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At your own risk :o

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Nice of you. Thanks for the heads up. I gave up F5ing some weeks ago.

EDIT:
geez, 819 packes touched.

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2.2.1 also in TJC:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...21-nurmonjoki/

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Yes! Updated alien dalvik for Jolla tablet. Can't wait to test it. Glad I suggested it in an IRC meeting.

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Not much in for me. I really hoped they fix the roaming problems.
Anyone can tell which patches work and which not?

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Are any official dual sim Tablets available for SFOS? Just wondering what that means in releas notes:

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Seems like no changes were made to SailfishX. The known issues list has not decreased in size :(

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[camera] Increase primary camera resolution to 5984x3392.

full 20 mp now on X?

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Very happy to see this. Need to test later if it fixes my issues

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no. still 16mp.
other nice feature in 2.2.1 from jolla was to remove the word Beta in emoji :mad:

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In the Xperia X camera settings it says 20mp.
I believe, the picture is bigger but the issues remain. The quality did not improve, just the size did. Not an expert on the subject though..

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Settings said 20 Mpx but it was still only 16 Mpx. Switched to 4:3 (13 Mpx), took a picture and then switched back to 20 Mpx. Now the pictures are indeed 5984x3392.

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please share screenshot about it

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Inoi T8 and T10 are expected to hit the market soon™. (probably not much in terms of end user units as these are targeted to Russian B2B clients. Most likely without Alien Dalvik support, same as Inoi R7)

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see screenshot attached here

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OK, updated without any troubles.

For your interest, What patches work for me, what not:

Working:
Upcoming events in calendar cover
Force cover size
Keypad open by default
Upcoming events on lockscreen
Go to date in calendar
Hide recent contacts
Replace eventsview setting by general settings
Hide tutorial icon
Switcher click hints launcher

Working with developer mode enabled:
Swipe cursor by swiping on the keyboard
Tracker path settings
Agenda instead of day
Enhanced Power Menu
Launcher combined
Device faith text

Not working
Volume control settings

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I eventuually succumbed to the pressure and got a used X + a new Sail license. The installation process was unnecessarily painful. Things were not explained as clearly as they could have been, necessary files were not included or at least linked and I had to make a generous use of online searching, reading other sources and downloading the wrong things a few times before arriving at the right files... All in all, I really would expect a much, much better service. Very disappointed.

Maybe the instructions were written with certain assumptions, such as that you know about various Android development related things, but that is a strange assumption considering that Sailfish is supposed to be an Android alternative.

Once installed, the OS runs smoothly, but one would expect that, considering that it runs smoothly on J1 and X has a three timed better hardware. But - and it is a big but - I find it unusable for daily use for the simple reason that it is waaaaay too big and cumbersome. I got fooled by the official specifications: only about 1cm longer than J1. That may be so, but it still feels far too large. Maybe because J1 is already too large, although I got used to it already.

So I am using it only for experimenting. One experiment was updating to 2.2.1. This is the result. Nothing helps, not even pressing the power button and holding it for about a minute. What now? Let the battery run down and hope? Flash again? Throw away the damn thing and forget the whole folly?

Attachment 40051

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I got it right, that it stuck to that screen?
Have you tried to hold "power" and "volume up" together for several seconds?

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It's been a while, that I installed Sailfish X.
But beeing just a average Linux user, I had no problems Installing Sailfish X following exactly the instructions. :confused:

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Yes, that is correct.

I have now. The phone rebooted back into 2.2.0.29 and said an update was ready. I said OK, install it and got back into the same screen. The "Reboot" text starts off white but once I tap on it, it turns cyan and the whole thing freezes.

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All patches disabled?
How much space left on internal memory?

Just to be curious:
What happens if you touch the reboot text?

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Maybe you knew what they were on about. I had no problems with the Linuxy stuff, but the Androidy stuff was like Chinese to me.

No patches. I only just installed Patchmanager but have not set it up yet. Uninstalling it made no difference.

Lots. This is a newly set up device, with hardly anything on it. Two email accounts, that's it.

See my post 2740 ;)
The "Reboot" text starts off white but once I tap on it, it turns cyan and the whole thing freezes.

Never mind, I restarted again - about the fifth time already, each time unistalling something to see if it makes a difference - and now I have reset the device and am setting it up again. No big loss, there was nothing on it.

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Never owned an Android phone. But of course used sometimes the phones of my friends. Maybe i just had luck to read instructions in the right way...

For your update problems: If you have had all patches disabled and enough space on internal memory, and it still doesn't work, try update manually:

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Yaay, success! :)

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The difficulty of Sailfish X installation really depends on if you want to backup the TA partition (so that you can return the device to original state, for example for easier warranty repair) or not. Without the backup step (which entail at least one firmware flashing and then 3 hours of updates or two firmware flashings) the installation process is easy, you just:

0. pay for license, download the image, download the kernel binaries
1. make sure the Android firmware is new enough
2. unlock the bootloader (this is kinda annoying, but I understand the security implications of why it is it done that way)
3. run the Jolla provided flashing script

And that's it, isn't it ?

As for additional optional but useful steps:
a) resize rootfs so your updates will not fail in the future due to the by-default laughably small rootfs overfilling
b) install Google play services in case some of the Android apps you use require them
c) install warehouse to get access to OpenRepos apps
d) install modRana & OSM Scout server from OpenRepos ;-)

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Martin is right. Probably that was the problem. I didn't make a backup of the TA partition. Because I definitely wanted the phone to run Sailfish and not Android.

for the optional additional steps:
a) I solved this problem working with some symlinks from usr/share to home
b) I prefer a Google free system
c) a must have
d) look at c) :D

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I did not make a backup of anything. I don't even know what a "TA partition" is. Never heard that term in my life. Just like about 80% of the things mentioned in the installation instructions.

