I don't personally have all the answers. My post was in recognition that if Nokia want to use Ovi, then like Quim said, I think most regular users will prefer the way Ovi presents apps versus the app manager or using apt-get. My preference is open source apps (versus commercial apps) and if Nokia want to use Ovi for Maemo then there is a danger that if a solution to getting individual devs to put apps on Ovi is not found, that many users may not even see the great free community apps on Extras. I see Ovi as giving greater visibility, not destroying the work of Extras. Maybe Ovi will simply link to Extras anyway, both continue to exist, one serving the other. Rich