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carlosgonz 2019-02-01 13:23

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
i do not care what Jolla is saying or doing about ur devices updates, just not supporting anymore. just waiting for Librem5 happily. = )

lantern 2019-02-01 14:26

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyTpECOXQAE0d-Y.jpg

MartinK 2019-02-01 17:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seiichiro0185 (Post 1553396)
Seems to be about right. As expected no clear answer to the many questions about this on the blog, but at least this comment from James Noori on the blog seems to be quite clear

(emphasis by me)

So I wouldn't get my hopes up to see any work being done from Jollas side to get a higher version of android layer running on the Xperia X.

This is just not about Android API level upgrade, but also about upgrading the kernel & drivers (though most Android API level upgrades imply also kernel/drivers upgrade).

There are many hardware issues (bad CPU scheduling, broken echo cancellation, Bluetooth-WiFi interference) that are long fixed in newer kernel/driver packages Sony provides for Xperia X on their open device website.

hemiwi 2019-02-04 18:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1553392)
anyone else having issues with XA2 not connecting to network properly? Mine can see the sim card no issue at all but will not connect to a network, when i reboot it does but then on another boot up it doesn't anymore

I have the same problem that i get drops and am not connected to WIFI anymore all the time.
Openrepos and Jollas server then can not update via GUI and terminal.

Have not found out what causes this. Maybe the new iptables? No clue up to know.

lantern 2019-02-09 16:13

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XZ2/XZ3 lineup is now officially listed in Supported devices by SONY
https://developer.sony.com/develop/o...functionality/

Pim 2019-02-09 17:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1553837)
XZ2/XZ3 lineup is now officially listed in Supported devices by SONY
https://developer.sony.com/develop/o...functionality/

I want an XZ3 with Sailfish!

Jolla, if you're listening, I'd pay handsomely for it.

Jedibeeftrix 2019-02-09 20:10

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i hope the fingerprint reader is going to arrive on the XA2 generation, because having bought a Plus i'm gonna be loath to install SFOS on it if i'll be entering passwords for the life of the device!

mariusmssj 2019-02-10 10:19

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Getting really odd behaviour. After i flashed me XA2 with SFOS the phone could barely last a day on a single charge and that happened for around a week. Now it can happily do 3 days.
I don't think it was a parasitic app draw I rebooted the phone at least twice a day. Really odd

Saturn 2019-02-10 20:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1553861)
Getting really odd behaviour. After i flashed me XA2 with SFOS the phone could barely last a day on a single charge and that happened for around a week. Now it can happily do 3 days.
I don't think it was a parasitic app draw I rebooted the phone at least twice a day. Really odd


There is a couple of things that could play a role. Such as:

- if the phone is brand new, new types of batteries like those used nowdays on phones & laptops need a few cycles to gain their full capacity

- several DBs (such as for thumbnails, contacts etc.) need lots of processing power to be build fully and they are put in the background at low priority that could take few days to complete. If you added large sets of data such as pictures, music etc. in a fresh OS this is quite significant.


Obviously, i might be completely off here especially since you are a power user.

mariusmssj 2019-02-11 17:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 1553889)
There is a couple of things that could play a role. Such as:

- if the phone is brand new, new types of batteries like those used nowdays on phones & laptops need a few cycles to gain their full capacity

- several DBs (such as for thumbnails, contacts etc.) need lots of processing power to be build fully and they are put in the background at low priority that could take few days to complete. If you added large sets of data such as pictures, music etc. in a fresh OS this is quite significant.


Obviously, i might be completely off here especially since you are a power user.

You might be onto something, as I found that few others seem to have reported such things as well. I do have couple of thousands of photos on the phone :D

pasko 2019-02-11 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hemiwi (Post 1553577)
I have the same problem that i get drops and am not connected to WIFI anymore all the time.
Openrepos and Jollas server then can not update via GUI and terminal.

Have not found out what causes this. Maybe the new iptables? No clue up to know.

Hi.

I posted a suggestion here:

https://together.jolla.com/question/...n-issue-30114/

However I think that your problem is more complicated. When you're connected to WLAN: What is the result of:

Code:

[nemo@Sailfish ~]$ /sbin/route -n
?
Regards.

pichlo 2019-07-03 21:05

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Sorry if this has been mentioned before. I am late to the game and scanning nearly 3000 posts would exceed my feeble brain capacity.

I have had an X for a while but did not use it at all for the first few months (too big to carry daily) and then I only used it to play an Android game (I do not mind spoiling it with Android, something I would never allow on my Jolla).

So it was only today that I first tried recording a video. It worked pretty well except... the sound was so low I could barely hear it in the playback even when turned all the way up. It was there, nice and clear, only very, very quiet.

