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m4r0v3r

2017-11-02 20:52

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1538088)

Why no OTA updates?

got a device and wanna help? i need someone to test the latest build community build and my X is my daily driver

Dave999

2017-11-02 23:13

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1538089)

got a device and wanna help? i need someone to test the latest build community build and my X is my daily driver

Will that be sent over the air or why do you ask?

Ahti30708

2017-11-03 07:16

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenix (Post 1538042)

I suspect the access to the proprietary apps repos (aliendalvik & xt9) are restricted / allowed based on your Jolla Account (but didn't test that).

I added the mer-tools repo manually to receive sudo (for WiFi switching). Also, does someone knows what the disabled "home" repo is supposed to be?

Thanks. I added the repos with ssu ar, and there doesn't seem to be a way to force them to be global. Adaptation0 and adaptation1 get mangled, they are OK in /etc/ssu/ssu.ini but ssu repos lists them as
adaptation0 ... https://releases.jolla.com/releases/...tion-/armv7hl/
adaptation1 ... https://releases.jolla.com/releases/...tion-/armv7hl/

* * *

A test install of Here We Go (and apkd) gives an error message of missing dependency libsystemsettings.so.0
In /usr/lib
libsystemsettings.so.1 -> libsystemsettings.so.1.0.0
libsystemsettings.so.1.0 -> libsystemsettings.so.1.0.0
libsystemsettings.so.1.0.0
linking libsystemsettings.so.0 -> libsystemsettings.so.1.0.0 doesn't work, neither does copying the file from Jolla 1.

pkcon search name libsystemsettings
Installed jolla-settings-system-0.11.66.1-10.90.2.jolla.armv7hl System settings plugin
Available jolla-settings-system-0.12.5-10.89.1.jolla.armv7hl System settings plugin
Installed nemo-qml-plugin-systemsettings-0.2.29.1-1.38.1.armv7hl System settings plugin for Nemo Mobile
Available nemo-qml-plugin-systemsettings-0.2.32-1.37.1.armv7hl System settings plugin for Nemo Mobile

* * *

The "home" repository is a placeholder.
https://together.jolla.com/question/...atest_armv7hl/
"The repository is just there because it's config is prepared in /etc/ssu/ssu.ini as an example how a home repo could be configured and how to use variables in the config. Honeybadger is just a placeholder value of the %(user) variable, for an user name."

LouisDK

2017-11-03 07:42

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1538088)

Why no OTA updates?

Jolla have stated that since 2.1.3.7 is only released for early adopters regular Sailfish X users have to wait until 2.1.3 is released to all to get the update OTA.

jurop88

2017-11-03 09:33

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1538089)

got a device and wanna help? i need someone to test the latest build community build and my X is my daily driver

Hi, X here available for testing, still on the N900 as daily driver

n-mi	2017-11-03 09:44

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicidal_orange (Post 1538086)

Regular X works, the X dual sim also works with a couple of tweaks.

The Compact should have a community build soon and you can probably buy the official X version and use the paid features with it.

You're the first person I've seen mention the Performance and it's a completely different chipset so probably best to avoid it for now...

Thanks for this info :)

My J1 just had a crack on the screen (but it's working fine for now). I think I'll need to change my phone sooner than I was expecting, so I'm trying to make up all the news I missed in the Maemo/Sailfish world since last year, and I'm looking at the Xperia which is the best (only?) available option to buy right now.

If I understand what I read, only the dual-sim has 64GB flash and a micro-sd slot ? I don't need 2 sims (I have only one contract), but I'd really prefer 64GB and a micro-sd slot.

What are the tweaks needed to make the dual-sim run with Sailfish X ? Are there any statements about planning to bring official support for the dual-sim version ?

Fellfrosch

2017-11-03 10:28

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by n-mi (Post 1538102)

Thanks for this info :)

If I understand what I read, only the dual-sim has 64GB flash and a micro-sd slot ? I don't need 2 sims (I have only one contract), but I'd really prefer 64GB and a micro-sd slot.

Yes and No:
Yes, only the Dual-Sim has 64 GB
No to: only the Dual-Sim has Micro-SD Slot. That's also there on the normal one.

aspergerguy

2017-11-03 12:52

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by n-mi (Post 1538102)

What are the tweaks needed to make the dual-sim run with Sailfish X?

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1061

mariusmssj

2017-11-03 13:54

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicidal_orange (Post 1538115)

If you only plan on using one sim and the SD you won't need the tweaks and the official image will work for you already. Not sure why they haven't made it official...

