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    mikecomputing | # 3701 | 2011-06-04, 08:16 | Report

    Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
    Let's hope for it, but he doesn't look like the type to promote Linux so far.

    The situation with N9 is strange somewhat. On one hand someone said in this thread above, that consumer device was pushed (ditching the hw keyboard one) in order to attract "mainstream" consumers. On the other hand Meego itself is pushed to the corner as a experiment/research project, and WP7 is assigned the consumer attraction role in Nokia. So why can't N9 come out with keyboard then anyway? It'll work perfectly as an experiment. I'm pretty confused about that.
    this is not confusing et all. Nokia needs to release something fast. Something that consumers want. Something that sell well in a short run.

    NOT something a small group of geeks want.

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    OVK | # 3702 | 2011-06-04, 08:16 | Report

    Originally Posted by Koajwujwer123 View Post
    no no.. no customization here. For that you keep N900 , classic phone !! But its okay , its still very nice.
    This is going to drive away a lot of users that love Maemo because of the ability to customise and make the device "my own". Oh well, we are a minority anyway so I understand the rationale behind this design decision.

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    Soppa | # 3703 | 2011-06-04, 08:56 | Report

    Originally Posted by morbid View Post
    Yeah... that was a depressing reality. I had several managers at work asking about my phone. They said they liked it and liked that it had a physical keyboard. But when they asked where they could get one, I suggested they keep looking at phones... the N900 wasn't really an appropriate device for them.
    I thought too that this phone would be only suitable for geeks and hackers, until my father-in-law suddenly decided to purchase it. He's in his 60s and uses desktop computer only to browse the web, pay the bills etc., doesn't have any deep knowledge into any computer/geek stuff. He absolutely loves the N900, even with the quite short battery life it has. He loves the web browsing on it, and the fact that he can watch movies /w subtitles on it (I copy them on his device for him), enjoys the camera etc. etc. etc. In fact I've only heard him praise the phone, not a single negative thing.

    So it can work for the ordinary non-nerdy folks out there too. And probably does a lot more than what the general consensus on these forums appears to be.

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    Andrew_b | # 3704 | 2011-06-04, 09:00 | Report

    Originally Posted by Koajwujwer123 View Post
    no no.. no customization here. For that you keep N900 , classic phone !! But its okay , its still very nice.
    I find this surprising for a future disruption niche device exploring the viability of an alternative OS. Even Symbian 3 has widgets and is apparently moving towards better customisation of the desktop beyond its current grid system. Nokia put out the N900 like a ball of clay. They must have been silently observing the community and seeing exactly what's possible. Result: N900 functionality has evolved in all directions way beyond it's original parameters. Surely this community driven evolution of a flexible device is the perfect way of understanding how people use mobile computing devices and seeing what they want when they can almost have anything they want?

    Without supplying the new Harmattan device as completely flexible they will learn nothing from it.

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    onethreealpha | # 3705 | 2011-06-04, 09:05 | Report

    Originally Posted by Brock View Post
    960*540 (my guess)

    @vegas and everybody:

    lets talk about the name...

    at the moment my names were:
    Consumer Device: N9
    Dev-Device: N950 (as a successor of N900)

    But, Ion sounds nice, would like to have the first nokia phone with a real name instead of a number...

    so, if everyone agrees, we could call it ion here in the future...!?
    Painful Rectal Itch - with a name like that It's gotta be good

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    Andrew_b | # 3706 | 2011-06-04, 09:06 | Report

    On the other hand, what interest does a mobile phone manufacturer have in producing a premium phone whose functionality and usefulness can be extended beyond two years?

    I know there's a load of Linux fans here, but take Windows XP as an example of user inertia and the last thing a mobile phone manufacturer wants

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    tswindell | # 3707 | 2011-06-04, 10:02 | Report

    Originally Posted by Andrew_b View Post
    I find this surprising for a future disruption niche device exploring the viability of an alternative OS. Even Symbian 3 has widgets and is apparently moving towards better customisation of the desktop beyond its current grid system. Nokia put out the N900 like a ball of clay. They must have been silently observing the community and seeing exactly what's possible. Result: N900 functionality has evolved in all directions way beyond it's original parameters. Surely this community driven evolution of a flexible device is the perfect way of understanding how people use mobile computing devices and seeing what they want when they can almost have anything they want?

    Without supplying the new Harmattan device as completely flexible they will learn nothing from it.
    As the Harmattan device is still MeeGo Touch based (MTF) there is a high probability it wont have desktop widgets, what it does have, I believe, is the possibility of someone hacking it on later. We'll know more when Nokia release the updates to MTF which should be very soon.

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    vivmak | # 3708 | 2011-06-04, 10:03 | Report

    Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
    this is not confusing et all. Nokia needs to release something fast. Something that consumers want. Something that sell well in a short run.

    NOT something a small group of geeks want.
    Absolutely, a MAEMO 5 based device perhaps?

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    Helmuth | # 3709 | 2011-06-04, 10:31 | Report

    Perhaps NOKIA has learned to much from chinese copycats...
    ...and neither iOS nor Android is in my opinion the best UI concept ever.

    But not developers or customers decide. The Management and department chief decide. The guys that have developed themselfes Mobiles 15 years ago. And if iOS is successful they think this is the only way to go. But in my opinion thats not true. If so, who would buy something different? In this case Nokia could gave up immediately.

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    tissot | # 3710 | 2011-06-04, 10:41 | Report

    So far what i have been hearing example about multitasking it sounds 100x better than on Android and Ios.
    Only thing similar to iphone is that there isn't widgets for what we have heard so far.

    Imo it actually sounds like Nokia is making quite a bit different UI than others. Widgets aren't the only way to show up info.

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