is almost identical to the headset bundled with Nokia phones, except it has a 3.5mm plug instead of a 2.5mm plug.

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I throw my support behind you here. I have no need for a cell phone, and I have no interest in Nokia adding bulk, power drain, additional upfront costs, or ongoing monthly costs to the Internet tablet line for a feature I'll never use.

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The keyboard I propose would be a thumb keyboard. In the same size range as the freedom input "slim" keyboard (about the size of a credit card), or the qwerty keyboards you find on a cell phone (the sidekick or MDA, for example).

The advantage over the onscreen keyboard is: you don't take up screen real-estate with it, so you can see the actual thing you're typing in to while you type (unlike the full-screen finger keyboard on the N800).

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That works for me (instead of segragated memory for flashing, or flashing via wifi+web).

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I hadn't heard of it until now. I'll look into it. Thanks :-)


As far as I know/knew, the included headphones don't have a microphone. Am I wrong about that? If the little box on the wire is not just a switch but also a mic, then that would make it "almost exactly the same, functionally, as the iPhone headphones".


Do they work with the N800? I didn't know about them because they're not on the N800's accessory pages (at least, not for the USA store).

And, are any of them also usable as a phone headset? or just for listening?


I just did, thanks :-)


That sounds pretty much perfect.

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Claws-mail keeps me 90% happy. My main desire for a micro-thunderbird is that, when combined with a micro-firefox and a micro-sunbird (or lightning on micro-thunderbird) is that you'd have 1 suite of apps for web/mail/calendar/contacts. And, for me, they'd be the same as what I use on my desktop(s).

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One consequence of my propose button layout would be that it could be more easily used for games. That's not my main reason for the proposal, but it would work (the dpad on left, select on right, and then put the application-specific button on the lower right ... you've got 2 game buttons and an 8way dpad). Though, my specific recommendation of 8way dpads instead of 4way dpads is exactly for game support. If they didn't want to support games at all, then 4way dpads is "good enough".

My main reason was ergonomics. I find the current "dpad+select" to be awkward to use, as I'm always on the verge of accidetly hitting select when I change directions on the dpad. I'd prefer to dpad with one thumb, and select with the other.


I could probably live with that, but I'm not sure that small camera that would have to fit in such a rotating enclosure would be enough for taking decent pictures.


When is Chinook supposed to be out, and where can I more directly read about the future OS releases (is there a spot on the maemo page for that, or are they posted in the OS forums on here?).

I don't either. But I'd like to. And it'd hold a huge library of music and documents that I wouldn't have to clutter up my N800 with.

I'm not a business user either. But I have a desktop at work, a desktop at home, and might someday own a laptop again (though, I think the N800 almost makes that idea obsolete, once I get a bluetooth keyboard). Having to manually keep these things in sync, or remember "oh, I only bookmarked that at work, I guess I'll have to email myself that link", is just annoying and a waste of time. A central sync'ing ability saves that kind of time whether you're a business user or not.


I'll be happy if microb continues to get better and better.


It does look like it does what I want (from what I found out from a previous comment). Sounds like chinook will be a very useful code release.


3G and cell phone ability aren't a major one for me. I'd be just as happy relying upon an external cell phone, if I can use the N800 for the call (my "bluetooth dialer" and "n800 as bluetooth headset" items).


I wasn't aware of them having a microphone. Plus, I also prefer non-ear-buds.



I don't mind having multiple devices that I carry ... such as an N800, a cell phone, and a D.A.V.E. or an iPod ... but I don't want to have to switch among them. With the 2 items I mentioned, I can always use the N800.

Use the N800 for browsing the web and reading email.

I can use an extensive HD store of music, such as the DAVE, but play them through my N800, instead of switching devices.

If a phone call hits my cell phone, the N800s ability to control the phone via bluetooth lets me see who is calling without switching devices. Then I can take the call on the N800 if I want to ... again, without switching devices.

1 control device. 1 set of headphones/headset. But multiple devices that are each specialized for what they do (N800 for user facing stuff, DAVE for storage, phone for interfacing to the wireless WAN).


The things I would use it for would only be used when I'm near AC power anyway. So, I don't mind if the hub+keyboard+card-reader+wired-ethernet is a power drain, because I'll have wall-power at the time.