Without the tweak my F5122 did not recognise any sim cards in any of the slots

suicidal_orange

2017-11-03 16:33

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1538116)

Without the tweak my F5122 did not recognise any sim cards in any of the slots

That's a pretty good reason not to make it official! Noted and inaccurate post deleted...

maximilian1st

2017-11-03 17:42

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1538116)

Without the tweak my F5122 did not recognise any sim cards in any of the slots

Without the tweak, mine only recognized one SIM card and now after the update it only shows one SIM at the top. Before the update it showed an empty signal bar for the second potential SIM card.

Heik	2017-11-03 19:37

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximilian1st (Post 1538121)

Without the tweak, mine only recognized one SIM card and now after the update it only shows one SIM at the top. Before the update it showed an empty signal bar for the second potential SIM card.

After update I had to modify again

/default.prop
by adding

Code:

    persist.multisim.config=dsds

    persist.radio.multisim.config=dsds

    ro.telephony.default_network=9,1

As far as I remember,
/etc/ofono/ril_subscription.conf

had kept the modifications in update,

For me, F5122 recognized the 1st SIM without any modification.

nupdyxa

2017-11-03 23:15

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 1536514)

You definitely want OSM Scout Server + modRana or Poor Maps. That gives you offline map rendering, routing and POI search with global coverage. :)

Quite a bit of work went into all this. ;)

Corresponding threads:
OSM Scout Server
modRana
Poor Maps

I got an OSM Scout Server, modRana installed. Linked offline maps to an SD card (ext4 formatted) location with few downloaded maps. Set modRana to use OSM Scout Server as map source. Just not getting anything on the modRana screen (white background with marker in the center). In modRana, under options->Map it shows the following path:
/home/nemo/.local/share/harbor-modrana/maps. Should that be changed to point to the actual sd card location e.g. /media/sdcard/<Card_ID>/Maps.OSM? If so, can someone tell me how (softlink etc)?
Thanks very much...

rinigus

2017-11-04 07:03

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by nupdyxa (Post 1538130)

The path shown in modRana should correspond to the cache of modRana. So, that can stay as it is.

Sounds like you don't get connection between modRana and OSM Scout Server. If you haven't enabled automatic start of OSM Scout Server, you would have to run OSM Scout Server in the background. For debugging purposes, start OSM Scout Server, minimize it, and open modRana again. Wait a bit and, if you don't get any maps, then go back
to OSM Scout Server and check the logs. If the connection works, it should display few access requests on the main screen.

Note that there is a user manual that may help you to set it up with modRana or Poor Maps: https://rinigus.github.io/osmscout-server/en/

Note 2: at this moment, if I remember correctly, released modRana does not support default router in OSM Scout Server. The corresponding patch has been merged to modRana code, but its not released yet (I hope I followed the releases).

alfmar

2017-11-04 17:04

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

My Xperia X experienced its first unexpected reboot since October 11. I had quite a number of native apps running (including music and camera), GPS collecting data, wifi off, but I don't think I was actually stressing the phone.

And yes, there was a wobbly gobbly 4G coverage. I think it's the cause of the unexpected reboot (that is: blame Sony drivers, not SailfishX), because it happened at least 4-5 times in its few Android weeks, even when without open apps, always when there was a bad/wiggling 4G signal. I guess it's a random and rare thing because I often wander around some bad cell coverage areas.

nupdyxa

2017-11-04 17:53

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Sounds like you don't get connection between modRana and OSM Scout Server. If you haven't enabled automatic start of OSM Scout Server, you would have to run OSM Scout Server in the background. For debugging purposes, start OSM Scout Server, minimize it, and open modRana again. Wait a bit and, if you don't get any maps, then go back
to OSM Scout Server and check the logs. If the connection works, it should display few access requests on the main screen.

