there is less OMG teh IT suxxorrs get teh ifonzzz, and more somewhat rational discussion etc. I'm sure that those days are numbered and this place will get more and more crappy.
). I ended up trying Debian, playing around with it for a couple weeks then going back to RedHat because I was used to it. I got so fed up with the RedHat dependency situation that I think I switched back to Debian inside a day and comfort-level be damned. In all the operating systems I've ever used since then (Linux, Unix, *BSD, Windows and Mac) I have never found a package management tool I liked better than apt on Debian/Ubuntu.