Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

A merge between Sailfish or Meego features among other apps and UI experience would be such a remarkable noticeable device comparing to a normal UI repeated one.

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

what does Meego provide that SFOS doesn't do?

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

Geek cred?

No, I actually have the same question.

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

VoIP SIP Integration on UI (love the N9 for this) for example.
Offline Navigation (yes i now ;)

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

More intuitive and polished ui, and also availability, and not tied to any country based os (15000 bla bla bla phones sold to bla bla bla country)

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

street cred?

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

Regarding the messaging/voice methods integration; nothing there that's somehow "Meego-related" that SFOS could not provide if Jolla just wanted to implement it.

Same with offline navigation, nothing "Meego-related" there. Offline navigation was laready implemented on Symbian and has been possible for ever on any OS you wish to name.

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

Does SFOS have less niche cred than Meego did? Really?

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

It's a relevant question;
it'd be interesting to know how many n9 in total got sold (Edit : to answer that question)...

Plugin-based architecture of MeeGo was paramount imo (even tho you had to hack it most of the times to enable it's full potential)

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You can get both on Sailfish but you have to install the SIP support yourself. No idea why Jolla doesn't include it.

The interface of Sailfish is exactly the same. Except MeeGo's back button, which became a swipe, and thus more intuitive and polished.

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

if you meant harmattan, then swipe ui > sailfish os IMHO
it felt simpler, and useful

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By my quick no-real-data-pull-from-stetson estimate I'd say there were at least several million sold N9 units. (which was just peanuts compared to the amount of devices Nokia sold that time when it was at the prime of the mobile phone business...)

That compared to the estimate of 50k...80k Jolla sbj1's sold means that N9's are about 1,5 orders of magnitude more common.
(which is huge difference indeed...)

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

why not port harmattan ui to sailfish, use it in nokia and move on ?

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except there's no sign of current nokia (or HMD?) co-operating with sailfish
I don't mind using a closed-source solution, so it would be nice if they port swipe-ui to android (tho it would clash with certain parts of material design)
also at one point nokia made zlauncher, and some people actually sent a feature request to port swipe over, but since the launcher looks half-dead now ....

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Because MeeGo.
The whole SwipeUI was originally conceived on top of MeeGo, which itself was a layer on top of Qt. Porting Swipe UI would mean port MeeGo, in short, with all the goods and the bads.
SFOS is meant to go the smarter way and use Qt as foundation, not some half-baked utility layer (of which albeit some parts were ok).

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

Nemo has mostly the same user experience as Harmattan considering it is Meego's de facto sucessor, any help to polish the system is always welcome and contributions are always appreciated :)

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I dunno, but meego in n9 way more beautiful imho

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No, it's only the crisp & bright OLED display of N9 what you are comparing to a not-so-top-of-the-line LCD display of sbj1

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I´m agree. OLED is a Killer Feature from N9
Yes i can install sofia-SIP but for this i wrote VoIP integration ON UI

I dont like to have an SIP-App, I like to have Contact-List with Numbers on normal telefonie and SIP (and Skype for these that still use Skype)

For me its not an Propblem if Nokia put Maemo or Sailfish on there Phone but mit N9 like UI

Or put N9 UI under GPL and publish Sources

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And I'm comparing sailfish with my bb z10, no contest, bb10 win, it's lcd btw, n9 ui > bb10 > sailfish, that's my opinion, give harmattan sd 820 and full HD lcd display, your sailfish have no chance at all

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

Huh?
Harmattan sources were all available afaik (except hw drivers)

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

Actually lot of the middleware is still closed. Think about, for example the emoji handling bug in N9 where received message is silently discarded if it contains some special characters.

The fix by @thp is a binary patch on top of the messaging system, and why? Because sources for the original are not available... :(

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

is that middleware part of harmattan? or odm specific?

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

The whole Meego/Harmattan OS/Middleware/Interface combo was in a sense "ODM specific" since there only ever were 2 devices released, N9 and N950 which both came from the same "ODM", namely Nokia :D:D:D

There were open parts of course, the kernel and quite a few OS components. I still have the source DVD somewhere... However massive amounts of stuff were never released in the open.

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We talk nonsense here, will never happened at all, except all the developers going away from the 'comfort' zone of iOS + droid, how sad is that? We almost have no choice, go for iOS or droid only ( recently)

Build up a new harmattan on newest hardware available, throw that 1020 camera in, and gives all developer big amount of money to develop on this platform, and give them benefit from app 'market/store'...dream...now let's sleep...again

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

Nonsensical choice, let's just say I ain't taking that pill :D


build up... throw in... give money... ?
Who exactly are you talking about here now, have you not heard the news yet; Nokia is not in the mobile phones business anymore.

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

Who exactly are you talking about here now, have you not heard the news yet; Nokia is not in the mobile phones business anymore.[/QUOTE]

Tell that to op, and who exactly are you? Are you nokia themselves?

Re: Why not give it a try? "Meego OS for Nokia Smartphones 2017"
 

No, of course not. My opinions are not Nokia's opinions and so on, the standard disclaimer text applies here. I of course know nothing of business decisions as being on the very lowest level possible. :D