Note that there is a user manual that may help you to set it up with modRana or Poor Maps: https://rinigus.github.io/osmscout-server/en/

Note 2: at this moment, if I remember correctly, released modRana does not support default router in OSM Scout Server. The corresponding patch has been merged to modRana code, but its not released yet (I hope I followed the releases).[/QUOTE]

Thanks for helping. Turns out that the <Card_ID> folder under the sdcard is owned by root, same group too. I had to change that to the nemo user/group. After that I could create a directory on the sdcard, using FileCase (must've created it from the shell before). Though, now seems that OSM Scout server is not able to retrieve a list of countries for map downloading. It comes up with a "Timeout" error. Though, it works just fine, when the map folder is under /home/nemo/Maps.OSM. I am lost :confused:

rinigus

2017-11-04 18:42

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by nupdyxa (Post 1538149)

Thanks for helping. Turns out that the <Card_ID> folder under the sdcard is owned by root, same group too. I had to change that to the nemo user/group. After that I could create a directory on the sdcard, using FileCase (must've created it from the shell before). Though, now seems that OSM Scout server is not able to retrieve a list of countries for map downloading. It comes up with a "Timeout" error. Though, it works just fine, when the map folder is under /home/nemo/Maps.OSM. I am lost :confused:

The server data.modrana.org is down for the last 2.5 hours. In general, according to uptimerobot, its up 99% of the time. This time, since its a research institution behind data.modrana.org, I wouldn't expect it to be back before Monday, unfortunately.

MartinK

2017-11-04 21:24

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1538153)

That's unfortunately quite likely - but I'll send them an email just in case.

rinigus

2017-11-05 20:23

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

@nupdyxa, data.modrana.org is back online. @MartinK, thanks for the help!

m4r0v3r

2017-11-06 08:34

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Dunno if this is just me but the Wifi signal seems weaker than my nexus 5 in the same spots.

m4r0v3r

2017-11-06 09:14

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by jurop88 (Post 1538101)

Hi, X here available for testing, still on the N900 as daily driver

well ive added a link in the community thread :)

bnwg	2017-11-06 15:40

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Do anyone know if sailfish x can be connected via adb for android shell command?

Sent from my ONE E1001 using Tapatalk

lantern

2017-11-06 16:15

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnwg (Post 1538231)

Do anyone know if sailfish x can be connected via adb for android shell command?

Sent from my ONE E1001 using Tapatalk

what for? sailfish has proper ssh.

taixzo

2017-11-06 16:23

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnwg (Post 1538231)

Do anyone know if sailfish x can be connected via adb for android shell command?

Sent from my ONE E1001 using Tapatalk

No, it does not work.

lancewex

2017-11-06 16:55

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

I hear a lot of hissing in audio playback, be it on a Youtube video or within the media player. Is this SFOS or a problem with the port?

juiceme

2017-11-06 17:25

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancewex (Post 1538234)

I hear a lot of hissing in audio playback, be it on a Youtube video or within the media player. Is this SFOS or a problem with the port?

Could be my ears are just wooden bricks no good for nuthin' execpt decoration, since I think the audio quality is quite good. (at least via Jabra and JBL bluetooth headphones, have not tested the audio jack itself...)

lancewex

2017-11-06 17:56

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1538236)

Thanks for the input. Yeah, I don't prefer BT headphones, and i guess that would be different. I am particular about sound (my main audio player is a Cowon Plenue 1), but have no problems with the occasional audio from my phone (especially the N900 which sounds great). But the Xperia with SFOS sounds pretty bad with all the hiss during quiet parts. Anyone else have this problem?

yomark

2017-11-06 18:29

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by taixzo (Post 1538233)

No, it does not work.

you mean, out of the box? I did see guides to get it to work on other jolla phones.

alfmar

2017-11-07 20:01

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by taixzo (Post 1538233)

No, it does not work.

The ssh service is only enabled if the "Developer Mode" is enabled and in the Developer Tools menu of the Settings you enable the Remote Connection thing and set a password.

Then you can ssh via wifi at the specified wifi address (or USB address if you use the "Developer Mode" USB connection), something like:

ssh nemo@192.168.5.93

Fun fact: if your Linux box has a ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub text file, you can append its contents to /home/nemo/.ssh/authorized_keys file (it has to be chmod 600 - that is, only readable/writeable to "nemo") such that you can ssh to Sailfish without being asked for the password.

This allows nice things like executing SailfishOS commands and using their output on your Linux box - say,

Code:

ssh nemo@xperia /bin/df | grep ' /home' | awk '{print $4 / 1000, "Mb"}'

to get the free space on the home partition (note that grep and awk are executed on your Linux box), without human interaction.

I enjoy using that trick to send SMS messages from command-line on my Linux box, something like sending every morning (via a systemd.timer) an automated message:

Code:

sms Boss Plz I only have `/bin/df | grep dev.sdb2 | awk '{print $4 / 1000, "Mb"}'` megs left, I need a new hard disk ASAP.

nupdyxa

2017-11-07 20:45

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by rinigus (Post 1538211)

@nupdyxa, data.modrana.org is back online. @MartinK, thanks for the help!

