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Akkumaru 2018-11-11 00:09
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1550459)
Before making a TJC "bug" report, i need to ask y'all first. Has anyone of you got fingerprint reader support on any XA2 variant?
I am asking because i see no mention of missing FP-Reader support in the release notes, yet it is not working on my h4113. Thanks.
I'm pretty sure it's written somewhere that the XA2s don't have fingerprint support yet

Fellfrosch 2018-11-11 07:12
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
I use and like the ambiences a lot. Why?
Maybe because of me forgetfulness. OK I describe the way I use it:

I have three ambiences in use. All are the same picture but dyed in a different signal colour:
Red: Ringtone 100 %, vibrations on
Green: Ringtone 20%, vibrations on
Blue: Ringtone off, vibrations off
I use the volume control settings patch to uncouple the volume hardware buttons from the ringtone setting. So they only control media volume and I can't adjust the ringtone by accident.

So every time I look at my phone I immediately know how my phone works at the moment. If I see blue colour and don't want to miss a call, I have forgotten to set it in the right mode again after the last meeting. And yes you can tell me you can see that on the ringtone Icon. But no, this icon is so tiny, I would oversee it all the time.

So if you ask me, I don't want to miss ambiences and I'm not a powerpoint man.

So claiming that noone is using ambiences, just because YOU don't use them is wrong. I definitely don't want to miss them and would be grateful, if Jolla would work on them further.

rinigus 2018-11-11 11:42
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Re ambiences: same here, as @Fellfrosch. I have separate ambiences for Day (all sounds enabled), Night (no notifications, calls go through), Meeting (no sounds). Having different color schemes makes it easy to check what's the current setting. Having a proper device with the hardware switch for ambiences (tri-state switch on OnePlus X) and Kimmoli's code to enable it, helps a lot. No need to have ambiences on the top menu then...

pichlo 2018-11-11 13:03
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.ph...74#post1550474 :D

Akkumaru 2018-11-11 15:02
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Anyone else have horrendous battery life on the XA2? I mean, I still return home with 20% left but I'm pretty that's because of the large battery. It never seems to go onto deep sleep, and overnight I could lose up to 50% charge. I checked the processes running from Crest but nothing seems to be consuming CPU or RAM

aspergerguy 2018-11-11 15:09
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akkumaru (Post 1550483)
Anyone else have horrendous battery life on the XA2?
No doubt you have found this thread by now?
https://together.jolla.com/question/...sailfish-3008/

wolke 2018-11-11 15:29
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
"no sounds" is FALSE though, because you cant set pulse volume with ambiences. also, you can use volume buttons to make silent-ambience ring, and sailfish3-ambience silent. so i cant trust those visual cues, and i wish i could.

i dont mind ambiences existing, i just want an obvious, reliable, easily-set silent mode.

mariusmssj 2018-11-11 16:58
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wolke (Post 1550486)
"no sounds" is FALSE though, because you cant set pulse volume with ambiences. also, you can use volume buttons to make silent-ambience ring, and sailfish3-ambience silent. so i cant trust those visual cues, and i wish i could.

i dont mind ambiences existing, i just want an obvious, reliable, easily-set silent mode.
After 3.0 I found that the silent ambience was not longer silent for me which was a right pain. ambiences should have a lot more control

Akkumaru 2018-11-11 18:37
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aspergerguy (Post 1550485)
No doubt you have found this thread by now?
https://together.jolla.com/question/...sailfish-3008/
Yeah, I've read that mutiple times the past few days to see if anyone has any fix, but it doesn't seem so. So I was wondering if anyone here has had enough time with the XA2 to have a fix or something

Qnotus 2018-11-11 19:54
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Has anyone else had problems with usb tethering after update to 3.0? Other usb modes seems to work like before update, but internet sharing -option gives only "currently not connected" message in usb modes

MartinK 2018-11-11 23:47
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Qnotus (Post 1550505)
Has anyone else had problems with usb tethering after update to 3.0? Other usb modes seems to work like before update, but internet sharing -option gives only "currently not connected" message in usb modes
According to user feedback (haven't tried myself yet) USB tethering is currently broken in Sailfish OS 3:

https://together.jolla.com/question/...rking-anymore/

To add some context, USB tethering has been unofficially available since log ago, one would install a package from the official repositories and a "USB tethering" icon would show up when you connect USB cable to you Sailfish OS device.

