Hedgecore | # 11 | 2007-12-24, 13:30 | Report

Just of note, for an extra $30 (amazon.com) you can get an iGo Stowaway Bluetooth Keyboard which will make the N810 drastically more usable for productivity. (Since you're comparing to an EEE I assume you've got somewhere to sit while using it.)

PolBit | # 12 | 2007-12-26, 13:57 | Report

Well, I actually got to play with EEE PC over Christmas Out of all the people in the world, my uncle got one about a week ago, and brought it over to show me... I have to say, a nice little laptop, but: it's actually bigger than I thought, and the keyboard really sucks. I've used HP Jornada 728 for a long time, and the EEE keyboard is much worse IMHO. And the placement of the right shift key... One positive thing - he had XP installed on it, and I was very impressed with speed - it was really responsive and fast.

Anyway, this is an N810 forum, so I just wanted to give a quick personal overview of the EEE. I ordered the N810, should be here in the next few days, I can't wait to play with it. I actually ordered the iGo keyboard too, can't beat the price and it looks usable.

Thanks everybody, I will report once I get the N810 in my hands

PolBit

luciditydigital | # 13 | 2007-12-26, 14:13 | Report

Ya, I use the Stowaway BT keyboard every day, and I like typing on it even more than my home PC. It is well worth the $60 or so.
-ezra hilyer

zakeen | # 14 | 2007-12-26, 14:19 | Report

Lets be honest, you have a laptop. So the Eee is out. Dont think because the Eee is smaller then your current laptop you will take it more with you. Its still a laptop. I have a Sony UX and I was thinking I would take it with me around, because its the smallest laptop you can buy. But it does NOT fit in my pocket, so I dont carry it anywhere. So then I take a bag and when that happens I just take my normal laptop.

If you have a laptop, then dont get an Eee and get the Nokia N810.

PolBit | # 15 | 2007-12-30, 03:16 | Report

Well, I got the N810 on Friday, and unfortunately it will be going back Monday. I guess I just wasn't prepared for how tiny everything is on the screen, and on the overall slowness of the internet. I am sure this is a great device for a lot of people, just not what I need.

I have spent good two hours playing with the Samsung Q1U-XP today at a store, and it is now charging at home... It is a lot bigger than the N810, so not really the same category, but for my needs it's the best I think I can get - just sucks that it was over $1000... The good thing is that since it is the reference platform for Ubuntu Mobile, I'll be able to play with full Linux on it.

Anyway, this is a great forum, thanks for all the info!

PolBit

luciditydigital | # 16 | 2008-01-02, 15:45 | Report

Sorry to hear that it doesn't work out for you, I suppose they aren't for everyone, but still I wish you would have given it a week and waited to see if it grew on you..
-Ezra Hilyer

tz1 | # 17 | 2008-01-02, 16:08 | Report

A fairly comprehensive comparison is at:

http://www.ultramobilegeek.com/2007/...nux-fight.html

I got the n810 - for being mobile (and I use a Cradlepoint with UM150 for EVDO - see evdoinfo.com for info).

The iGo $30 BT keyboard is a good addition for longer compositions (emails, comments, anything a paragraph or longer).

I got a closeout BT stereo headset (though I use it in the handsfree profile) for listening to internet radio and MP3s when I don't want to use the speakers. All work very well.

The n810 is slower, but far more usable for the common internet stuff. Plus I can run Gnumeric, xterm, xvnc and play linux hacker. It is on all the time, updating the RSS feeds. I didn't do that with my laptop (also had no internal bluetooth which limited audio). There are things like greasemonkey (block flash, free tables) and adblock plus, but not the dozens of extensions I regularly use with firefox. It easily finds and links up with bluetooth devices and wireless access points.

The EEE does have a PC architecture, so things like mplayer can use x86 codec DLLs from windows (they exist for ARM, but no Wine infrastructure for Windows mobile yet), or you can get WMP running under XP if there is media that is windows only. I could plug my EVDO wireless cell network modem into the EEE directly (I can plug it into the n810 as well, but I need to do some kernel hacking on cdc_acm.ko or the USB subsystem before it will work).

In sum, the EEE is a very small notebook, but still a notebook - you will have to add bluetooth, GPS, etc. and it won't fit in your pocket.

The n810 is a PDA/Internet appliance that you can take with you in your pocket, and you can accessorize (if your pockets aren't full) with the keyboard and headsets.

The n810's minimum footprint is MUCH smaller, but you can add things to make it nearly an EEE, but they can remain in your briefcase while the n810 will stay in your pocket.

One final point is that the screen on the n810 is transflective, so it can be read in sunlight, though as a practical matter, the colors fade so this applies more to reading or editing text than images, but I plan on using mine outside, and the only competition I know of are much bigger and more powerful tablet PCs costing over 3x (OQO2, TabletKiosk).

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sgosnell | # 18 | 2008-01-02, 18:08 | Report

I have both an EeePC and an N800. I probably spend 90% of my computer time on the Eee, using the N800 only when I don't have the Eee with me. The N800 fits in the pocket of my flightsuit, so I carry it with me, and I use it for playing .ogg files and for internet radio, but it's not that great for web browsing, or much of anything else. If it had decent PIM apps it would be much more useful. I want to use it as a replacement for my Palm, and for surfing it's orders of magnitude better, but it's also orders of magnitude worse for PIM stuff. I'll keep it, but until decent PIM apps arrive it won't get that much use. The Eee is so easy to carry, I keep it around most of the time.