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lantern 2019-09-30 17:22

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
that doesn't mean anything for AD

but dreaming... they said they're gonna make an announcement in next blog post.

MartinK 2019-10-01 12:20

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1560714)
Does this mean we can dream on a Xperia X AD update do Android 8.1?

We have dreamed of this fox quite a while already - 4.4 kernel & binaries have been available for the Xperia X for quite a while already & that should be the minimum needed to spin up a Android 8 API level AD solution similar to what XA2 has. Not to mention various hardware support fixes reportedly present in the new kernel & binary bundles.

Hopefully Sony still releasing kernel builds & binaries for Xperia X is a good sign of the devices still being perfectly viable & we will get also some reaction from Jolla or other interested parties that can do something about this. :)

lantern 2019-10-01 14:30

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
It would be nice if Jolla posted how many X's and XA2's are using SFOS now. Maybe not exact numbers, but % of the whole base.
So we could see ourselves if it makes sense to update it.

Also I'd really like to see Jphone numbers, too.

kaari 2019-10-04 15:29

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Does any know where you could buy sony xperia xa2, preferably in finland. Tried many places, but no luck. If not, it would be ok to buy someother place thats safe.

Pentona 2019-10-04 21:52

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaari (Post 1560850)
Does any know where you could buy sony xperia xa2, preferably in finland. Tried many places, but no luck. If not, it would be ok to buy someother place thats safe.

New or used? I have one spare used blue one with Sailfish X.
It seems to be sold out in every store and operator in Finland.

peterleinchen 2019-10-06 19:17

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Someone interested in an as-new XA2+ ?
Less than 1y old, no scratches or failures, 100% working, only occasionally used as Android (still 8) surfing device, never left the house, charged maybe 20times (felt, or even less), bootloader free to unlock (not done as SFOS was in bad state and now using XA2, which looks worse after 4 weeks :)).
Not for bargainers (web surfing on such screen is more fun). PM me with offer.

pichlo 2019-10-07 13:15

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
I know this has been asked a million times, because that's what I found - about a million questions. What I must have missed is the answer: is there a working FM radio app for Xperia X? The only FM radio I found in Openrepos is PirateFM, which AFAIK, is for a different hardware.

meloferz 2019-10-07 17:42

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1560908)
I know this has been asked a million times, because that's what I found - about a million questions. What I must have missed is the answer: is there a working FM radio app for Xperia X? The only FM radio I found in Openrepos is PirateFM, which AFAIK, is for a different hardware.

Nope, there is no app for Xperia X [emoji3525] even for Xperia XA2 family

Enviado desde mi Xperia XA2 con Sailfish OS mediante Tapatalk

mariusmssj 2019-10-11 13:29

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
any news on when we could be seeing the new 3.2.0 update?

nikos523 2019-10-28 23:34

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Hey guys.
I'm experiencing some audio delay with the android YouTube app on my XC.
The audio is a bit slower and can be annoying.
Does anyone know any workarounds or maybe a version of the app that works as it should?
Thanks!

Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

lantern 2019-11-07 10:55

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
https://hh.ru/vacancy/34362961

OMP is looking for an engineer to develop a chromium-based browser.

junge 2019-11-07 15:32

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1560908)
I know this has been asked a million times, because that's what I found - about a million questions. What I must have missed is the answer: is there a working FM radio app for Xperia X? The only FM radio I found in Openrepos is PirateFM, which AFAIK, is for a different hardware.

It seems to be a deeper problem, as you can see in the 3.2 release notes again:
Known issues specific to Xperia X
Not implemented features: NFC, FM radio, double-tap, step counter


If I remember right, even the default media player would play FM radio, if it gets implemented.

lantern 2019-11-13 10:32

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Does anybody know why there are some XZ2 family commits in mer?

