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Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)

There's no comparison here.
Full linux experience in Sailfish terminal is way superior than Android's bionic and patches on patches on patches with chroots.

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)

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Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1528434)

1. Updates <-- Use any custom rom if updates are not coming anymore
2. No privacy harmed <-- Use XPrivacy
3. Not crammed with bloatware: choose what you want (fair) <-- Root, and you can uninstall everything you want
4. Root access <-- You can root Android devices as well
5. Where are the advertisements? <-- Root, and you can remove all ads, even inside apps.
6. Not willing to pay a company's 70% profitmargin for harming your privacy, cramming it with bloatware and adds. <-- See all the points above.
7 (possible) android support through Alien Dalvik. <-- Native Android support, instead of half working dalvik.

1. Only if you bought a super duper expensive and popular device which is guaranteed to have a large community behind it. There's still one guy who has been making custom ROMs for my Android tablet for the past six years, but not everyone is that lucky. Even then, you put a whole lot of trust in some random nobody developer on xda-forums ("hello guys I made a new ROM, check it out, right now it doesn't boot though, I also won't show you the source code or the changes I did"). That said I don't think this is that good of a point anyway if you look at how long it takes for Sailfish updates to arrive on the Aqua Fish, but maybe that just has to do with Intex being a terrible company.
2. I'd rather not have to install patches just so my device has a smaller chance of spying on me.
3. Same as 1, you can only get root access to super popular devices because no one bothers with the rest. The only way to get root access is by looking for and abusing a security exploit. Wonderful!
4. Same as 3.
5. Same as 3.
6. Google is an advertising company, you are the product.
7. The only Android applications I've heard of that don't work properly with Alien Dalvik are those that have a hard dependency on the malware Google Play Services, which also don't work on any Android system without Google's proprietary malware. What a coincidence! Besides, the point is that you can run Sailfish, regular GNU/Linux and possibly Android applications, instead of exclusively Android applications and the occasional GNU/Linux application someone bothered to port. Which you can also only use if your device is rooted.

Having to exploit security loopholes to be able to do anything at all... Maybe it floats your boat.

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)

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Originally Posted by eson (Post 1528471)

Exactly how did you do that? I can't get the commands right. I'm stuck on...

Code:

[root@Sailfish nmap]# make install

make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.

https://github.com/nmap/nmap#installing

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)

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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1528467)

Seeing someone equating the UI with the OS makes me feel sad :(

Blame Jolla for that. They themselves describe the gestures as being part of the OS on sailfishos.org

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)

[QUOTE=eson;1528471]Exactly how did you do that? I can't get the commands right. I'm stuck on...

Code:

[root@Sailfish nmap]# make install

make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.

this is all I did;

3292 git clone https://github.com/nmap/nmap.git
3293 cd nmap/
3294 ls
3295 cat README.md
3296 ./configure
3297 make
3298 devel-su

and then 'make install' as root.
It is possible it needs some tools of the make family installed, some that I have set up long long ago already...

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1528496)

It is possible it needs some tools of the make family installed, some that I have set up long long ago already...

I did the same but can't make it work here. Do I need cmake?

Edit:
Ok... got it. I recently did factory reset, so all my compile stuff was gone. Had to install gcc again. Thanks for pointing me into the right direction. :)

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)

Time goes slow while waiting for the release... :)

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)

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Originally Posted by pexi (Post 1528500)

Time goes slow while waiting for the release... :)

Yes, that's why we try to break our system with all kinds of **** we don't need. ;)

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)

Yep.. just made my own on click backup / restore with ssh keys and authorized_keys command restriction. Just because.

Re: Sailfish OS on Sony Xperia (official)

Sony narrows focus, will phase out its 'Premium Standard' range of smartphones

This seems to include the Xperia X and Xperia X Compact. I have no idea how this will affect Jolla's sailfish plans.