Is this something known?

peperjohnny 2019-07-05 06:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1558217)
Sorry if this has been mentioned before. I am late to the game and scanning nearly 3000 posts would exceed my feeble brain capacity.

I have had an X for a while but did not use it at all for the first few months (too big to carry daily) and then I only used it to play an Android game (I do not mind spoiling it with Android, something I would never allow on my Jolla).

So it was only today that I first tried recording a video. It worked pretty well except... the sound was so low I could barely hear it in the playback even when turned all the way up. It was there, nice and clear, only very, very quiet.

Is this something known?

I experienced it too and IIRC that was a known issue.

P@t 2019-07-05 08:03

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fyi Jolla seems to be working on having SFOS on Xperia 10 (and using Android 9 as a base)...

peperjohnny 2019-07-05 09:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by P@t (Post 1558248)
fyi Jolla seems to be working on having SFOS on Xperia 10 (and using Android 9 as a base)...

Out of curiosity, where did you find this?

Bundyo 2019-07-05 10:40

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Probably this commit?

https://github.com/sailfishos/droidm...69b351bfb5ceb7

P@t 2019-07-05 12:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 1558255)

Not particularly this one but indeed on github.com/mer-hybris, there are several new packages related to the Xperia 10 now ;)

Jedibeeftrix 2019-07-06 11:08

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
shame if the implication is that this is only the Xperia 10 (with its A53 low power cores) and not also including the 10 Plus (with its mix of high power and low power cores).

as it would suggest that jolla are struggling with the resources to move beyond the cheap and slow A53 Arm core CPU's (particularly as A53 has now been replaced by A55 in all new SoC designs).

P@t 2019-07-09 16:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 1558270)
shame if the implication is that this is only the Xperia 10 (with its A53 low power cores) and not also including the 10 Plus (with its mix of high power and low power cores).

as it would suggest that jolla are struggling with the resources to move beyond the cheap and slow A53 Arm core CPU's (particularly as A53 has now been replaced by A55 in all new SoC designs).

Actually today I saw a commit related to mermaid (the 10 Plus) ;)

Amboss 2019-07-10 20:38

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I wish they would commit more things to fix usability for devices already in use instead of bother for yet another phone. That would make users of phones, which where promised 'this an that' features, stay with them some time longer than mentioned phones might live.

aQUICK1 2019-07-11 10:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amboss (Post 1558317)
I wish they would commit more things to fix usability for devices already in use instead of bother for yet another phone. That would make users of phones, which where promised 'this an that' features, stay with them some time longer than mentioned phones might live.

Yesssss! I do totally agree with u!

mariusmssj 2019-07-16 13:32

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anyone got any info on the upcoming 3.1.0 update? They finished with string translations weeks ago

aQUICK1 2019-07-16 14:14

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1558398)
anyone got any info on the upcoming 3.1.0 update? They finished with string translations weeks ago

The lack of comms between users and Jolla about updates or a decent roadmap is still pathethic in my opinion.
Only excuses and fake promises I hear or read .:(

atlochowski 2019-07-16 16:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1558398)
anyone got any info on the upcoming 3.1.0 update? They finished with string translations weeks ago

it's holiday season and during this season Jolla usually is less active than normal. So probably we should wait longer than usual.

Fuzzillogic 2019-07-16 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by atlochowski (Post 1558402)
it's holiday season and during this season Jolla usually is less active than normal. So probably we should wait longer than usual.

3.0.3.8 was released as early access almost three months ago. I'd say we already waited much longer that usual. What irks me the most, is the lack of communication. What irks me the second most, is that they probably (hopefully) sit in a ton of bugfixes which don't need any updated translations and could have been released earlier and more often.

atlochowski 2019-07-17 07:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzillogic (Post 1558403)
3.0.3.8 was released as early access almost three months ago. I'd say we already waited much longer that usual. What irks me the most, is the lack of communication. What irks me the second most, is that they probably (hopefully) sit in a ton of bugfixes which don't need any updated translations and could have been released earlier and more often.

Don't expect communication from Jolla side. They are focused on their buissnes pratners not on community. Maybe some Jolla devs like to say more but they can't because of inverstors. From begining community want Jolla to be more transparent, but it will never happen. Communication is getting worse and worse, especially after financial crisis couple years ago.
You can complain about lack of communication but it will change nothing.

aQUICK1 2019-07-17 13:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by atlochowski (Post 1558411)
Don't expect communication from Jolla side. They are focused on their buissnes pratners not on community. Maybe some Jolla devs like to say more but they can't because of inverstors. From begining community want Jolla to be more transparent, but it will never happen. Communication is getting worse and worse, especially after financial crisis couple years ago.
You can complain about lack of communication but it will change nothing.