3.2.0 changelog:
Quote:

[vendor/oss/fingerprint] tama: Continue capturing when return code equals 3.
[vendor/oss/fingerprint] tama: Keep awake for as long as possible before entering capure state.
[vendor/oss/fingerprint] tama: Put sensor in awake state before blocking on finger events.
[vendor/oss/fingerprint] tama: Swap sensor_wake and wait_finger_lost (again), poll on IRQ.
hybris-boot commit:
[akari] Add Sony Xperia XZ2 to fixup-mountpoints

kinggo 2019-11-13 12:18

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
they've been there for ages. At some point I wondered why does Jolla bother with newest midranger every time since for the same money one can get few moths old flagship which is better device.
Design is better on XA2 IMO, and there's 3.5mm jack but I paid my XZ2 300€ (with free XM2 headphones) at a time when XA2 was retailing for more than that.

lantern 2019-11-13 14:15

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
these are fresh commits

found, that somebody's working on porting to xz2, apparently
https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-tama/

P@t 2019-11-13 15:52

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1561936)
these are fresh commits

found, that somebody's working on porting to xz2, apparently
https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-tama/

I believe the someone is @rinigus ;-) and afaik it is not an official porting

stickymick 2019-12-14 20:30

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
So, after literally months of searching without success I finally find a Bluetooth micro keyboard. :)
The question is, will this work with an Xperia X?

https://www.wish.com/product/5a4306dc061be9108ba2c015

peterleinchen 2019-12-14 21:24

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1563296)
So, after literally months of searching without success I finally find a Bluetooth micro keyboard. :)
The question is, will this work with an Xperia X?

https://www.wish.com/product/5a4306dc061be9108ba2c015

Hmm, need an account to see this? :confused:

kinggo 2019-12-14 23:53

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1563297)
Hmm, need an account to see this? :confused:

you don't. FF with just right click will do wonders if you block all overlay content :D

stickymick 2019-12-15 05:15

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1563297)
Hmm, need an account to see this? :confused:

Whoops, sorry forgot about that. But the link is irrelevant really. The question is, does SailfishX support Bluetooth keyboards?

Bundyo 2019-12-15 09:57

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Last time I checked - it did.

stickymick 2019-12-16 01:25

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Once I get the keyboard I'll report back and let you know how it fares.
I'd actually like to modify a phone case so the keyboard is always at hand when the case is opened.

pichlo 2020-03-03 09:08

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
1 Attachment(s)
To amuse the community (sorry, wrong thread? :p), my battery puffed up so much that it popped open the back cover. A new battery is on order, ETA Thursday.

Attachment 40999

Good job I did not use the blighter for anything important. Primarily because of the size, though I am (very slowly) getting used to it. But also because of the keyboard. It may have been mentioned in the ~3000 posts, but the keyboard is missing the dictionary. Is that expected?

catbus 2020-03-03 14:40

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
^wtf??? Xperia? and that is quite new phone? ... quality of batteries is not good any more...

pichlo 2020-03-04 09:07

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1565880)
^wtf??? Xperia? and that is quite new phone? ... quality of batteries is not good any more...

Yup. To be fair, I bought it second hand, I don't know where it's been. And I use it primarily to play one (Android) game that eats batteries for dinner. 15 minutes on that game drains the battery from 100% to 80%. I need to charge it constantly. Perhaps not the best usage pattern to preserve the battery life.

EDIT:

Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1565874)
It may have been mentioned in the ~3000 posts, but the keyboard is missing the dictionary. Is that expected?

Can anyone comment on this? Is that expected? Is there a solution?

rob_kouw 2020-03-04 11:43

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1565874)
It may have been mentioned in the ~3000 posts, but the keyboard is missing the dictionary. Is that expected?

What do you mean exactly? On both my first Xperia as my current XA2 I get suggestions (from the dictionary I guess) while typing. In a lot of languages, certainly Dutch, English, Italian, French, German.

Amboss 2020-03-04 11:54

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Isn't the dictionary a separate module which comes only when you have the paid Sailfish version? Since it's optional maybe it' not installed?

pichlo 2020-03-04 12:15

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amboss (Post 1565908)
Isn't the dictionary a separate module which comes only when you have the paid Sailfish version? Since it's optional maybe it' not installed?

I have a paid Sailfish license. The keyboard came without a dictionary.

Some keyboards are without a dictionary even on my Jolla (e.g. Czech), but on my X all of them are.

acrux 2020-03-04 13:32

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1565909)
I have a paid Sailfish license. The keyboard came without a dictionary.

Some keyboards are without a dictionary even on my Jolla (e.g. Czech), but on my X all of them are.

And you have installed the Predictive text input from the Jolla Store?

pichlo 2020-03-04 14:09

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acrux (Post 1565910)
And you have installed the Predictive text input from the Jolla Store?

