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nieldk 2017-09-21 19:16
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by brunelli (Post 1534862)
Well, you said, and I quote:



I don't see a mention of Wine.

What I want to say is: If you use Linux, there's no need to search for a Windows computer to use XperiFirm in. Install the Linux version and, if it runs, use it! It can't hurt your computer or your Xperia X in any way, as its only purpose is to download the firmwares.
Well apologizes for that. I swear I wrote Wine .
Yes Wine (mono) will work (I use that also)
Personally I prefer that, since Linux is just better for everything imaginable when it comes to play with this.

epninety 2017-09-22 00:31
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1534839)
So heres a first attempt at a port for the X
And very exciting it is too! :D:D:D

Seems to work really nicely - based on a few minutes playing I'd be tempted to stick it in my pocket and go out for the day.

As expected : no BT, terminal is slow.

Less expected : Camera app seems flaky - hung a couple of times. Autofocus at macro range is borked. Pulls in to excellent focus, pauses, then goes out of focus before taking the shot.

Totally Unexpected : Recognises a usb memory stick plugged into the X. Doesn't mount as exfat is unrecognised filesystem, but thats just a setup issue :D:D:D

Just to note : No double tap to wake. Camera h/w button inop. Couldn't mount sdcard formatted as vfat or ext4

jurop88 2017-09-22 06:18
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by epninety (Post 1534875)

As expected : no BT, terminal is slow.

Less expected : Camera app seems flaky - hung a couple of times. Autofocus at macro range is borked. Pulls in to excellent focus, pauses, then goes out of focus before taking the shot.

Totally Unexpected : Recognises a usb memory stick plugged into the X. Doesn't mount as exfat is unrecognised filesystem, but thats just a setup issue :D:D:D

Just to note : No double tap to wake. Camera h/w button inop. Couldn't mount sdcard formatted as vfat or ext4
I can add, GPS is not working. Phone is already pleasant to use. No SIM card until now here, since I have no nanoSIM available

eson 2017-09-22 12:38
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jurop88 (Post 1534879)
I can add...
So can I...
Format memory card don't work, and I really don't understand the camera settings from Settings/Apps/Camera...
https://minfil.org/k0o04ecfb1/Screen...170922_001.png
Well, it might have to do with the SFOS version 2.1.1.26 being obsolete for the X?

romu 2017-09-22 13:30
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Means 16/9 (image format) 8MP (definition).

meemorph 2017-09-22 14:14
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1534839)
So heres a first attempt at a port for the X

https://mega.nz/#!T45hxTiR!5lOmNEmvc...QZtJDnG-5pH554

download
https://github.com/EpicAOSP/make_ext...in/make_ext4fs
https://developer.sonymobile.com/dow...w-6-0-1-loire/

and place in same folder as flash.sh

run flash.sh and follow instructions, you need to also download this and place it in same folder

happy flashings, major disclaimers if it breaks :P
... the make_ext4fs did not work for me on debian stretch 64bit. I took the one from the debian package "android-tools-fsutils".

aspergerguy 2017-09-22 14:19
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by meemorph (Post 1534923)
... the make_ext4fs did not work for me on debian stretch 64bit. I took the one from the debian package "android-tools-fsutils".
Sure this makes sense to some extracted from flash.sh
HTML Code:
MAKE_EXT4FS=make_ext4fs

if [ ! -f "$MAKE_EXT4FS" ]; then
  echo "Please download the '$MAKE_EXT4FS' binary tool supplied by Jolla into this directory"
  echo "or build one yourself:"
  echo "git clone https://android.googlesource.com/platform/system/extras"
  echo "cd extras/ext4_utils"
  echo "git checkout 67bf7cb2c7487b2a93af8e2d9903842e8fe51f69 -b no-android-deps"
  echo "gcc [^se]*.c sha1.c sparse_crc32.c ext4_utils.c extent.c -o $MAKE_EXT4FS -lz"
  echo "cp $MAKE_EXT4FS $(pwd)"
  echo "cd $(pwd)"
  exit 1

feedme 2017-09-22 19:08
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
I got Xperia x to my hands today.
Not paid tooo much attention to all specs before, so realised only now that there is NFC. Any info if it will it be ok with Sailfish?

The hardware is fast and nice! Just waiting to get SF to it.

BluesLee 2017-09-22 20:08
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
My first post with Sony X and SFOS. I am a little bit disappointed coming from a Nexus 5 with SFOS.

Overall speed doesnt seem to be better than the Nexus 5, apps are starting slowly, battery life is good so far, camera as indicated above instable regarding focus, i miss the Jolla store, videos on websites have audio only.

I think many issues might be related to the specific build, lets wait for Jolla.

eson 2017-09-22 20:18
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by feedme (Post 1534942)
Just waiting to get SF to it.
We all do, and some did... :)
https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...postcount=1113
...of course we all have to wait for the official x release, but that will not stop us from trying. :)

jurop88 2017-09-22 21:09
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1534944)
Overall speed doesnt seem to be better than the Nexus 5, apps are starting slowly, battery life is good so far, camera as indicated above instable regarding focus, i miss the Jolla store, videos on websites have audio only.
If you installed SFOS using circulating images I suppose only two 'small' cores are active, hence suboptimal performances ;)

mariusmssj 2017-09-22 21:10
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1534944)
My first post with Sony X and SFOS. I am a little bit disappointed coming from a Nexus 5 with SFOS.

