yeah they should hire some ex employee from MS as a CEO and make Windows Phones only like real men do

I think it's quite known that "better" doesn't always equate to better sales.

Maemo 5 was better than Windows Mobile 6.5. Willing to bet that WM6.5 sold better than Maemo 5.

I have Bada 2.0 beta on my Wave. Hands down, it is the best OS ever. Bada 1 was OK, premature but OK, but 2.0 got it all, even swipe This doesn't prevent me from getting the N9 though. One, maybe not essential but extremely cool thing about Bada 2.0 is that it connects wirelessly with any Samsung device with wifi or wired connection, and it is dead easy to use. For instance, you can use the Wave as a DLNA server and send pics, music, videos directly to the TV or DVD or receiver, or you can use any server available and send it to the TV or whatever. Everything controlled from the phone. Nokia had similar but not as capable functionality in the old Symbian, but some genius decided to remove it from Symbian^3. The N900 also have a simplified version, don't know about Harmattan. The main thing is that Bada 2.0 integrates seamlessly with any Samsung device (TV, PC, Receiver, DVD, radio) and work as a remote controller for a local Samsung network. How can any other manufacturer compete with this? Samsung got the best TVs, they got the best DVD players, best receivers, best toasters, best everything. Soon they will rule the entire phone industry as well.

Harmattan or MeeGo may be more capable OS than Bada on paper, but Samsung has figured out what people want, and everything is there in Bada 2.0 right out of the box. It is lightning fast, smooth and completely fluent even in beta. Android is an elephant in comparison, slow and laggy. Bada has been here only a year. It has had limited distribution from one single manufacturer on rather dull devices (except the Wave I), but has grabbed a 2% market share already. Samsung is destined to grow even more, and with Bada 2 on the Wave III it's time for some serious rock n roll.

I am starting to believe that Elop and company actually has done a serious error in their analysis. Android is not the main enemy, iPhone is not the main enemy. Samsung is the main enemy, and Bada is going to eat Androids and WPs for breakfast, and iPhone as dessert.

LOL, some rant, even for me But if you look past the present nonsense about Nokia and WP and killing of Symbian and Elop and all that. Samsung is not satisfied with Android in the long run. They want Bada and WP, and Nokia going WP - Samsung may actually do lots of work behind the scenes to make this happen. Google knows this and purchase Motorola.

Actually its back with the betalabs app Playto, works fine with my N8 and Samsung TV(server and playto, not controlling though)

This is what The MANY in the linux community thinks about Nokias decisions:

Just forward to about: 15.45 HELL elop should listen to them

http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/1...ne-las-s18e02/

Why didn't many more Linux users buy the N900? I mean... there's millions. Millions... but it didn't happen.

Money talks. Fanboys scream.

And Harmattan isn't fully open. Swipe isn't open at all. Those guys got it somewhat wrong.

I agree with that as well...that's why I'm curious to know why people are saying Bada is better..

@erricson
You're really oversimplifying a complexed business. You were impressed with Bada, no doubt...but you've made some serious assumptions there and I'm not really sure what they're based on.

and lol @ Bada selling better than WP7 being something to talk about. What is that, like 10 devices sold?

2.1 million Bada versus 1.6 million WP7 in terms of sales. Quote comes from Gartner.

I was having a laugh at WP7's expense, but now it seems I was having a laugh at Bada's expense as well?