This apparently no longer works even though some users report solutions based on custom script still work. Also apparently a reasonable amount of people has been using this kinda hidden feature.

My recommended course of action for interested parties is to vote for the TJC issue & add it as a topic to the next community meeting. This would ideally not only result in the feature being fixed but also finally enabled by default.

rm250j 2018-11-12 03:01
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by suicidal_orange (Post 1550440)
My X 'cannot upgrade at this time' after downloading and rebooting, doesn't sound like I'm missing much but I like to keep up to date.

I haven't messed with the software so is it possible there's something wrong with my device? I only ask because it was in my pocket during a bike crash so the frame is cracked on all sides and there are colour marks on the screen, but other than that it seems to work perfectly. I don't know of any diagnostic tests in Sailfish.
I'm having the same problem, did you work out how to upgrade?

(Sony Xperia X dual-sim)

carlosgonz 2018-11-12 03:12
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
i upgraded all my devices with zero troubles; like: jp1, jollac, sonyx.
how i did?
unmastering packages
remove all patch including patchmanager2-3
disabling all the repos in storeman or warehouse
get updating cache of sf update
install-sf-packages
just for the record ...

rm250j 2018-11-12 03:20
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by carlosgonz (Post 1550516)
i upgraded all my devices with zero troubles; like: jp1, jollac, sonyx.
how i did?
unmastering packages
remove all patch including patchmanager2-3
Disabling all the repos in openstore or warehouse
get update the sf update
install sf
// just for the record
Great, sadly I have little idea how you did those things (so I'm guessing I don't need to disable any repos...)

What terminal program did you use?

rm250j 2018-11-12 03:38
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rm250j (Post 1550517)
Great, sadly I have little idea how you did those things (so I'm guessing I don't need to disable any repos...)

What terminal program did you use?
ok, my bad, didn't realise it was in developer mode

rm250j 2018-11-12 04:34
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rm250j (Post 1550518)
ok, my bad, didn't realise it was in developer mode
Managed to update to SF3 :) using these commands:

devel-su
## type your SSH password here

ssu re 3.0.0.8 ## replace "3.0.0.8" with your target OS version if different
version --dup ## note the 2 dash characters in front of 'dup'!
reboot

lantern 2018-11-19 19:09
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Xperia XZ2, Xperia XZ2 Compact and Xperia XZ3 (Tama)
Xperia XZ2 ....................... akari
Xperia XZ2 Compact ............... apollo
Xperia XZ3 ....................... akatsuki
same Sony platform. fingers crossed.

Bundyo 2018-11-20 06:02
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Where do you quote that from?

lantern 2018-11-20 09:43
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
sony's github, for example
https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/device-sony-tama

objectifnul 2018-11-20 10:16
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
@rm250j This method is usuallly okay. However, in my experience, if you use it for an OS *downgrade*, it may brick the phone (in my case, downgrading from 3.0.0.8 to 2.2.0.29 on a Jolla phone).

Pim 2018-11-20 16:49
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1550951)

Great so the XZ2 and XZ3 are part of their open devices program?
I would absolutely *love* an XZ3 with Sailfish and would pay for it accordingly.

lantern 2018-11-20 17:44
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Yes, and people would also love XZ2 Compact

lantern 2018-11-20 17:47
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
is there any dbus setting to remove that "get your charger off the wall socket" warning after the phone is charged? hate it when I want to check if it's 100% charged

carlosgonz 2018-11-24 17:09
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
donations time!
- OSM Scount
- Talefish
- Openrepos.net

Mikkosssss 2018-12-02 11:19
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
My Xperia X just completely died.

Internet wasn't working some reason so I went to set flight mode on and off from the new top menu to try reset it.
Flight mode was taking very long to activate so I went to reboot the phone with powermenu.
As I press reboot and lay the phone on table I forget it and continued my working on PC.

When I picked up my Xperia it was off.
Now can't get any response. Can't get any leds or vibrations by holding any buttons or by using USB cable. I removed sim and tried fastboot mode or recovery mode but still no leds or vibrations.

Is there anything I can try?

Update:
Picked up my Xperia X once again and pressed buttons to try get any response and it just woke up and booted.

mrsellout 2018-12-02 15:04
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
I think I read something about pressing Power and Vol + and - down for 10 seconds

mosen 2018-12-02 15:29
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1551369)
I think I read something about pressing Power and Vol + and - down for 10 seconds
It is Volume Up and Power for only 3 seconds to reboot Xperia X. The device vibrates ones. To power off keep holding and wait for triple vibrate.
I need it way to often sadly.

