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juiceme

2018-05-31 14:08

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

From the 2.2.0 changelog;

Developer mode
- detached from Jolla Account

I wonder if this means that now developer mode can be activated without downloading components from the store. I remember some people regarded this as a major blocker as it basically meant one has to have a jolla account to be able to use a SFOS device.

eson	2018-05-31 14:21

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Now downloading... :)

r0kk3rz

2018-05-31 14:27

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1544861)

I thought this was changed ages ago, there was a major concern about jolla going bankrupt because they just lost a whole bunch of funding.

sponka

2018-05-31 14:33

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1544860)

Seems like everyone is getting that message

Still not working for me :(

aspergerguy

2018-05-31 14:54

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

In UK currently got one device 20% downloaded and another 45%, so slowly making progress. Sod's law dictates that F5122 which I really wanted updated will take a bit longer.:D

aQUICK1

2018-05-31 15:07

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Nice that there is a new build nr, but im hoping for SFOS 3 will come out soon, until then ill wait and use the crappy android .
Goodluck to all those who using 2.2.0.
Q3 was is not?;)

r0kk3rz

2018-05-31 15:16

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by aQUICK1 (Post 1544866)

Nice that there is a new build nr, but im hoping for SFOS 3 will come out soon, until then ill wait and use the crappy android .
Goodluck to all those who using 2.2.0.
Q3 was is not?;)

2.2.1 comes first, then maybe 2.2.2

So yeah, Sfos 3 SoonTM ! :D

mosen

2018-05-31 15:58

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

After 3,5 years, we get numbers in call history.
Halleluja.
https://together.jolla.com/question/...-call-history/

EDIT: only read in the release notes, now looking on device, me and pichlo can not find it. anyone else more lucky?

claustn

2018-05-31 16:25

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Mine on Jolla 1 works, installing it now

mosen

2018-05-31 16:58

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Fingerprint works on xperia x as advertised, BUT.

With a case attached the finger is to far away to be detected. needs to lay on the sensors and the alu casing to be detected for me.

It feels unnecessary to be forced to press the power button. Looks like the sensor only reads when lockscreen is shown. (for energy efficency?)
I was hoping to unlock simply by fingerprint in screen off state anytime.

seiichiro0185

2018-05-31 17:30

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Just installed 2.2.0.29 on my Dual SIM F5122, and managed (apparently) to convert to the official Dual SIM SFOS by doing the following (YMMV - PROCCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK AND HAVE A BACKUP AVAILABLE!!!):

Code:

# zypper ref

# zypper in droid-config-f5122 droid-config-f5122-bluez5 droid-config-f5122-flashing droid-config-f5122-policy-settings droid-config-f5122-preinit-plugin droid-config-f5122-pulseaudio-settings droid-config-f5122-sailfish droid-system-f5122 droid-hal-version-f5122 pattern:jolla-configuration-f5122 jolla-settings-networking-multisim

# zypper remove droid-config-f5121 droid-config-f5121-bluez5 droid-config-f5121-flashing droid-config-f5121-policy-settings droid-config-f5121-preinit-plugin droid-config-f5121-pulseaudio-settings droid-config-f5121-sailfish droid-hal-version-f5121

# reboot

You need Developer Mode and zypper installed. Each command starting with "zypper " needs to be on one line. The zypper install will ask to resolve a conflict involving droid-system-f5122 and droid-system-f5121, choose to install the f5122 version and remove the f5121 one.
I basically searched all packages with "f5122" in their name and replace the corresponding "f5121 ones.

After the Reboot my 2 SIM-Cards are detected without any manual changing of the configs, and the "About Device"- Dialog in the Setting states product as "Xperia X Dual SIM"

I only did some brief testing, but everything does seem to work fine. CSD tests als show no apparent failures.

And again, this is a "hacky" method I tried on my device and which seems to have worked. It might develop long term problems or not work on your device. Make sure to have backups available and be ready to reflash your device if anything fails!

EDIT: Added jolla-settings-networking-multisim to the list of packages to install, since it might be missing on previously unmodified SFOS X installs.

cy8aer

2018-05-31 18:38

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

... ok this time upgrade time 3pm cest ... ;)

aspergerguy

2018-05-31 18:52

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by seiichiro0185 (Post 1544880)

You need Developer Mode and zypper installed.

Goes without saying that you would need to:

HTML Code:

pkcon install zypper

whilst still upon 2.1.3.5 and not wait until 2.2.0.29 for now.

pichlo

2018-05-31 19:10

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1544869)

After 3,5 years, we get numbers in call history.