Overall speed doesnt seem to be better than the Nexus 5, apps are starting slowly, battery life is good so far, camera as indicated above instable regarding focus, i miss the Jolla store, videos on websites have audio only.

I think many issues might be related to the specific build, lets wait for Jolla.
That's one of my gripes with SFOS it feels quite sluggish and does not seem to utilise the hardware that it runs on.

jurop88 2017-09-22 21:34
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1534949)
That's one of my gripes with SFOS it feels quite sluggish and does not seem to utilise the hardware that it runs on.
I cannot say I have a lot of experience since my active phone is still my good old friend N900. I have to say that I've been using the XperiaX with last Nougat update as a Tablet at home. Installed first SailfishOS image three days ago and I liked the SO a lot more than Android.
Today I compiled my own image and tried the mod for having all 6 cores working, things looks really promising!

jakibaki 2017-09-22 21:48
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1534949)
That's one of my gripes with SFOS it feels quite sluggish and does not seem to utilise the hardware that it runs on.
I don't know about the build that was posted here but the build that I use only has 2 cpu-cores enabled by default.

I needed to edit the /init.loire.pwr.rc file and add this under the init-section to enable all of them. (All credit for this go to abranson from the #sailfishos-porters irc).

deprecated 2017-09-22 22:33
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1534949)
That's one of my gripes with SFOS it feels quite sluggish and does not seem to utilise the hardware that it runs on.
It does on Nexus 5. It's my estimation that these preliminary community builds for Xperia X are only utilizing one or two cores, and aren't completely optimized.

Personally, I'm going to wait for the official release, even though I've got an F5121 in hand right now. :)

mousse04 2017-09-22 22:34
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Guys,

how to install a store with the image provided here : https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...postcount=1113
?

bnwg 2017-09-23 02:29
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1534944)
My first post with Sony X and SFOS. I am a little bit disappointed coming from a Nexus 5 with SFOS.

Overall speed doesnt seem to be better than the Nexus 5, apps are starting slowly, battery life is good so far, camera as indicated above instable regarding focus, i miss the Jolla store, videos on websites have audio only.

I think many issues might be related to the specific build, lets wait for Jolla.
That's quite sad to learn that.
I feel my oneplus x much smoother and faster than my Nexus 5. Downside is I can't get AD work on oneplus x. I suspect it lacks of one or two drivers to make it work.
In fact I expect Xperoa X should have same or better performance than oneplus x as they both have 3G ram but Xperia x has 64bit CPU compared to 32bit from oneplus x.
Will keep an eye on the development

Sent from my ONE E1001 using Tapatalk

mariusmssj 2017-09-23 07:04
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakibaki (Post 1534952)
I don't know about the build that was posted here but the build that I use only has 2 cpu-cores enabled by default.

I needed to edit the /init.loire.pwr.rc file and add this under the init-section to enable all of them. (All credit for this go to abranson from the #sailfishos-porters irc).
So the Xperia X has 2x ARM Cortex A72 and 4x ARM Cortex A53 cores. Would there need to be a sophisticated kernel code to utilise the 2 low power ones on small tasks & running idle but use 4 cores for intense tasks. Or is the kernel already good enough but just needs telling that these cores exist?

jakibaki 2017-09-23 07:24
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1534965)
So the Xperia X has 2x ARM Cortex A72 and 4x ARM Cortex A53 cores. Would there need to be a sophisticated kernel code to utilise the 2 low power ones on small tasks & running idle but use 4 cores for intense tasks. Or is the kernel already good enough but just needs telling that these cores exist?
That's already how it works with the patch I posted afaik. At least it disables some cores when in idle-state.

p2x3yzling 2017-09-23 10:12
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Haven't used Sailfish OS for years, but bought an Xperia X to give it a go and I have been really pleased how well things are already working - even before the 'final' paid release.

However, there is one thing I have noticed about this release - the repos don't seem to have python3 & pyotherside available? Anyway to resolve this? One of the reasons I wanted to switch to Sailfish OS was it seemed like the best platform to do mobile python GUI development.

mousse04 2017-09-23 13:49
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1534839)
So heres a first attempt at a port for the X

https://mega.nz/#!T45hxTiR!5lOmNEmvc...QZtJDnG-5pH554

download
https://github.com/EpicAOSP/make_ext...in/make_ext4fs
https://developer.sonymobile.com/dow...w-6-0-1-loire/

and place in same folder as flash.sh

run flash.sh and follow instructions, you need to also download this and place it in same folder

happy flashings, major disclaimers if it breaks :P
Hi,

Thanks for the build. Is there a reason why I don't have any store installd?

jakibaki 2017-09-23 14:47
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by p2x3yzling (Post 1534970)
Haven't used Sailfish OS for years, but bought an Xperia X to give it a go and I have been really pleased how well things are already working - even before the 'final' paid release.