Sometimes instead of the lock screen i only get backlighted black screen with no notification led error code.
Most propably i misconfigured my installation due to testing all and every hack i read here. If the XA2 port does not supercede the Xperia X ux, i am propably trying a reflash and keep everyting stockish to see if the error goes away.

carlosgonz 2018-12-25 20:33
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
my contribution to sailfish o.s in 2018 directly and indirectly.
- 2 sailfish x license.
- translated over 60 apps to spanish.
- donated over 300eu in sailfish apps.
- reported over 30 bug in sailfish apps.
- requested over 20 features in sailfish apps.

Pentona 2019-01-24 22:59
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
My XA2 install fails in the last step, what am I doing wrong? The image SW_binaries_for_Xperia_Android_8.1.6.4_r1_v16_nile .img is in the same folder. I'm using macOS and I'm not any good with Terminal.

Quote:
MacBook-Pro-3:~ macbookpro$ /Users/macbookpro/Documents/Sailfish_OS-Jolla-3.0.0.8-h4113-0.0.7.10-FIXED/flash.sh
Detected Mac OS X - Version: 10 14 2-
Searching device to flash..
Found 1 devices: CQ3001E9U7
Fastboot command: fastboot -s CQ3001E9U7
/Users/macbookpro/Documents/Sailfish_OS-Jolla-3.0.0.8-h4113-0.0.7.10-FIXED/flash.sh: line 168: md5.lst: No such file or directory

The Sony Vendor partition image was not found in the current directory. Please
download it from
https://developer.sony.com/file/down...rnel-4-4-nile/
and unzip it into this directory.

mosen 2019-01-24 23:42
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pentona (Post 1553137)
My XA2 install fails in the last step, what am I doing wrong? The image SW_binaries_for_Xperia_Android_8.1.6.4_r1_v16_nile .img is in the same folder. I'm using macOS and I'm not any good with Terminal.
It is indeed not much you could have done wrong.
You can check the output of ls -l (list directory) from within the directory you named above and started bash .flash.sh from. If you are unsure if all is correct post a screenshot of the output here.
But you can see the folders content in any filemanager so terminal is not even necessary.

This really comes down to the simple question if the sony image is in place and named correctly.
There is a space character before .img in the filename you posted above. If that is present in the filename on your computer it would be wrong. But i guess the space is just a wrong representation here on TMO since it is missing when i qoute your post.

If all is correct i would suggest to open a question at together.jolla.com since actual Jolla engineers are reading and answering.
I have heard of Android Platform version related errors on macos but those where more obvious and fixed in 2.0.1.4

aspergerguy 2019-01-25 16:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pentona (Post 1553137)
My XA2 install fails in the last step, what am I doing wrong? The image SW_binaries_for_Xperia_Android_8.1.6.4_r1_v16_nile .img is in the same folder. I'm using macOS and I'm not any good with Terminal.
Here is terminal output for successful flash upon XA2. The fact that you have reached line 158 in flashing script is good news as shows ADB and Fasboot installed correctly. Presuming that you must have enabled “OEM unlocking” and “USB debugging whilst on Android to get this far and device is actually "bootloader unlocked"? To avoid any confusion this device was boot loader unlocked via Windows prior to flashing via Mac OSX.