We do? How do I enable it, then?

mosen

2018-05-31 19:15

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1544895)

We do? How do I enable it, then?

honestly, i am still trying to find it also.
It is in the release notes "Issues reported by the community at together.jolla.com and fixed in this update" section which i read during the 30 min update.
True, i reported without testing...

EDIT: Ahhhhh. Looong press has news(?) on top. but not as i expected. I hoped for the list view...
https://mosushi.de/misc/Screenshot_20180531_001.png

lantern

2018-05-31 20:18

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

The same behavior (tap-and-hold) is already on at least 2.1.3.7, but no timestamp, only phone number and duration.

mosen

2018-05-31 20:48

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Thanks for clarifying. So where is the news :(

ajalkane

2018-05-31 22:28

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

I'm interested, why is it so important to see the exact phone number of a contact in the Phone application listing? I mean, I have hard time understanding the use case. One of my contacts called, great, why his/her exact phone number would be meaningful information in such a listing?

Fuzzillogic

2018-05-31 22:39

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajalkane (Post 1544911)

Contacts can have multiple phone numbers. E.g. landlines, mobiles, work. Could be relevant information when returning a missed call.

ajalkane

2018-05-31 22:52

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzillogic (Post 1544913)

Contacts can have multiple phone numbers. E.g. landlines, mobiles, work. Could be relevant information when returning a missed call.

Because of costs for the caller depending on the type of the phone number?

Or for some other reason? In Finland calling costs always the same amount whether recipient has landline, mobile, or work number. But I have a vague impression it may not be that way in everywhere.

mosen

2018-05-31 23:38

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajalkane (Post 1544911)

Pure availability reasons for me.
Many of my contacts have work and private numbers so to reach them properly or at all i need to select.
As workaround i fell back to having two or more seperate entries for those contacts when leaving n900.
Literally like back in the symbian or even SIM stored times and i would really like to move into this millenium and end that daily pita :D
I will look into using long press now that i realized they put the number there some updates ago :rolleyes: but it is still not what i want for a nice overview in the list.

ajalkane

2018-05-31 23:46

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1544916)

If you disable "Quick call" from Phone application settings, then when you click on the caller it will show contact information. it will show what number the call originated from, but it will also show all other alternate numbers so you can just choose to call to one of his/her other numbers.

I hope that helps the pain somewhat.

mosen

2018-06-01 00:09

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajalkane (Post 1544918)

I hope that helps the pain somewhat.

right. quickcall off is a better workaround. thx.

But still when i unified the contacts of my wife and call from mobile, then from landline. There are not two enteris in the so called "call log" but only one with the number changing.
If a captain of a ship would keep his log that kind of vague... Ohh another island, lets overwrite the location of the last one we dicovered and call it , wait, island again.
I guess what i am actually missing, expressed in sailfish logic, is the "Separate entry per call/number/contact in log" setting. But also that might be a sign of me aging :rolleyes:

pichlo

2018-06-01 06:12

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1544919)

I guess what i am actually missing, expressed in sailfish logic, is the "Separate entry per call/number/contact in log" setting.

Yesssss! Please, please, PLEASE, give us one log entry per call, Jolla. Thank you in advance.

peterleinchen

2018-06-01 06:39

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Oh c'mon guys. Are you not way too demanding? :cool:
I guess they use the contact UID to store the logs (not the number itself). And that way you always have a unique contact to show! Remember the good ol' Symbian/Maemo days? Where having stored the same number under different contacts screwed up the call log (not being able to show the belonging contact)?
So choose wise ... ;)

juiceme

2018-06-01 07:14

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Weel there'd be no problem showing all the calls in the log, both missed and completed. I think that's what @pichlo wants and I want it DESPERATELY too.

Like, say you miss 3 calls from somebody, it only says you have 3 missed calls and shows up the time of the last missed call. I want to see the exact times of all those missed calls!

Similarily, always when you make/receive a call the list only shows the last one. I want to see all the calls!

Now I have to go to call recorder and check the logs from there which is inconvenient.

pichlo

2018-06-01 07:20

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Why not both? UID and number?

Mosen is right, I too have a number of contacts with two or more mobile numbers each, plus home, work etc. Knowing which number called me is often an existential question.

While on the topic, how do people organise business contacts? Sailfish's address book is not really designed very well for cases where you have only the company name and the phone number but no person. And even if I have the person's name, "Red Kite Roofing calling" or "Joe Blogs from Red Kite Roofing calling" is much better than just "Joe Bloggs calling".

peterleinchen

2018-06-01 07:41

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1544934)

Why not both? UID and number?

but then please also the datetime.

