Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

I'm from Spain, you know some reliable/safe site/seller for the purchase of a xperia x rose gold 64gb (new) (not to put sailfish)

Thanks

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

https://together.jolla.com/question/...ty-by-country/ ;)

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

I would also look on ebay.
https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from...F5121&_sacat=0

I found mine for 199,- EUR in "like New" condition. The box was opened, but anything else was like new....

And refurbished you might get it even for 150,- EUR

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Sony-Xperia-X...AAAOSwQVZZgfx9

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

What about the z1c?

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

You can request a commuinty port if you want to: https://together.jolla.com/question/...port-requests/

But I dopt the Xperia X port can be ported to the Z1c since it's a 32 bit arm cpu :)

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

A bit of a deceptive title with "Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices" :P

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

The higher the fewer.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

The higher what the fewer what?

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

The higher the deception the fewer the devices actually supported?

(typing tais sitä Xperia X Android, it Santa To tuen alla the sorsa To fi nisu :(... curse_you_swiftkey!)

Where to tuon Off Word correction?

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

That's exactly why I prefer HWKBDs... Al least the typos you make are your own :D

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Can't remove SwiftKey, but adding English support solves the problem :)
EDIT: and can turn off word correction in SwiftKey settings, was thrown off track as there's another word correction setting that was already turned off:confused:

SwiftKey wants to capitalize itself :D

Waiting for SFOS....

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Never had any auto "correction" with on screen keyboard, only auto Blundering... Messes up with names and terminology

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Thanks LouisDK and explit.
Finally i bought it on ebay.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

You can't remove SwiftKey but you can disable it or just install another keyboard such as Google's gboard or the Hackers Keyboard which has no predictive typing. I'm sure there's a gazillion other keyboards to choose from.

Personally, I can't stand SwiftKey. Usually it's gboard for me.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

There are prerooted kernel there and debloating script.
Look at xda.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Just don't forget to disable the 'word prediction improvement' which sends whole sentences you're typing to their servers to analyse your typing habits... that's the case for all the major android keyboards

It's unbelievable how many hours you can (have to) spend on searching android system and apps for trackers, analytics and home calling - and still you have to trust that opting out does really stop it ...

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This wait is making meego crazy. I know it’s sailfish to want more, but my n900s Maemo isn't QT anymore.
Perhaps the delay is because of Moblins(distant cousins of gremlins)!
… In any case, back to farming...
# yes $(zypper moo) > cowFarm.txt

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Quotes like this are driving me crazy:

From: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-m...-23-08.03.html

The SailfishOS build for Xperia X already seems to be way more stable than SailfishOS was in its early stages.

Back then they released the Jolla phone anyway to get something out and show they were serious.

I hope see a public installer for Xperia X soon and don't have to wait for it to be grandma-friendly.

That said major bugs like this could be blocking a public release: https://together.jolla.com/question/...nitial-reboot/

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

So far we already know that video recording does not work. So this is one of the reasons for the delay.
http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sa...08-23.log.html

Also, development of the infrastructure to allow the installation of pre-paid applications could be taking time (It was mentioned in a previous collaboration meeting). I think this will be used for the installation of alien dalvik and exchange support etc. after flashing the OS image.

I wish Jolla was more transparent on what is going on internally. It's been 7 days since they have told a blog update is in works. This is terrible communication.

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http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-m...-23-08.03.html

Alien Dalvik [on Xperia X] will be based on the 4.4.4 (sledges, 08:54:10)

What?

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

As far as I understand it, the problem is that Google changed a lot in Android 5. The current Alien Dalvik can not be adapted easily to newer version, but needs major adjustments.
Jolla probably decided to focus on providing a stable Xperia X Image first before tackling this issue (and preventing having an additional source of errors during that).

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Makes sense but that's quite a bit behind :(

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As long as it runs the handful of Android apps I'm using, I'm happy. None of them from Play Store.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Not quite, its probably not even really up to Jolla at all considering that they license Alien-Dalvik from Myriad Group. In this instance I'm not sure that Myriad really care about Alien-Dalvik that much any more and so they aren't updating it, and if Jolla wants them to they will probably have to pay for the work.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Which is why it's a better bet to help get Anbox working on Sailfish, and once it's stable enough, I'm sure Jolla would consider replacing Alien Dalvik with Anbox outright.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

What are the current issues with Anbox on Sailfish OS?

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

It requires numerous kernel patches to work, more patches for older kernels ie. 3.4 kernel of which we haven't managed to get it booting on, yet. The only device so far that has got Anbox booting is the Jolla C.

As for the image itself running on Sailfish, the issues are no input, no keyboard, and no navigation bar.

My next phone will most likely be the XZ1, when that comes out my Nexus 5 will be free to freely test and work on Anbox. Not yet sure which to do first, hybris-ify Android Oreo in order to get Sailfish on the XZ1 or Anbox on Sailfish, probably the latter, as I know more about the inner workings of Android (I have a potential fix for the latter two anbox image issues) than I do about hybris.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

So that means Anbox would only be able to work on devices that have a newer kernel then?

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

No, we just need to find out why it's not booting, and fix it. The main problem why it's not working is LXC might be missing some things in the kernel which we could patch in, or it's not configured correctly.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Blog Post is done:

Introducing Sailfish X and all the details you want to know


https://blog.jolla.com/sailfishx/

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Nice, ordered :)

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

I ordered on the 8th of August already. :D

What does this mean?

"SW updates for one year, after which a continuation program will follow"

Do you have to purchase updates again?

EDIT:
Someone on TJ is already asking for it, let's wait for a response.

https://together.jolla.com/question/...ng-sailfish-x/

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Why start sales before the image is ready? What's the point for the customer?

PS Going to buy only when they announce F5122 dual-sim support...

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Hopefully bluetooth will be fixed until 27th Sept. Else, release date and 50€ price is good news.
Propably veskuh should take a lesson in close up screen recordings from mighty leszek!
I watched for sfos porn and got a talking sailor :D

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

I read that as timeframe for jollas commitment to this "port".
After 12 month they will stop optimizing hardware Adaption and continue general support as on all other devices?

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Great.

My only concerns at this point are the bluetooth functionality, and Jolla slipping the actual release date (especially the US one since that seems to be 'soon' status compared to other countries).

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

the bluetooth we can probably fix, unfortunately the kernel support for these broadcom combo chips isn't particularly amazing...

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

"SW updates for one year, after which a continuation program will follow" One more blog post with vague explanations. This is definitely Jolla.

I remember Jolla mentioning one of the reasons for their decision on providing image to the consumer instead of devices with preinstalled SFOS was expanding the number of countries they can make Sailfish X available. But now we learn that there is still a limitation in terms of availability. Although I cannot find sound reasons for such decision, I think I will just stop trying to understand Jolla and sell the X I have bought a month ago.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

that probably has to do with EU bureaucratic regulations. i can't understand why they can't setup bitcoin payments and accept money from every single place in the world

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And.... For those within the Tablet refund program: there will be a way to utilize Tablet refund as payment for Sailfish X. We’ll update on that closer to the sales start day, stay tuned!