HTML Code:
iMac:~ adrian$ cd //Users/adrian/Desktop/XperiaXA2Sailfish/Sailfish_OS-Jolla-3.0.0.8-h4113-0.0.7.10-FIXED
iMac:Sailfish_OS-Jolla-3.0.0.8-h4113-0.0.7.10-FIXED adrian$ ./flash.sh
Detected Mac OS X - Version: 10 14 2-
Searching device to flash..
Found 1 devices: CQ3000VUSB
Fastboot command: fastboot -s CQ3000VUSB 
Flashing boot_a partition..
target reported max download size of 536870912 bytes
sending 'boot_a' (17772 KB)...
OKAY [  0.385s]
writing 'boot_a'...
OKAY [  0.001s]
finished. total time: 0.386s
Flashing boot_b partition..
target reported max download size of 536870912 bytes
sending 'boot_b' (17772 KB)...
OKAY [  0.381s]
writing 'boot_b'...
OKAY [  0.001s]
finished. total time: 0.382s
Flashing userdata partition..
target reported max download size of 536870912 bytes
erasing 'userdata'...
OKAY [  0.852s]
sending sparse 'userdata' 1/3 (508382 KB)...
OKAY [ 10.812s]
writing 'userdata' 1/3...
OKAY [  0.000s]
sending sparse 'userdata' 2/3 (522787 KB)...
OKAY [ 12.770s]
writing 'userdata' 2/3...
OKAY [  0.000s]
sending sparse 'userdata' 3/3 (72372 KB)...
OKAY [  4.780s]
writing 'userdata' 3/3...
OKAY [  0.000s]
finished. total time: 29.215s
Flashing system_b partition..
target reported max download size of 536870912 bytes
sending sparse 'system_b' 1/2 (524284 KB)...
OKAY [ 11.107s]
writing 'system_b' 1/2...
OKAY [  0.001s]
sending sparse 'system_b' 2/2 (40932 KB)...
OKAY [ 13.529s]
writing 'system_b' 2/2...
OKAY [  0.000s]
finished. total time: 24.638s
Flashing vendor_a partition..
target reported max download size of 536870912 bytes
sending 'vendor_a' (340 KB)...
OKAY [  0.017s]
writing 'vendor_a'...
OKAY [  0.001s]
finished. total time: 0.018s
Flashing vendor_b partition..
target reported max download size of 536870912 bytes
sending 'vendor_b' (340 KB)...
OKAY [  0.017s]
writing 'vendor_b'...
OKAY [  0.001s]
finished. total time: 0.018s
Flashing oem partition..
target reported max download size of 536870912 bytes
sending 'oem_a' (211516 KB)...
OKAY [  4.495s]
writing 'oem_a'...
OKAY [  0.001s]
finished. total time: 4.496s

Flashing completed.

Remove the USB cable and bootup the device by pressing powerkey.

ridmaur 2019-01-29 20:39
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pentona (Post 1553137)
My XA2 install fails in the last step, what am I doing wrong? The image SW_binaries_for_Xperia_Android_8.1.6.4_r1_v16_nile .img is in the same folder. I'm using macOS and I'm not any good with Terminal.
I had the same issue; couldn't get it to work. Had to revert to a Windows machine and by following exactly the same instructions as I did for Mac OS X I was successful in flashing my XA2 with Sailfish.

chilango 2019-01-30 05:26
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
I had the same problems. And the same solution.
Something doesnt work under MacOS

mosen 2019-01-30 08:13
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Could you @chilango and @ridmaur specify when that took place? As i wrote earlier, there was a problem with the script when sfosx was released. The fastboot version on macOS does not accept the "-l" feature anymore and that had to be worked around in the script iirc.

I was involved in the finding and had and heard of many successful flashes via macOS since then.

ridmaur 2019-01-30 17:47
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
See https://together.jolla.com/question/...in-lock-state/

BluesLee 2019-01-31 16:13
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Here we go: Sailfish X Beta now available for Sony Xperia XA2 device range

seiichiro0185 2019-01-31 18:42
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Interesting bit from the updated Jolla Page for SailfishX:

Quote:
13. The Android app support of Xperia X is based on version 4.4.4 now. Will you update the Android support of Xperia X devices?
With Android 8.1 app support we focus on the newest hardware (Xperia XA2 range), and currently we are not planning to deploy this solution backwards to older Xperia X models.
If this means there will be no update for the Xperia X's Android Layer or if there might be an update to e.g. Android 7 Compatiblity later on is not stated anywhere. The question was asked in the comments of the release blogpost, but looking at Jolla's communication approach in the past I'm sceptical that there will be any clear answer.

kinggo 2019-01-31 19:46
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
This seems quite clear, no android update for X.

mariusmssj 2019-02-01 12:27
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
anyone else having issues with XA2 not connecting to network properly? Mine can see the sim card no issue at all but will not connect to a network, when i reboot it does but then on another boot up it doesn't anymore

seiichiro0185 2019-02-01 12:49
Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1553363)
This seems quite clear, no android update for X.
Seems to be about right. As expected no clear answer to the many questions about this on the blog, but at least this comment from James Noori on the blog seems to be quite clear

Quote:
We always said ?After we have released the support for the new XA2 range of devices, we will evaluate the feasibility of enabling newer Android support on Xperia X.? But the current situation makes the feasibility of it extremely difficult.
(emphasis by me)

So I wouldn't get my hopes up to see any work being done from Jollas side to get a higher version of android layer running on the Xperia X.


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