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I've been following this story recently and I'm very concerned about the potential harm to streams I enjoy over the N800 (like Live365). We need to make a lot of noise about this!

LAS VEGAS, Nevada (AP) -- Internet radio broadcasters were dealt a setback Monday when a panel of copyright judges threw out requests to reconsider a ruling that hiked the royalties they must pay to record companies and artists.

A broad group of public and private broadcasters, including radio stations, small startup companies, National Public Radio and major online sites like Yahoo Inc. and Time Warner Inc.'s AOL, had objected to the new royalties set March 2, saying they would force a drastic cutback in services that are now enjoyed by some 50 million people. (Time Warner is also the parent company of CNN.)

In the latest ruling, the Copyright Royalty Board judges denied all motions for rehearing and also declined to postpone a May 15 deadline by which the new royalties will have to be collected.
Full story: http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/interne....ap/index.html
 
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Texrat,

Unrelated, but...

How did you get Live365 to stream more than 30 seconds? I can get the media player to come up when I click on one of my favorites, but the stream ends and 30 seconds.

** Sorry to hijack the thread with this question.

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Rick, I didn't do anything special. It just worked. Not sure why you're having trouble, sorry.
 
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Live365 worked fine for me as well.

I hate to see Internet broadcasters take such a hit. Perhaps some Internet organization should designate a list of Internet Enemies, which would be legislators especially targeted for defeat in coming elections. The issue would not be just Internet taxation, but Internet freedom in general. If there is an appropriate organization particularly concerned with these types of issues, will someone give me its url? Thanks!
 
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You know, after posting, I went back and tried again. On certain stations I still get the 30 seconds, then stopping, but on others it works ok. In most cases, once the buffer has played, it stops. Then I have to hit play again for it to finally play correctly. Interestingly, when I do that, the stream title changes from what it was to "Operator 14804 (unknown artist), error..." but still manages to play the stream.

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Please do not hose the thread start a new one with your issues.

@Texrat... They have been at this B$ for a long time as a matter of fact they had hit a few streaming radios allready!!!
F*U*C*K the IRAA!!!!!
Damn pigs.. sorry but I just hate those money hungry bastards!
 
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It's amazing. It just seems a few years ago Congress was still touting the Internet as an evolving ecosystem that needed to be kept free of antiquated constraints. Now we see government support for a tiered infrastructure (!!!) and what amounts to a penalizing tax on content servers.

*sigh*...

Oh, and for the record: as an artist/writer I wholeheartedly support royalty streams for creators-- but I think we all know where the money in question is going, and it's not so much to them.

PS: note the list of petitioners. Very strange bedfellows! That odd collaboration *should* set off alarms in the minds of regulators and legislators...

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I am all out against it. Streaming Radios are not sharing music but streaming it just like a radio.
 
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Originally Posted by SeRi@lDiE View Post
I am all out against it. Streaming Radios are not sharing music but streaming it just like a radio.
But even radio pays royalties, which is why they have to keep logs of what's played. The problem is that the rates are being raised to prohibitive levels for the Internet providers.
 
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Microsoft, Yahoo and others with deep pockets are becoming involved with the intention of submitting a bill to congress. From Bill Goldsmith who owns radioparadise.com, posting yesterday after the final announcement:

The first step is for us to get a bill introduced in Congress. That will be the first thrust of the lobbying effort of the SaveNetRadio coalition. This will be funded by some of the "deep pockets" with a stake in this issue (Yahoo, Microsoft, etc), so it has a decent chance at success (in DC, money = power).
Even the artists oppose this decision.

I've bought more CDs because of the music I've been able to listen to on internet radio than I ever did (and would) buy if I had to listen to FM/AM radio (which I haven't listened to in about 7 years).
 
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