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2012-01-27 , 15:09
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For me, Harmattan's glorious fate would be to seduce a community as great and talented as the N900, but I'm not seeing anything of the sort. Most seem to look at the N9 as a toy.
 
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2012-01-27 , 16:09
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Seems N9 was only brought to market due to contracts with Intel on Meego.
The deal Nokia made with MS is to go for WP, so that's what will happen.

I just hope this fantastic UI will live on in future devices. Cyanogen?
 
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2012-01-27 , 16:29
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No matter what people say about harmatan being dead it is still awesome as hell knowing that is outselling win phail.
 
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2012-01-27 , 16:44
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Originally Posted by Zoxir View Post
No matter what people say about harmatan being dead it is still awesome as hell knowing that is outselling win phail.
From Nokias Q4 statement:
Under Nokia's new strategy for smartphones, MeeGo will place increased emphasis on longer-term market exploration of next-generation devices, platforms and user experiences.
 
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2012-01-27 , 16:53
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Originally Posted by larsoy View Post
From Nokias Q4 statement:
Under Nokia's new strategy for smartphones, MeeGo will place increased emphasis on longer-term market exploration of next-generation devices, platforms and user experiences.
Plain English translation:
MeeGo has been kicked into the long grass.
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2012-01-27 , 16:55
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Originally Posted by marxian View Post
Plain English translation:
MeeGo has been kicked into the long grass.
or joining with S80 and S90 in the long term.
 
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2012-01-28 , 10:10
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I don't see how that is relevant to the point that I was making, which is that MeeGo-Harmattan is dead, regardless of how well the N9 sells vs WP devices.
Dead is an absolute term. This community will live on for at least five years. I've seen it so many times. Hell, closed source OS/2 is still going and they stopped selling it to end-users 9 years ago.

And Maemo is still vastly better than anything else out there apart from Meego.

So I'd use the term knee-capped.

Of course most smartphone buyers do not care which platform their device runs. However, they do care about availability of the applications/services that they are used to having, and MeeGo-Harmattan fails in this department because Nokia basically put up a big sign saying 'DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH MEEGO-HARMATTAN'.
Too true.

Also, the market for shiny smartphones is already oversaturated, which is why I think it was a mistake for Nokia to jump on the iClone bandwagon.
Nah the hardware is improving all the time, plus phones get damaged and lost/stolen. Also, people will replace them for fashion purposes.

Pretty much everyone needs a phone - and the marginal cost of it being smart will dwindle to almost nothing.

Look at the size of the growing Chinese market. India is following suit. Western markets will soon look tiny in comparison.
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2012-01-28 , 11:55
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Originally Posted by aRTee View Post
Seems N9 was only brought to market due to contracts with Intel on Meego.
The deal Nokia made with MS is to go for WP, so that's what will happen.

I just hope this fantastic UI will live on in future devices. Cyanogen?
I don't think it's about a contract with Intel. Intel is not interested in ARM phones, and the N9 runs Maemo instead of a real MeeGo anyway.

Probably the development of Harmattan was so damn expensive that bringing one of the Harmattan devices to market was required to get back the money.
Remember that MeeGo was once destined to become Nokia's main smartphone strategy, so they sure did put a lot of money behind it before switching to WP.
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2012-01-28 , 13:02
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I am wondering how an opensource project with a user/developers community can die ? Actually I am glad and surprised about N9 achievement , I did not expected this that quick I could have waited more years ..

I feel the main risk today is if this project is considered as a dissident then we'll have to face our new enemies...
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2012-01-28 , 13:45
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Originally Posted by www.rzr.online.fr View Post
I am wondering how an opensource project with a user/developers community can die ? Actually I am glad and surprised about N9 achievement , I did not expected this that quick I could have waited more years ..

I feel the main risk today is if this project is considered as a dissident then we'll have to face our new enemies...
easy, because it's not the opensource software that's in danger it's the availability of devices. If that is not maintained then neither is the software support as devices become dated or break, people will move on and the community will cease to exist.
 

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