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ka9yhd 2017-06-27 00:55

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Jolla does not have many apps. So by not including the app store from Android or a way to use Android apps, Jolla will be limiting the size of their customer base to possibly only people who follow Jolla?

Jedibeeftrix 2017-06-27 08:23

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ka9yhd (Post 1529714)
Jolla does not have many apps. So by not including the app store from Android or a way to use Android apps, Jolla will be limiting the size of their customer base to possibly only people who follow Jolla?

the point being to avoid the goodle ad-revenue machine, that presumably does not preclude using the andoid compatibility layer with a third party android app-store such as aptoid/yandex.

pexi 2017-06-27 09:18

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
I was under the impression that Alien Dalvik is included?

LouisDK 2017-06-27 10:20

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pexi (Post 1529725)
I was under the impression that Alien Dalvik is included?

Jolla plan to include Alien Dalvik in their Sony Xperia X builds.

But they'll not include the Play store. They offer Aptiode from their store instead. Otherwise you might be able to unofficially install an old version of Play store on the device if you want to.

salamisami 2017-06-27 16:50

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisDK (Post 1529726)
Jolla plan to include Alien Dalvik in their Sony Xperia X builds.

But they'll not include the Play store. They offer Aptiode from their store instead. Otherwise you might be able to unofficially install an old version of Play store on the device if you want to.

Personally I'm happy as long as Whatsapp is supported :rolleyes:

meet.vino 2017-06-27 17:13

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
And Hike!:):)

ka9yhd 2017-06-27 19:07

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisDK (Post 1529726)
Jolla plan to include Alien Dalvik in their Sony Xperia X builds.

But they'll not include the Play store. They offer Aptiode from their store instead. Otherwise you might be able to unofficially install an old version of Play store on the device if you want to.

I did not know about Aptiode..........Thanks.

meldolion 2017-06-28 07:42

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
check also the yalp store, it provide access to the apps out of the play store. The majority of german local apps are only available via play store and not any other android market. Therefore, i cant always follow the opinion of some guys here.

pexi 2017-06-28 08:07

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
What is stopping to install play store? I remember it was not a problem with jolla 1, just needed some handywork.

Hensch 2017-06-28 08:30

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
There is no problem installing Play Store (it's preinstalled on Aqua Fish), but there is a problem downloading or updating applications as Google is excluding us.

I removed all gapps yesterday in the evening. I found out, all apps I'm using do not need the Google services. I'm fine with it. If they don't let me install apps they don't deserve it to have their services on my phone.

gaelic 2017-06-28 13:34

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
So its end of June; no announcment, not even an announcement about an announcement. Public Relations at its worst.

Jaracz 2017-06-28 13:44

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hensch (Post 1529777)
There is no problem installing Play Store (it's preinstalled on Aqua Fish), but there is a problem downloading or updating applications as Google is excluding us.

I removed all gapps yesterday in the evening. I found out, all apps I'm using do not need the Google services. I'm fine with it. If they don't let me install apps they don't deserve it to have their services on my phone.

I also don't want to have all this google services crap on my phone.. Uninstalled some time ago and using APKpure without any problems since then.. It looks, like APKpure is mirroring the apps from Google Play quite regularly...

meldolion 2017-06-28 13:46

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
check the minutes of the collaboration meeting, they said the blog is already written and in review phase. as the content is somehow critical, there need to be several persons looking over it.

mp107 2017-06-28 14:14

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaracz (Post 1529781)
I also don't want to have all this google services crap on my phone.. Uninstalled some time ago and using APKpure without any problems since then.. It looks, like APKpure is mirroring the apps from Google Play quite regularly...

I live without gapps for about 2-3 years. So yes, it is possible. :D

Only the pop-up in some apps annoys me.
Most of the applications still do work but I have to close a dozen or two of pop-ups.
Moreover, in some of those apps I have to keep out of choosing OK by clicking somewhere outside of the pop-up to do not crash the app.
What a malicious piece of code. :mad:

bnwg 2017-06-28 14:35

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Finding apk or installing it is not a problem. The big huddle is google service on which more and more apps are relying (or google makes it like this).

This is where the android runtime in BB10 became less and less useful although there's hack or tweak to remove the google service dependency.

I don't know how alien dalvik works and handles but I really do hope it won't cause too much inconvenience to use android app properly.

I use iOS, Android, Window 10 mobile, BB10, Sailfish (for a short time) and Meego, but wired that I like the OS the most in the reserve order (Window 10 mobile is out of the pic).

meet.vino 2017-06-28 17:16

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meldolion (Post 1529782)
check the minutes of the collaboration meeting, they said the blog is already written and in review phase. as the content is somehow critical, there need to be several persons looking over it.

Can you pls give us the link? Or extract of anything related to the update 10.1.1.12?

nieldk 2017-06-28 17:34

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1529788)
Can you pls give us the link? Or extract of anything related to the update 10.1.1.12?

