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GrimyHR is offline GrimyHR
2012-01-29 , 09:15
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#31
Originally Posted by MartinK View Post
A more powerful tablet is still of no use if it just runs Android and not a proper Linux stack (kernel + userspace + GUI toolkits) and there is no source for the kernel (the problem Cordia faced with their tablet).
i know, but since we are talking about equaly cheap hardware, there is no sane reason not to use it, this soc has around 10% better qudrant result than the soc in n900 except in IO...so no reason for a n900 user to buy it
there is obviously a bottleneck in this soc which by my educated guess is not cpu or gpu but something else that cripples them...

rezults are from slatedroid
 
GrimyHR is offline GrimyHR
2012-01-29 , 09:26
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#32
only potentialy good thing i see here is that if this tablet is hardware wise same as some ultra cheap chinese one i can just pay 120$ for the tablet and tax to my country and than just put the OS from this one on it
 
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2012-01-29 , 09:44
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#33
Originally Posted by GrimyHR View Post
i know, but since we are talking about equaly cheap hardware, there is no sane reason not to use it, this soc has around 10% better qudrant result than the soc in n900 except in IO...so no reason for a n900 user to buy it
there is obviously a bottleneck in this soc which by my educated guess is not cpu or gpu but something else that cripples them...

rezults are from slatedroid
copied from slatedroid, best i can tell they are all devices based on the same SoC:
Code:
[2] Amlogic AM8726 - A9 @ 800 MHz or 1 GHz O/C + ARM Mali-400
*Great Linpack & CPU scores, great 2D, weaker I/O and good 3D.

7" Anku?
http://www.androidat...id=58&Itemid=70

Linpack: 21.6 Mflops
Quadrant: ???
CPU: 2655, Mem: 1297, I/O: 489, 2D: 236, 3D: 444

W10
http://www.pcpop.com.../657420_1.shtml

Linpack: 19 Mflops
Quadrant: 997
CPU: 2768, Mem: 1032, I/O: 501, 2D: 238, 3D: 447

Ten SmartQ (aml8726) (1024x768)
http://www.isyo.net/...php?tid-33.html

Quadrant: 2434
CPU: 2142, Mem: 1289, I/O: 8178, 2D: 120, 3D: 442
Neocore: 29.7 FPS

Zenithink C91 (aml8726 @ 1 GHz) (1024x600)
http://b.it168.com/t...714746-1-1.html

Quadrant: 1748
CPU: 2661, Mem: 935, I/O: 4627, 2D: 144, 3D: 373

Ainol NOVO 8 (1280x768)
http://micdigi.com/2...s-of-haipad-m8/
http://bbs.imp3.net/...315006-1-1.html

Quadrant: 2000
CPU: 2667, Mem: 1175, I/O: 5652, 2D: 99, 3D: 407
Neocore: 25.1 FPS
What is interesting that some report much higher IO than others. And that high IO seems to match out with low 2D performance. In the end i wonder if we are looking at more of a driver issue than a hardware issue.

Also, the Amlogic is clocked at 800Mhz, yet it appears to keep pace with A8 SoC clocked at 1Ghz or even 1.5Ghz in some cases:
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/2102...18#entry220518

But i don't mind, for me the benefits of a truly open stack (and the long term benefits of that) outweighs potential performance issues.
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GrimyHR is offline GrimyHR
2012-01-29 , 10:42
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#34
i also hope that its just a driver issue, since at least 3d performance should be almost twice than what it is, if it is and if its solved than i can think of this as a viable option to replace my n900... until then i wouldn't give even half of what they are planing to ask for it...
 
GrimyHR is offline GrimyHR
2012-01-29 , 11:13
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#35
found the same tablet: http://www.pandawill.com/upad7-table...ra-p50737.html
just look at the touch buttons in the photo in the first post and then the ones on this one that i linked...port positioning and everything else is also exactly same
just because i want a open source gnu/linux powered device, doesnt mean i will settle for sub par hardware for a steep price(when compared to what i'm getting for it...)

ups, didnt see someone posted this one already, so if this goes somewhere ill just buy this zenithink and flash their linux when they finish it
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2012-01-29 , 11:22
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#36
I think an allwinner a10 tablet that can be oc to 1.5Ghz with 1GB RAM would be nice for running linux as we got the kernel source for it, and the Mali400

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag..._reverse&num=1


http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/kernel_compile/
 

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2012-01-29 , 11:32
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#37
Originally Posted by hstende View Post
I think an allwinner a10 tablet that can be oc to 1.5Ghz with 1GB RAM would be nice for running linux as we got the kernel source for it, and the Mali400

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag..._reverse&num=1


http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/kernel_compile/
yes it would, and i don't want to insult anyone, but people behind this project are kinda *something insulting*...at least the one that chose the platform...
 
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2012-01-29 , 11:57
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#38
Will this be available worldwide and what's with them not announcing the OS this is based on?
 
MartinK is offline MartinK
2012-01-29 , 13:22
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#39
This is probably why it has the Mali 400 GPU:
An Open-Source, Reverse-Engineered Mali GPU Driver
Announcing The Lima Open-Source GPU Driver

So this thing really has the potential to be FULLY open source, without a closed GPU driver - which is major blocker in most other devices.
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2012-01-29 , 13:25
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#40
Originally Posted by Zoxir View Post
...and what's with them not announcing the OS this is based on?
What? They did announce it, in fact the excitement about this one device is only because of the OS, not because of the hardware.

 

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