Look, I also went though this a while ago and don't remember all the details, but I do remember it took me a good part of a whole day to complete it. There were many outdated links and other things I had to look up for myself, because they were not sufficiently explained.

Some examples: the instructions mention you have to download Emma, whereas in reality no such thing was necessary since the flashing tool was included in the downloaded zip. it was never explained what a "fastboot driver" is and why do I need one. As it turned out, following the instructions and installing it was a grave mistake as the process worked much better without it. The instructions for getting the unlock keys mentioned I had to give Sony my details but none of that happened, making me waste time trying again because I was assuming I did it wrong. It was never explained what "vendor binary images" are and why do I need them. The fact that you will get an outdated version was mentioned only at the end and only as a "by the way".

But first and foremost of all, the instructions are badly structured. I would have written them as a list of steps with a short explanation what it is and why is it needed. Then, and only then, would I go into details of each step. The way the instructions are written makes even reading them a pain. It looks like it was written by someone who wanted to jot them down quickly before he forgets, rather than by someone who knows how to write user manuals.

Anyway. You say it was easy for you. That either makes you a genius or me an idiot. I can live with both :)

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I am quite far away from a genius and you (as far as I know you from this forum) from an idiot.

Which installation guide did you use? I used that one:
https://jolla.com/sailfishx-linux-instructions/
and I presume that you used a different one.

All links work in that guide and emma was marked as Option2:
Just for information: The TA-Partition is a special partition which holds informations regarding warranty status, all DRM keys, etc.

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Thanks, Fellfrosch, that's very nice of you ;)

I followed the Windows instructions here: https://jolla.com/sailfishx-windows-instructions/

In retrospect, I think my biggest problem was that I prefer to know what I am doing, which was not always the case here. The instructions are not written in a consistent style, they are a weird mix of "expert" and "trained monkey" level. A trained monkey does not need to understand, just follow steps. An expert does not need explanations because (s)he knows it all. I was lost somewhere in between ;)

For example, I still do not know "vendor binary images" are and why do I need them. I mean, I am replacing a vendor's binary image (Android) with my own (Sailfish), am I not? So why on earth do I need this? But I guess I do not really need to know that. It's just a black box that I need for some reason. I could do the whole thing again in no time at all if I had to.

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Well at that point I can just guess that flashing the image you still need the image of sony because there are parts in it, which are needed to flash a third party image. But that should explain someone else, I can just guess there.
To be honest at that part I just behaved the trained monkey way ;):o. As I told you I'm just an average Linux user and maybe more the idiot than you because at some points I don't even try to understand, because I'm to lazy. So maybe that helped me with the instructions.
Which saved me at least a lot of time. :p

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Since Jolla doesn't build the full fw from scratch (like it was on jPhone or Nokia N9), but is using HAL, - it should have those proprietary Sony android bits.

That's why you have to flash those Sony blobs in a separate step.

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Good to know I guessed right :)

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XZ2 and XZ2Compact got a 51.1.A.11.51 update, which updates the bootloader to v60, so it now allows to boot AOSP.

Everything is ready for the next Sony SFOS phone :)

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Same here. 5984x3392 is the actual 20.3 Mp resolution.

I guess not all Xperia X owners know yet.

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SailfishOS 2.2.2 fingerprint sensor, direct unlocking or wakeup without pressing power :)

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Hi,
i have Sony F5121.
i have sfos 2.1.3.5 installed.
i would like to upgrade my OS.
when i go to sailfish os update in system menu i check for update but nothing.
"waiting for connection" message
Anybody have same problem?
how to do it manually in terminal?
thank you

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check internet access
check if the phone is already logged with ur jolla account

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Is that possible to make an USSD request from command-line and get the text output? Also, is it possible to specify from which SIM card to make a request on multi-sim phones?

PS I know about gdbus call -e -d com.jolla.voicecall.ui -o / -m com.jolla.voicecall.ui.dial '*CODE#', but it doesn't return the text to console.

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It is not your problem, I too felt uneasy feeling something is not streamlined in those instructions but I am not "clever" enough or say interested or even up to date enough to know all those terms by heart at the time of flashing.

Following the instructions monkey wise is the only option.
But I don't like install this, install that and without mentioning how to clean my system afterwards.
We are not all developpers that keep a few images of a clean system in case it gets polluted.


-we could indeed be explained WHY we need such or such step
-or find a glossary at the end of the procedure.
-let people learn something during the process, so they'd remember it for the next time
-and after flashing, we should be shown how to clean our OS of (fastboot drivers, flash tool this or that..)


Jolla has followed the trap of "need ecosystem" but forgot about "OS upgrades / installation should be fun and event to look forward to".

Hence I am not looking forward to flashing Sailfish X on let's say the Sony XA2. Only if I was to do it as my daily job in service of tens or hunreds of other users I would accept to learn such procedure once. And I truly believe I would write a better procedure after a couple of days. And I am not exactly known for capability to keep it brief and structured but I am capable to imagine myself in other's persons place reading these instructions first time.
Sailfish X supposed for early adopter nerds only because we can't write fun to follow, correct, up to date and if possible, brief procedures?


My virtual mobile network provider wanted us to swap sim cards because they are changing network provider.

They sent a letter out with instructions.
After the first 3 lines of instructions, it read:
"please see on the back for the next 5 steps. Just joking sorry. You're done. Enjoy. "
For all those non -interested just following the monkey trail that is a gesture of understanding.

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Absolutely, the same here.
And I think I know why.
Because I would write it for someone like me. With an understanding of expectations and pitfalls.