PortaDiFerro | # 5221 | 2011-09-05, 11:47 | Report

Nokia already "won" their patent arguments with Apple, which I would assume means cross-licensing, so Nokia in theory shouldn't have to worry about Apple patents.

abill_uk | # 5222 | 2011-09-05, 11:48 | Report

The "epic fail' comes from Nokia direct in this case and nothng to do with me i mght add, also i never had any intentions of selling N9's on this forum as i already have more than enough people who want them for whatever reasons.

I personally wll not buy it so your rant proves nothing Mike.

Am i the only one on this thread that has stated the demises of the N9? i think you better read from the begginng again so you now who has said what.

Your a clear meego fanboy and you hate any bad talk if it .

danramos | # 5223 | 2011-09-05, 11:53 | Report

Guys, guys...

marxian | # 5224 | 2011-09-05, 11:55 | Report

Some of us are capable of separating our personal feelings regarding Maemo and MeeGo from our opinions regarding the future. I like Maemo, and don't regret buying my N900. Based on my experiences with the N950, I'm not quite as keen on Meego-Harmattan (SwipeUX feels unfinished and less productive than Maemo). I still like it enough to buy an N9, were it not for the fact that it will have no manufacturer support. I don't want to risk having my faulty N9 replaced with a Windoze device in a few months time.

So, the first and only Meego-Harmattan device will be unsupported, and there are no Meego handsets on the horizon. That spells FAIL, no matter how much I might personally want Meego to succeed.

ericsson | # 5225 | 2011-09-05, 12:02 | Report

Why is marxian thanking you for this "useful" post

Anyway, what I said was that WP will eventually take over for the N9 or Harmattan if you will.

It is getting a bit clearer now. UK, Ge, Esp, NL and possibly It will get he first batch of WP phones, codename Searay. The rest of Europe, S America, Russia and Asia will get the N9. This will happen within a month. Sometime during the first half of 2012, the new Nokia WP flagships will arrive world wide incl USA.

Within a month we will also see the 600, 700 and 701 with Belle. In 2-3 months Belle will be available for all Symbian^3 devices. The new camera monster, the 801, will come soon as well, with Belle.

Harmattan/MeeGo will go away, but Swipe will not. Swipe is here to stay, it's a question of how and where.

danramos | # 5226 | 2011-09-05, 12:09 | Report

If I were to guess, it's probably because you were ambiguous enough to make it sound like WP7 was taking over the market generally or something like that--and he thought I was making a point. I'd tend to agree with that assessment but, in fact, I wasn't sure what you were explaining, since the numbers aren't showing WP7 taking anything over.

Ultimately, though, you're saying WP7 is supposed to take over the N9/Harmattan markets? I'm not sure how this translates, considering the N9 doesn't yet have a market (soon?)... and where it will be released, it's not really being replaced by WP7's--It's sold alongside. If you want to point out that it's going to outsell the N9's, I'd like to know where you got the numbers for EITHER sales so far. It would be interesting to watch as time goes on.

dtergens | # 5227 | 2011-09-05, 12:13 | Report

Well, sorry ladies & gentlemen, nothing has been announced on June 21, please everyone look at the red light :-)

marxian | # 5228 | 2011-09-05, 12:17 | Report

Because you have made a number of posts asserting that both WP and the N9 will be a success, without supplying any evidence to support those claims. All you have is a blind faith that Nokia and MS will somehow produce a miracle. Your arguments amount to 'WP is cool, therefore it will be a massive hit' or 'SwipeUX is cool, so the N9 will sell by the bucket load'. Perhaps that is the approach that is taken by the top brass at Nokia, which would explain their recent failures. Maybe they thought the N97 was cool.

Maybe right now, they are thinking 'SwipeUX is so cool, we don't need to bother marketing the N9. Hell, let's not even bother to sell it in most of the world. We can just sell it in Timbuctoo, and people from all over the world will buy one via some online retailer with no reputation'.

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danramos | # 5229 | 2011-09-05, 12:18 | Report

Oh! Well, since we're being random here....

rohit.hellboy | # 5230 | 2011-09-05, 12:22 | Report

Had it really been that, my problem would be solved. Without a N9 in the picture, I'd be more than happy buying a N900 and living with it. But the N9 videos hv been like tasting fresh blood and i really want one now.