However, there is one thing I have noticed about this release - the repos don't seem to have python3 & pyotherside available? Anyway to resolve this? One of the reasons I wanted to switch to Sailfish OS was it seemed like the best platform to do mobile python GUI development.
Python3 is provided by the python3-base package and pyotherside by the pyotherside-qml-plugin-python3-qt5 package both of which I can download without any problems using this image but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be that way on the other images. Did you do pkcon refresh before trying to install the packages?

nieldk 2017-09-23 15:09
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mousse04 (Post 1534975)
Hi,

Thanks for the build. Is there a reason why I don't have any store installd?
Wild guess
It’s not approved by Jolla
Perhaps because there will in a week or so be an “official” purchable version 😂 💯

jurop88 2017-09-23 15:14
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mousse04
Hi,

Thanks for the build. Is there a reason why I don't have any store installd?
The first community image released 'in the wild' had some issues to to old configurations. More recent ones have the store available.

m4r0v3r 2017-09-23 15:39
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
The reason it doesn't have the store installed is just badness on my part, uploading a new image now. Think I'll make a separate thread to make life easier finding links

mousse04 2017-09-23 15:43
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1534983)
The reason it doesn't have the store installed is just badness on my part, uploading a new image now. Think I'll make a separate thread to make life easier finding links
Actually, I was able to install official Jolla apps by using pckon utility but didn't try yet Jolla store...

Thanks anyway.

Will try your latest image ;)

Agree on creating a new thread.

m4r0v3r 2017-09-23 16:42
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mousse04 (Post 1534984)
Actually, I was able to install official Jolla apps by using pckon utility but didn't try yet Jolla store...

Thanks anyway.

Will try your latest image ;)

Agree on creating a new thread.
tis done :)

p2x3yzling 2017-09-24 20:06
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakibaki (Post 1534977)
Python3 is provided by the python3-base package and pyotherside by the pyotherside-qml-plugin-python3-qt5 package both of which I can download without any problems using this image but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be that way on the other images. Did you do pkcon refresh before trying to install the packages?
Many thanks for this! This image seems to be working much better!

alfmar 2017-09-25 08:33
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Sailfish X preorders start in two days...

maximilian1st 2017-09-25 12:58
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Short article on XDA about SailfishOS on Xperia X
https://www.xda-developers.com/sailf...x-build-guide/

mousse04 2017-09-25 14:40
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Does anyone know why double tap is deactivated?

Is the Build community instruction, it is written :

"Double-tap to wake is deactivated. Ask on IRC for more info"

So, anyone has asked for info?

maximilian1st 2017-09-25 14:47
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mousse04 (Post 1535121)
Does anyone know why double tap is deactivated?

Is the Build community instruction, it is written :

"Double-tap to wake is deactivated. Ask on IRC for more info"

So, anyone has asked for info?
We're all waiting for you to ask ;-p
You might have more luck on the community thread though.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=99875

mousse04 2017-09-25 15:01
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maximilian1st (Post 1535122)
We're all waiting for you to ask ;-p
You might have more luck on the community thread though.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=99875
Actually, I didn't want to post there as the thread is for the community build. Here, the question is more about the official SailfishOS port for the X ...

lantern 2017-09-25 16:04
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mousse04 (Post 1535121)
Does anyone know why double tap is deactivated?
https://github.com/mer-hybris/androi...8d5a8d8f9cd7d8

alfmar 2017-09-26 08:49
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Get ready for September!
Here are the hard facts you need to know:

Sales start date: tomorrow, September 27, 2017

Product: Sailfish OS image to flash to your Xperia device – our target is to have the downloadable image ready by October 11

Let's go!!

r0kk3rz 2017-09-26 09:34
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mousse04 (Post 1535121)
Does anyone know why double tap is deactivated?

Is the Build community instruction, it is written :

"Double-tap to wake is deactivated. Ask on IRC for more info"

So, anyone has asked for info?
It interferes with the device sleeping and seems to cause considerable battery drain.

The sony device im porting also has a clearpad touchscreen with this feature and so I wanted to test it out.

lantern 2017-09-26 10:00
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
On android it works ok.

r0kk3rz 2017-09-26 10:32
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1535199)
On android it works ok.
sure, but the sleep / wake cycle of sailfish is completely different to that of android, im sure its fixable its just a question of development

benny1967 2017-09-26 13:41
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alfmar (Post 1535188)
Sales start date: tomorrow, September 27, 2017

Product: Sailfish OS image to flash to your Xperia device – our target is to have the downloadable image ready by October 11
Dear lazyweb, have they ever explained why they start "selling" it before there's a chance to download it? I mean... why would anybody pay on Sept. 27th if I can as well pay on Oct 11th?

mrsellout 2017-09-26 13:47
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1535209)
Dear lazyweb, have they ever explained why they start "selling" it before there's a chance to download it? I mean... why would anybody pay on Sept. 27th if I can as well pay on Oct 11th?
Many will be paying out of tablet refunds, others will be eager out of excitement or just to avoid issues on the 11th.

From Jolla's perspective, aside from getting money in early, they can deal with any issues on the payment side asap.


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