10.1.1.12

I missed a few there 😁

herdem09 2017-06-28 17:41

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1529788)
Can you pls give us the link? Or extract of anything related to the update 10.1.1.12?

http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-m...08.00.log.html

catbus 2017-06-28 19:06

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
So?

What is going on? Nothing?

Dave999 2017-06-28 19:25

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1529792)
So?

What is going on? Nothing?

Yeah, Another year has passed an still nothing. I heard it might appear during July.

benny1967 2017-06-28 20:26

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meldolion (Post 1529782)
check the minutes of the collaboration meeting, they said the blog is already written and in review phase. as the content is somehow critical, there need to be several persons looking over it.


"As the content is somehow critical"... This doesn't sound like I'm gonna like it. Not at all. Probably yet another "it might have been that we put all our effort into the future possibility..."

richie 2017-06-28 21:08

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1529794)
"As the content is somehow critical"... This doesn't sound like I'm gonna like it. Not at all. Probably yet another "it might have been that we put all our effort into the future possibility..."

There were some smiley faces on IRC during the meeting, so I assume it will be positive.

Feathers McGraw 2017-06-29 06:20

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richie (Post 1529798)
There were some smiley faces on IRC during the meeting, so I assume it will be positive.

I really hope so, we've been waiting for some good news for a very long time.

Remember when they said Fairphone 2 would be officially supported?

meldolion 2017-06-29 07:27

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
ok it was not critical: see the exact wording:
"08:32:58 <Jaymzz_> I'm pushing to get the post out ASAP, but since it's a rather sensitive matter, it needs many extra eyes to read it and approve it first"

Venemo 2017-06-29 07:52

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meldolion (Post 1529809)
ok it was not critical: see the exact wording:
"08:32:58 <Jaymzz_> I'm pushing to get the post out ASAP, but since it's a rather sensitive matter, it needs many extra eyes to read it and approve it first"

I could imagine how James would feel if he saw how you guys take apart every one of his words.

pexi 2017-06-29 08:29

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 1529811)
I could imagine how James would feel if he saw how you guys take apart every one of his words.

Only paparazzis missing :)

Hensch 2017-06-29 08:51

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Everyone can view the logs, so they have to live with it. And I think that's exactly the reason why they have to approve the blog news before posting them. ;)

lantern 2017-06-29 08:55

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Wonder if they really gon' post on the very last day of Q2 :)

pexi 2017-06-29 09:30

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Finger is on the trigger already.. Xperia X order goes in day 0. And when the higher end model comes out it's gonna be upgrade time.

Hensch 2017-06-29 10:40

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
At this time you should have your finger on F5 :D

I don't know if I would buy a X as my Aqua Fish is pretty new and performing well for me. I'm curious which models come next. I've got a Xperia Z in the drawer... Let's see and hope that the release of SFOS for the X will be a big success for Jolla.

vansid 2017-06-29 10:46

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Hi, long-time lurker, first-time poster.

I've been an avid Nokia/Jolla fan for quite a number of years. I had the N700, the N800, the N810, the N900, and the Jolla phone. I've still got the N900 and the Jolla phone, but I don't use them much because I live in the U.S. now and the Jolla phone only works 2G (and the N900 is really showing it's age in the software department).

If it makes anyone feel better, I bought an Xperia X and I'm really hoping that Jolla comes out with some good news this week. I've got the new phone sitting on my desk, ready to flash. I suppose if it doesn't happen, I can just sell it...

lantern 2017-06-29 12:32

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
https://blog.jolla.com/sony-xperia-project-update/

PamNor 2017-06-29 12:41

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
https://blog.jolla.com/sony-xperia-project-update/

Hensch 2017-06-29 12:47

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Still no release, BUT some nice and also important facts in this post.

In short: CBeta members will get the image within the next weeks. It seems like they want to provide the image bundled with an easy to use installer, which is very nice in my opinion.

lantern 2017-06-29 12:58

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
And this option probably will be just exec'ing 'fastboot flash X' commands in recovery mode.

Feathers McGraw 2017-06-29 13:01

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Annoying, the link to the Xperia X in the article doesn't work - they used this link:

https://www.sonymobile.com/global-en...specifications

but they should have used this:

https://www.sonymobile.com/global-en...specifications

At least they must have something ready to release to beta testers... I guess how long we have left to wait will depend on how many bugs they find!

Hariainm 2017-06-29 13:03

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
So... no Xperia X Compact? :(

Dave999 2017-06-29 13:05

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Told you it would be an epic wait :D

My next bet:
Next step will be that they changing target device to get more time ;) like they did with screens for tablet.

The wait is on.

Hensch 2017-06-29 13:11

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
As they wrote they want to hold the number of community devices low. Devices with similar chipsets to the X have a higher chance to get a port of SFOS than others. If the X compact is very similar (I don't know), chances are high. That's what I got from the post.

meloferz 2017-06-29 13:20

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
I feel confused about this 🤔https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ebc13eb176.jpg

Enviado desde mi Xperia Z2 mediante Tapatalk


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