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2007-12-12 , 21:14
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I don't think the camera is all that terrible. You definitely are not going to want to take your holiday photos with it and it does suck in low light (like most cameras ... that's why they have flashes) but for some purposes (photo-blogging, a site survey, simple portrait, etc.), it is quite adequate.

OS2008 with the latest Camera app finally is quite stable and takes decent shots. I think where the web cam will really shine is when (if?) they get video capture worked out as that is generally done at the lower resolutions that the cam is capable of.

Maybe with the boost in CPU speed and the faster file system, video streaming to flash memory will work better than previous attempts.
 
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2007-12-12 , 21:16
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Well..

a) It can do video calls with PC via Gizmo or over SIP in OS2008 currently. Personally I think video over SIP looks pretty good.
b) Flash not supporting webcams in Linux isn't unique to the N8xx's, they haven't added support yet for Linux.
c) If someone would make a Jabber client for the PC that supports jingle-video then there would be another usable option.
 
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2007-12-12 , 22:22
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Originally Posted by Moonshine View Post
b) Flash not supporting webcams in Linux isn't unique to the N8xx's, they haven't added support yet for Linux.
It is supported for Linux in Flash 9 if the camera driver supports some common APIs. But it is not working on Maemo.
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2007-12-12 , 23:07
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Noob question here... does the camera work in any of the IM programs for video chat, like I can do in Yahoo with my pc and webcam? Am I dreaming?
 
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2007-12-12 , 23:19
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Originally Posted by technut View Post
It is supported for Linux in Flash 9 if the camera driver supports some common APIs. But it is not working on Maemo.
That's news to me. I can't imagine anything more common then video4linux though, which I thought Maemo uses with the camera. (at least that Motion app posted a while used it in OS2007). Which would mean they litterally stripped it from the Flash implementation?
 
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2007-12-13 , 00:35
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Bug/enhancement filed here:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1889
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2007-12-13 , 00:41
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Moonshine, you got me digging again and I just found this:
Maemo 4.x > How to Use Camera API
which says "The built-in camera present in some Nokia Internet Tablet devices is compatible with Video-4-Linux version 2 API".

But Flash 9 is looking for Video-4-Linux version 1 API. So that may be the issue.
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2007-12-13 , 01:31
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Originally Posted by technut View Post
Moonshine, you got me digging again and I just found this:
Maemo 4.x > How to Use Camera API
which says "The built-in camera present in some Nokia Internet Tablet devices is compatible with Video-4-Linux version 2 API".

But Flash 9 is looking for Video-4-Linux version 1 API. So that may be the issue.
Uggg, that's amazing. It's much like how the tablets support jingle-video over Jabber, yet no PC client has support for it yet. How the tablets can be "ahead" of PC software is beyond me. I can only hope that flash and PC jabber clients will catch up.
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2007-12-13 , 02:54
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Originally Posted by Moonshine View Post
Well..
a) It can do video calls with PC via Gizmo or over SIP in OS2008 currently. Personally I think video over SIP looks pretty good.
Which software does Video over SIP in Linux on a PC with the N800? Ekiga? Linphone? ... ?
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2007-12-13 , 05:34
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Originally Posted by R-R View Post
Which software does Video over SIP in Linux on a PC with the N800? Ekiga? Linphone? ... ?
Ekiga might be a good one to try with Asterisk per:

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+video

I've been using Eyebeam on Windows so far. I have come across one thing that I think is a bug in OS2008 beta:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2446

So it's not perfect, but it's promising. I think the video looks pretty decent.
 
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