Got maps downloaded. Though modRana is still not drawing maps. Events in the OSM Scout Server go as follows:
INFO: <Time stamp> Missing data:<Map name> (<size>)
INFO: <Time stamp> Missing data: Address parsing language support (<size>)
INFO: <Time stamp> Add country or feature to requested list: World coastlines
WARNING: <Time stamp> No maps loaded: Missing world coastlines
INFO: <Time stamp> Available country or territory: Address parsing language support (<size>)
INFO: <Time stamp> Available country or territory: World Coastlines
INFO: <Time stamp> Available country or territory <Map name>
INFO: <Time stamp> Stopping Valhalla routing engine
INFO: <Time stamp> Valhalla routing engine process cleanup
INFO: <Time stamp> Starting Valhalla routing engine
INFO: <Time stamp> Countries used in search: <Map name>
INFO: <Time stamp> Opened geocoder database <path to map>
INFO: <Time stamp> libpostal will use all covered languages
INFO: <Time stamp> Number of parallel worker threads: 6
INFO: <Time stamp> Countries used in search: <Map name>
INFO: <Time stamp> Opened geocoder database <path to map>
INFO: <Time stamp> libpostal will use all covered languages
It then sits there idle and nothing is going on :rolleyes:

Martinhsl68hw

2017-11-08 06:36

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Hmm...
Left my Xperia charging last night...
This morning it was stuck on the sony splash screen, and no amount of reset with power + vol up will get it past that point
Does anyone have any suggestions or has had similar ?

herdem09

2017-11-08 08:10

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinhsl68hw (Post 1538290)

Try removing the sd card if inserted.

rinigus

2017-11-08 08:32

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by nupdyxa (Post 1538279)

INFO: <Time stamp> libpostal will use all covered languages

Its not your problem yet, but please select languages as shown in https://rinigus.github.io/osmscout-s...languages.html . Maybe X can handle it, but its possible that on search you'll be using 1-2GB databases in RAM. Selection of languages will reduce it to make it possible to use on J1 already (otherwise you try to parse every search in 80 languages!). So, it is very much recommended to select languages for parsing.

According to your log, modRana is not contacting OSM Scout Server. Please start OSM Scout Server and configure modRana to access it - see https://rinigus.github.io/osmscout-s...n/modrana.html

Please, after configuration, test by:

* first open OSM Scout Server
* next open modRana and try to move around

Martinhsl68hw

2017-11-08 09:12

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by herdem09 (Post 1538292)

Try removing the sd card if inserted.

Thanks - alas same thing....

aspergerguy

2017-11-08 13:23

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinhsl68hw (Post 1538290)

Had this when Sailfish update went wrong, pretty sure that I had to use Emma on Windows to recover device unfortunately and then re-flash Sailfish.

taixzo

2017-11-08 14:42

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfmar (Post 1538276)

The ssh service is only enabled if the "Developer Mode" is enabled and in the Developer Tools menu of the Settings you enable the Remote Connection thing and set a password.

Sorry, I should have clarified: No, adb does not work on Sailfish devices. SSH works fine.

taixzo

2017-11-09 19:24

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

So I've noticed, if I have headphones plugged in and I receive a phone call, there is no sound (either via headphones or the phone speaker). Anyone have a fix for this?

pichlo

2017-11-10 06:21

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by taixzo (Post 1538343)

So I've noticed, if I have headphones plugged in and I receive a phone call, there is no sound (either via headphones or the phone speaker). Anyone have a fix for this?

Wow. And that is an official image? Made by a real company and paid for with real money? Not just some "community" port built by a bunch of fans in their spare time?

TMavica

2017-11-10 06:52

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by taixzo (Post 1538343)

So I've noticed, if I have headphones plugged in and I receive a phone call, there is no sound (either via headphones or the phone speaker). Anyone have a fix for this?

exactly same problem
It always happened, i need reboot to fix, I have raised a bug in together, but no response from Jolla
https://together.jolla.com/question/...-in-sailfishx/

Please vote!

acrux

2017-11-10 07:45

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by taixzo (Post 1538343)

So I've noticed, if I have headphones plugged in and I receive a phone call, there is no sound (either via headphones or the phone speaker). Anyone have a fix for this?

Hmm, just made a quick test with Sony MH410c headset (came with my daughters Xperia Z2) and could not confirm. Headphones were connected, recieved a call and was able to hear the ringtone and the callers voice...

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