Quote:

Mosen is right, I too have a number of contacts with two or more mobile numbers each, plus home, work etc. Knowing which number called me is often an existential question.

existential?
Or essential??

Quote:

While on the topic, how do people organise business contacts? Sailfish's address book is not really designed very well for cases where you have only the company name and the phone number but no person. And even if I have the person's name, "Red Kite Roofing calling" or "Joe Blogs from Red Kite Roofing calling" is much better than just "Joe Bloggs calling".

Do you really believe SF meant for business users? :D

And sorry for sarcasm but such discussion after (how many?) years.
I do support such 'feature'!

Unreasonable Behaviour

2018-06-01 07:42

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Please, be aware appling Mazelock patch.
Lockscreen will not work any more and without SSH enabled it will not be possible to remove patch.

I did a recovery yesterday, because I'm wasn't ebale to remove patch via shell at recovery mode.

found this on jollausers.de, but i got permission error after i tried to mount

Code:

Quellcode



    -- mount rootfs /mnt : mount /dev/mmcblk1p28 /mnt

    -- chroot inside the phone os : "chroot /mnt"

    -- check installed patches patches: ls /var/lib/patchmanager/ausmt/patches

    -- patchmanager -u <name of patch>

    -- rpm -e <name des patches>

coderus

2018-06-01 08:35

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unreasonable Behaviour (Post 1544937)

Code:

Quellcode



    -- mount rootfs /mnt : mount /dev/mmcblk1p28 /mnt

    -- chroot inside the phone os : "chroot /mnt"

    -- check installed patches patches: ls /var/lib/patchmanager/ausmt/patches

    -- patchmanager -u <name of patch>

    -- rpm -e <name des patches>

Thanks for report. I'll disable fuzz in patchmanager3.

pichlo

2018-06-01 08:58

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1544936)

existential?

Quite definitely!

Quote:

Or essential??

"Existential" implies that, does it not? :D

spag	2018-06-01 09:15

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1544929)

I guess they use the contact UID to store the logs (not the number itself).

Each call is stored separately inside the Events table and it looks like the remote party number itself is used as the key to match it to the contact which would probably happen when you invoke the call-log application itself as opposite to storing a contact UID inside the event entry.

Code:

sqlite3 .local/share/commhistory/commhistory.db

select startTime,remoteUid from Events where type = 3;

spag	2018-06-01 09:29

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1544936)

but then please also the datetime.

It's all stored in said table.

The most interesting attributes of such a call event are probably:

Code:

  startTime INTEGER,   

  endTime INTEGER,   

  direction INTEGER,     

  isMissedCall INTEGER,   

  isEmergencyCall INTEGER,

  remoteUid TEXT

I don't see anything that could prevent someone from writing an extended call-logs app should there be enough demand.

pichlo

2018-06-01 09:52

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by spag (Post 1544952)

I don't see anything that could prevent someone from writing an extended call-logs app should there be enough demand.

There is already a~~n app~~ patch for that. At least two, in fact.

What I (and presumably mosen) would like is that it is included by default, without a need for a patch.

spag	2018-06-01 10:04

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1544955)

What I (and presumably mosen) would like is that it is included by default, without a need for a patch.

I have to admit I don't like patching that much but what would speak against an additional app in Harbour?

This way the 3 people on the planet that need this feature could use it without breaking things for others.

Ok, one thing maybe: tapping on a notification would still open Jolla's original call log app.

mosen

2018-06-01 10:50

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by spag (Post 1544956)

This way the 3 people on the planet that need this feature could use it without breaking things for others.

With the guys making the patches we are already 5! :p

So you all know i defend the hell out of jolla and always try to treat them fair given the humongous task they gave themself.

But why don't they make more use of community contributions?
Is it so hard (honest question, idk!) to integrate the most used patches as settings options? Is it a licensing issue? I guess most patch-devs would feel great honor to be upstreamed and propably would share their work just for an official mention and attached street-cred.

ajalkane

2018-06-01 15:08

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

I also often miss knowing the times someone has called and get frustrated about that grouping.

But now I realized, you can get the individual call logs from "Past communication events". I think this solves my frustration.

claustn

2018-06-01 15:39

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1544959)

Totally agree, the emoji keyboard is an immediate example, not even close to the one developed before from private user.
It seems such a waste of time recreating things that already exist

lantern

2018-06-01 16:10

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

btw, here's where the timestamp appeared in 2.2

Quote:

[calllog] Display start time on over day old logs.

clovis86

2018-06-01 18:58

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

OMG share UI plugin is not working anymore :(

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