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    abdu | # 1 | 2006-03-09, 17:49 | Report

    I tried both the built pdf viewer and eVince and my pdf reading experience
    just sucks. They are very slow in getting the next page up. I have to wait for at least 30 seconds for the next page to show up. Sometimes it takes a lot longer. That's even after splitting a pdf file to smaller pdf files of no more than 100 pages.

    Are there any other pdf readers which cache pages in the background for fast paging? What about xpdf.. is there a verion for the 770 out there?

    Abdu

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    Wooky | # 2 | 2006-03-12, 23:18 | Report

    Having tried Xpdf in a Dell X50v running at 600Mhz, I can say the following:

    There no crappy PDF viewers.

    PDF is a crappy format for PDA and Mobile devices.

    Question is, we tend to use pdfs as a format for viewing text *onscreen*, where it is (was?) intended to be a format to ease the exchange of documents meant to be *printed*. When you are reading an ebook or a manual in a PDA you are not concerned with a 1:1 relationship to the printed layout. Until recently I had to cope with a 233MHz Pentium I MMX at work (yeah, it sucks badly). Opening a pdf file took minutes. The format isn't suited for low specs devices.

    That said, among all the implementations of PDF readers for mobile device, I consider the N770 to be the best. It is much quicker than opening (native) pdf files in any other mobile platform. I could actually read Frank Herbert's Dune on it and it is a 600+ pages book, well over 2MB file. Sure, there is a considerable delay as you turn pages. But believe me, it is much better than any mobile solution. Adobe pdf reader for Palm cheats by converting the file, so they are not native pdfs.

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    champ | # 3 | 2006-03-12, 23:24 | Report

    The pdf reader that came with the Nokia 770 works fine for me. I don't have any lag inbetween changing pages, especially a 30 second lag.

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    Dirk | # 4 | 2006-03-13, 10:45 | Report

    You could try to use the pdftohtml program to convert pdf in css styled pages. I use this to convert my newspaper's pdf files to an easily readable format. This allows me to read my newspaper on the road with my 770. This works ok for me, although scaling it in Opera sucks.

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    Wooky | # 5 | 2006-03-13, 11:30 | Report

    FBreader also reads HTML files. And Plucker files as well. FBReader is a decente ebook viewer, but it lacks bookmarks and the ability to select text in order to paste in another app.
    But sometmes you just need to be able to view pdf files, without conversion. Also, pdftohtml doesn't always produces nice outputs, sometimes there are extra <br> tags and you have to fire up your l33t genexp sk1llz to track and get rid of them.

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    maxilogan | # 6 | 2006-03-13, 13:44 | Report

    Originally Posted by Wooky
    I consider the N770 to be the best. It is much quicker than opening (native) pdf files in any other mobile platform. I could actually read Frank Herbert's Dune on it and it is a 600+ pages book, well over 2MB file. Sure, there is a considerable delay as you turn pages. But believe me, it is much better than any mobile solution. Adobe pdf reader for Palm cheats by converting the file, so they are not native pdfs.
    I agree that Adobe for palm really sucke because there is no really matching between original document and the one you're viewing. In fact this doesn't matter until you read your PC Magazine last year reviews in PDF :-)

    My opinion is that the best PDF reader (and, above all, it reads lots of other formats) for the Palm platform is Picsel Viewer!

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    abdu | # 7 | 2006-03-27, 05:37 | Report

    Originally Posted by Wooky
    Having tried Xpdf in a Dell X50v running at 600Mhz, I can say the following:

    There no crappy PDF viewers.

    PDF is a crappy format for PDA and Mobile devices.
    I don't mind reading pdf files in their original format. I just need a zippy reader. One that can buffer pages in the background so I can read quickly.

    Did you try any pdf readers on Windows Mobile 5.0?

    abdu

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    yan | # 8 | 2006-03-27, 08:33 | Report

    Reading pdf files is essential for an handheld device, of course in my opinion.
    I always wanted to read pdf files not as their default layout but in a comfortably
    manner that is like html files. Adobe introduced for this scope "tagged pdf" file
    which add metadata informations to pdf files to support accessability.

    In Windows Mobile 5.0 un-tagged pdf file are converted to the tagged version
    via the ActiveSync, but the result is often not very good. Files that came originally
    in tagged pdf format are read very very well by the Pocket Acrobat Reader, but
    the characters are not anti-aliased like "xpdf" rendering. Pocker AcroRead is very
    fast. On my Axim x51v I use AcroRead in portrait mode because in landscape mode the screen is not comfortable.

    I would to ask, there is any pdf reader on the Nokia 770 that recognize tags on
    pdf file and which allow to adapt the page on the screen width independently from
    the char size without the need to scroll from left to right and viceversa?

    Thank in advance.

    Y

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    ziggamon | # 9 | 2006-03-27, 12:22 | Report

    I can just say that with swap enabled, the latest version of evince is very snippy for me!
    I spent two months reading lecture notes during the lectures, and it worked just fine!

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    abdu | # 10 | 2006-03-28, 01:25 | Report

    Originally Posted by ziggamon
    I can just say that with swap enabled, the latest version of evince is very snippy for me!
    I spent two months reading lecture notes during the lectures, and it worked just fine!
    What is "swap enabled"? How did you do it?

    A

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