As our Euro songfestifal winner Duncan Laurence would say:

ITS A LOSING GAME !

For us users/dev fans but also for Jolla itself.

juiceme 2019-07-17 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzillogic (Post 1558403)
3.0.3.8 was released as early access almost three months ago.

I'd say it is more or less 68 days ago. That's what the uptime of my device is and I only ever reboot at updates. (Could be I did not update the same day Hossa came out though, cannot remember)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzillogic (Post 1558403)
I'd say we already waited much longer that usual. What irks me the most, is the lack of communication. What irks me the second most, is that they probably (hopefully) sit in a ton of bugfixes which don't need any updated translations and could have been released earlier and more often.

As already pointed out nothing special happens in finnish companies during june and july; people are more disposed at enjoying the sun and beer so nobody cares about updates or anything really. When the weather starts cooling down we'll get back to serious business. :p

meloferz 2019-07-17 21:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1558420)
I'd say it is more or less 68 days ago. That's what the uptime of my device is and I only ever reboot at updates. (Could be I did not update the same day Hossa came out though, cannot remember)









As already pointed out nothing special happens in finnish companies during june and july; people are more disposed at enjoying the sun and beer so nobody cares about updates or anything really. When the weather starts cooling down we'll get back to serious business. :p

That's why European companies are losing with Chinese and American companies... While European are in vacation others are making innovations

Enviado desde mi H3123 mediante Tapatalk

Fuzzillogic 2019-07-17 21:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1558420)
I'd say it is more or less 68 days ago. That's what the uptime of my device is and I only ever reboot at updates.

https://together.jolla.com/question/...tes-303-hossa/

April 24 (I count since EA), so 85 days, almost three months :P

pichlo 2019-07-18 06:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1558420)
I only ever reboot at updates.

Lucky you. I have to reboot every time I notice that Exchange stopped syncing, which is every 2-3 days.

pagis 2019-07-18 10:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1558424)
Lucky you. I have to reboot every time I notice that Exchange stopped syncing, which is every 2-3 days.

no need to reboot you can restart exchange from command line:

Code:

systemctl --user restart sailfish-eas

pichlo 2019-07-18 14:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pagis (Post 1558426)
no need to reboot you can restart exchange from command line:

Code:

systemctl --user restart sailfish-eas

Thanks, pagis. To be fair, "hold a button, tap" is quicker than "open Terminal, squint at the tiny letters, type some incantation hoping I did not make a mistake because I won't see it if I did, cross fingers" :D

lantern 2019-07-18 16:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1558431)
Thanks, pagis. To be fair, "hold a button, tap" is quicker than "open Terminal, squint at the tiny letters, type some incantation hoping I did not make a mistake because I won't see it if I did, cross fingers" :D

You know, that you use Sailfish OS, right?
There's ShellEx app, that automates such things.
1 tap, also, and no wait for 3 minutes to reboot, while also closing everything open.

carlosgonz 2019-07-18 17:23

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sailfish os 3.1.0 is out. = )

juiceme 2019-07-18 19:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1558424)
Lucky you. I have to reboot every time I notice that Exchange stopped syncing, which is every 2-3 days.

Well yes I suppose so.
Thing is I don't use exchange-thing. For the company mails I need to read so urgently I cannot wait to fire up my laptop I'm reading with the MS web-office mail :)

As a matter of fact I noticed last week that my journal had stopped updating, I guess there's a limit it stores entries and then it just freezes there; no log rotation?

However even that was no reason to reboot, I just did "devel-su systemctl restart systemd-journald" and it started to flow again.

juiceme 2019-07-18 19:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meloferz (Post 1558421)
That's why European companies are losing with Chinese and American companies... While European are in vacation others are making innovations

You're probably correct there, but you know what, I don't care! :p
I'm happier relaxing at least during the summer than running rat-race around trying to innovate and make the capitalists happy.

juiceme 2019-07-18 19:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlosgonz (Post 1558433)
sailfish os 3.1.0 is out. = )

Damn, again my uptime will be zeroed...
I was so hoping I'd get to 100 days this time :(

wolke 2019-07-18 19:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meloferz (Post 1558421)
While European are in vacation others are making innovations

hey, ever try to get something done in china in february?

Fuzzillogic 2019-07-18 20:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1558437)
Damn, again my uptime will be zeroed...
I was so hoping I'd get to 100 days this time :(

I hope you never reach 100 days! (If that means there hasn't been an update in 100 days)


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