I did not know I was supposed to. No one told me, until you now. I do not have it installed on my Jolla. Heck, it isn't even offered on my Jolla.

Anyway, I have installed it now and... no dictionary yaay! A dictionary appeared after a reboot.

Thanks, acrux, after nearly a year and a half, you have single-handedly made my X usable! :D

juiceme 2020-03-04 14:15

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1565911)
Thanks, acrux, after nearly a year and a half, you have single-handedly made my X usable! :D

Hehee, that is one of the hard-to-master, very essential skills; how to ask the useful questions! :p

wolke 2020-03-04 16:45

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1565909)
I have a paid Sailfish license. The keyboard came without a dictionary.

dunno if the below is your problem, but it seems like it MIGHT be, if predictive text really isnt in your store:

you need to buy 1 license per device. if you use it on one device, and lose it and replace with a new device with a new IMEI, you need to contact jolla and ask them to clear the old IMEI from you license key.

both predictive text and aliendalvik will be missing from the store UNLESS you are logged in on a jolla account that has a license key that matches your current IMEI.

you can also just find+install the rpm without purchasing a license, if you enjoy stealing from the best android competitor that currently exists. (i did this, when i switched from X to Xcompact, so that i didnt have to bother asking them to remove my IMEI. i downloaded it on the old phone, copied it to the new, then reflashed android and sold the old phone)

pichlo 2020-03-04 19:08

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1565914)
Hehee, that is one of the hard-to-master, very essential skills; how to ask the useful questions! :p

I know. I just did not care enough, since I did not use the phone that much :D
I just considered it one of those things, like the audio is too quiet in vide recordings that everyone tells me is a known bug that no one cares to fix.

@wolke, Predictive Text was available for my X. I just did not know I needed it. I is not in Store when I visit it from my Jolla 1, but then it is not needed, since on that phone the keyboard has a dictionary. Curioser and curioser.

pichlo 2020-03-04 20:13

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1565874)
A new battery is on order, ETA Thursday.

Battery arrived ahead of schedule. It looks about 1 mm shorter than the original but fits perfectly. Removing the old one was a bummer, as it was stuck with a double-sided sticky tape, but... the operation was successful, the patient is alive! I am typing this on my fixed Xperia X with a keyboard with a dictionary. What more can an old geezer want? :D

juiceme 2020-03-04 20:56

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1565924)
Battery arrived ahead of schedule. It looks about 1 mm shorter than the original but fits perfectly. Removing the old one was a bummer, as it was stuck with a double-sided sticky tape, but... the operation was successful, the patient is alive! I am typing this on my fixed Xperia X with a keyboard with a dictionary. What more can an old geezer want? :D

Nice!

I'm glad your device did not bend or otherwice get damaged when the old battery ballooned up. Did you manage to get it back together to as fit a form it was originally or are there any cracks in the seams of the back cover?

pichlo 2020-03-04 23:07

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1565927)
Did you manage to get it back together to as fit a form it was originally or are there any cracks in the seams of the back cover?

No cracks. The puffed up old battery helped by popping the back cover for me. The cover holds just by a thin (~1 mm) strip of double-sided tape around the edge. I may replace it one day with a new one if I can be bothered, but for now it is good enough and anyway, I keep it in a flip case which helps to hold it together.

mrsellout 2020-03-06 07:56

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
I spoke to a Samsung phone repairer the other day, and he said one little trick with reassembling phones is to heat it once you've put the back on again to get it to stick properly.
A lot of the vids only show that it needs heating to open them up.

pichlo 2020-03-06 21:24

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1565962)
I spoke to a Samsung phone repairer the other day, and he said one little trick with reassembling phones is to heat it once you've put the back on again to get it to stick properly.
A lot of the vids only show that it needs heating to open them up.

Aahhh, that's sorted, then 15 minutes of playing my game heats it up enough :D

mousse04 2020-03-09 20:43

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Hi all,
do you know if there is a way to change the screen lock of the android layer?
Some android apps do not work if there is no android screen lock.
I've tried with the Aliendalvik Control from @Coderus, but when clicking on "setting a screen lock", nothing can be done.

lantern 2020-03-13 10:54

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
is there any app that starts a web server on a phone in a selected dir, so I can connect there and download files?

I know that python SimpleHTTPServer could do it, but maybe there's a gui app already...


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