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sjgadsby 2007-09-20 18:11
Re: Next Gen Tablet
 
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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 76698)
If the little box on the wire is not just a switch but also a mic, then that would make it "almost exactly the same, functionally, as the iPhone headphones".
The box is indeed a microphone.

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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 76698)
Do they work with the N800?
No. Yes. Both.

Nokia hasn't released Bluetooth audio support yet for the Internet tablets; however, they've said that such support is coming. Several Nokia developers work on BlueZ, and folks from Nokia have stated that Nokia, as a company, hate wires, so they aren't pleased that the Internet tablets require so many.

In the mean time, apparently you can get A2DP working with some effort. I think it only works with Kagu at the moment, and it may suck your battery dry, but it's there.

Hopefully, official support from Nokia will come soon.

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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 76698)
And, are any of them also usable as a phone headset? or just for listening?
After reading Nokia's product pages, I'm not clear on that myself.

If not, then this Plantronics headset looks rather nifty, if you're looking to travel light.

johnkzin 2007-09-20 18:18
Re: Next Gen Tablet
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 76664)
I throw my support behind you here. I have no need for a cell phone, and I have no interest in Nokia adding bulk, power drain, additional upfront costs, or ongoing monthly costs to the Internet tablet line for a feature I'll never use.
Just so it's clear: I'm _more_than_happy_ with it being 100% optional. I like the wifi-only aspect of the N800 just fine. But I also want tighter integration between the N800 and the phone I might use as a gateway. If that can't happen, then maybe I would want to use the N800 as a cell phone as well, which also gets you IP via 3G.

Though, I've seen some devices that have wireless IP via GSM or 3G, but not voice call ability. That'd be an interesting option, too.

But, ultimately, yes: 100% optional. I want the option to only use my next gen IT with wifi, and no monthly fee.

pieter_jh 2007-09-20 18:23
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Output to a big screen and proper keyboard - via the USB port? would be high on my wishlist. Then I can dump my laptop completely. PLEASE NOKIA! if you can put TV out on your phones such as the N95 and N93i then I am sure the tablet can get it too? And tablet users would actually USE it!.

johnkzin 2007-09-20 18:24
Re: Next Gen Tablet
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 76709)
and folks from Nokia have stated that Nokia, as a company, hate wires, so they aren't pleased that the Internet tablets require so many.

Does that mean that, some day, the built in FM tuner wont require you to have headphones plugged in?

I didn't put that on my list because the FM tuner is a "neat extra", and not a requirement for me in any way. But, as long as its there, an internal antenna instead of having to attach something external, would be a nice option. Or, maybe, a little bit of an internal antenna, and then use the headphone wire if one is available (for better reception).

johnkzin 2007-09-20 18:25
Re: Next Gen Tablet
 
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Originally Posted by pieter_jh (Post 76720)
Output to a big screen and proper keyboard - via the USB port? would be high on my wishlist. Then I can dump my laptop completely. PLEASE NOKIA! if you can put TV out on your phones such as the N95 and N93i then I am sure the tablet can get it too? And tablet users would actually USE it!.
Have you tried displaying to your desktop/laptop via VNC server? (I did see a VNC server option for the N800, didn't I?)

sjgadsby 2007-09-20 18:56
Re: Next Gen Tablet
 
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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 76721)
But, as long as its there, an internal antenna instead of having to attach something external, would be a nice option. Or, maybe, a little bit of an internal antenna, and then use the headphone wire if one is available (for better reception).
That does sound nifty, but I suspect it would be difficult to devise an internal antenna that's at all useful. I seem to recall that FM antennas should ideally be approximately 60 inches long to cover half a wavelength, with shorter, quarter wavelength lengths possible, but only with reduced reception.

sjgadsby 2007-09-20 19:00
Re: Next Gen Tablet
 
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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 76698)
Do they work with the N800?
I forgot to mention before, bug 667 provides more information on the current state (and future) of A2DP support. It also provides another chance for folks to vote and (hopefully) influence the future of Internet tablet OS development.

johnkzin 2007-09-20 19:30
Re: Next Gen Tablet
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 76735)
That does sound nifty, but I suspect it would be difficult to devise an internal antenna that's at all useful. I seem to recall that FM antennas should ideally be approximately 60 inches long to cover half a wavelength, with shorter, quarter wavelength lengths possible, but only with reduced reception.
Does it have to be a straight line antenna? I've seen tons of little FM radios out there that are built into head phones, MP3 players, etc. So, I wonder if you can make the antenna wind around in a circle or square or something.

But, I'm definitely not an antenna guy.

sjgadsby 2007-09-20 19:56
Re: Next Gen Tablet
 
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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 76738)
Does it have to be a straight line antenna? I've seen tons of little FM radios out there that are built into head phones, MP3 players, etc. So, I wonder if you can make the antenna wind around in a circle or square or something.

But, I'm definitely not an antenna guy.
I think it needs to be a straight line, but I'm not an antenna guy either.

tayedrumma 2007-09-20 20:50
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i second the notion on the straight line... but then again, i too am not an antenna guy


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