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DeeGee is offline DeeGee
2011-07-16 , 18:54
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#111
So the exact model of the wl127x chip isn't known yet? There is 1271, 1273 and 1271L/1273L.
1271 only supports b/g/n @ 2.4Ghz + Bluetooth 2.1
1273 a/b/g/n @ 2.4/5Ghz + Bluetooth 2.1
1271L/1273L same as above + bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 Low Power

If it has 1271L/1273L, the reason it's listed only as 2.1 might be software/driver support.
Last edited by DeeGee; 2011-07-18 at 08:16. Reason: Clarification about the models
 
jalyst is offline jalyst
2011-07-16 , 19:03
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#112
Originally Posted by DeeGee View Post
If it has 1271/3L, the reason it's listed only as 2.1 might be software/driver support.
Yeah supposedly that was the reason it was only listed as 2.1...
Someone confirmed it had bt4 hardware, but I'm not sure it was based on solid info.
Plus the other day someone looked at the leaked service manual.
And they reckon it confirms only 2.1, yet to check for myself, got the manual.

See here for the manual:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...78#post1051378
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steveburczymucha is offline steveburczymucha
2011-07-17 , 17:38
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#113
Originally Posted by DeeGee View Post
So the exact model of the wl127x chip isn't known yet? There is 1271, 1273 and 1271/3L.
1271 only supports b/g/n @ 2.4Ghz + Bluetooth 2.1
1273 a/b/g/n @ 2.4/5Ghz + Bluetooth 2.1
1271/3L same as above + bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 Low Power

If it has 1271/3L, the reason it's listed only as 2.1 might be software/driver support.
Well, N950 release notes (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=74215) mentions

"N950 supports Bluetooth version 2.1+EDR, whereas N9 supports
version 4.0"

and I wander whether this is a typo or not. In the latter case N9 may be lacking software support: the chip is here but Bluetooth 4.0 features are not handled by software.

BTW: N9 comparing to N8 supports quite limited number of Bluetooth profiles. But Symbian is known to heave really broad support here.
 
jalyst is offline jalyst
2011-07-17 , 19:00
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#114
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
Yeah supposedly that was the reason it was only listed as 2.1...
Someone confirmed it had bt4 hardware, but I'm not sure it was based on solid info.
Plus the other day someone looked at the leaked service manual.
And they reckon it confirms only 2.1, yet to check for myself, got the manual.

See here for the manual:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...78#post1051378
Checked the manual...
There's no mention of 1271/3 or 1271/3L anywhere.
And the only talk about bluetooth is...

(1) To point out where the antenna is in an exploded view.
(2) To state the "official connections" again on the 1st page:

Connections:
WLAN 802.11 a/b/g/n
NFC (Near Field Communication)
Micro USB 2.0
Bluetooth 2.1
Stereo audio out via 3.5mm AV connector

I see nothing that disproves the theory that the hardware is actually BT4.
Nor prove it...
Hopefully I've missed something that proves it's there...
 
jalyst is offline jalyst
2011-07-17 , 20:16
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#115
This vid......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5224leqcOo

Says Australia will be the very 1st market? W00t!!!!!!
Trying to get info from the site that did the review, to find out what they base this on.
 
steveburczymucha is offline steveburczymucha
2011-07-17 , 21:32
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#116
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
I see nothing that disproves the theory that the hardware is actually BT4.
Nor prove it...
Hopefully I've missed something that proves it's there...
We have to wait till someone disassembles it ... or N9 dmesg output.

Edit:

N9 FCC Exhibits Report
http://goo.gl/Vsa18
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DeeGee is offline DeeGee
2011-07-22 , 16:52
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#117
With the 1273 chip basically confirmed with the support for a/b/g/n @ 2.4 and 5Ghz, it seems unlikely that N9 has Bluetooth 3/4. Only mention of WL1273L is on TI forums and they say that first samples of the chip will be on sale Q3 and production should start end of Q3/beginning of Q4.
Last edited by DeeGee; 2011-07-22 at 16:55.
 
morbid is offline morbid
2011-07-22 , 23:36
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#118
At least it's the 1273... even though the 1273L would be preferable. There are so many wifi networks around my house that 2.4GHz is almost useless. So I'd be happy that it can use 5GHz 802.11n.
 
jalyst is offline jalyst
2011-07-23 , 05:02
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#119
Wow that blows....
Any SoC's in the market with a/b/g/n + bt4 that are already rolled into phs, that are now purchasable?

Hopefully there's a chance 1273L will get rolled into slightly newer revisions of the N9?
Wishful thinking I guess

Anyone else having a prob dloading the pdfs from here via ff?
http://goo.gl/Vsa18

Originally Posted by steveburczymucha View Post
BTW: N9 comparing to N8 supports quite limited number of Bluetooth profiles. But Symbian is known to heave really broad support here.
Didn't realise that... that really blows too...
I thought N9 would be excellent in this area
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Jordi is offline Jordi
2011-07-23 , 21:26
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#120
Anyway, the most important BT profil is there: FTP
 
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