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    Brian_7 | # 71 | 2012-02-04, 23:30 | Report

    Originally Posted by DavyP View Post
    Technically, I think it is possible to render the midlet on a 400x240
    or 266x160 canvas (rather than 800x480), and then have Qt
    scale up the resolution by a factor of 2 or 3. However, this is not
    implemented, so I am afraid there is currently no support for
    that.

    Davy
    At least with the last CSSU update, i am able to zoom in using ctrl+shift+s.

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    soleil | # 72 | 2012-02-05, 00:47 | Report

    I got opera.sh working and all other tests was successful.
    I has the grey bar issue on my N9 .
    Opera mini can display vietnamese font. How can I change the font on Opera Mini ?
    I'm trying to get other jar file working

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    santiago | # 73 | 2012-02-05, 10:57 | Report

    i think we missed some features like

    copy/paste option from the OS<->JVM
    the JSR implementation.. this is too important for a valid JVM

    but u made a great START with Phoneme i hope we can enjoy jsr support. thx for your WORK!

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    aRTee | # 74 | 2012-02-05, 21:44 | Report

    Could anyone give the one from this page a try:
    http://www.vbl.ch/getdoc/02801f6e-93...anleitung.aspx

    I'm getting some weird errors, for files I don't even see inside the jar, perhaps I'm not looking in the right place/way..?
    BTW I took the touchscreen (3rd) version.

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    DavyP | # 75 | 2012-02-05, 22:50 | Report

    Originally Posted by munozferna View Post
    Yes it is N9 specific I believe. You can see other screenshots here:

    http://beford.org/ole/

    I asked on the #harmattan IRC channel and somebody told me it was required to change the application type to MApplication.
    I installed Qt SDK 1.2 that got released a couple of days ago.
    I changed QApplication to MApplication, and linked against the
    meegotouchcore library, but the grey bar is still there in the
    N9 emulator (i.e. I see no difference with the Maemo build running on N9).

    Davy

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    DavyP | # 76 | 2012-02-05, 23:00 | Report

    Originally Posted by soleil View Post
    I got opera.sh working and all other tests was successful.
    I has the grey bar issue on my N9 .
    Opera mini can display vietnamese font. How can I change the font on Opera Mini ?
    I'm trying to get other jar file working
    I am working on a build that replaces the current font subsystem
    which uses a builtin monospace bitmap font (with limited
    character set) to render text.

    My latest 'unstable' snapshot now uses the default font on Maemo
    and supports more text styles and sizes. The text rendering looks
    much better, but rendering speed has become slower. I figured
    as much on the emulator, and [DarkGUNMAN] confirmed the
    performance hit on a real device too. However, should you care
    trying the latest snapshot yourself, you can find them over here:

    http://davy.preuveneers.be/phoneme/p...n900/unstable/

    The most recent build is on top.

    Davy

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    DavyP | # 77 | 2012-02-05, 23:12 | Report

    Originally Posted by aRTee View Post
    Could anyone give the one from this page a try:
    http://www.vbl.ch/getdoc/02801f6e-93...anleitung.aspx

    I'm getting some weird errors, for files I don't even see inside the
    jar, perhaps I'm not looking in the right place/way..?
    BTW I took the touchscreen (3rd) version.
    I just gave one of the midlets at the above url a try, and I too get
    errors about missing png images and text files that don't exist in
    the jar file.

    Davy

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    DavyP | # 78 | 2012-02-05, 23:54 | Report

    Originally Posted by santiago View Post
    i think we missed some features like

    copy/paste option from the OS<->JVM
    the JSR implementation.. this is too important for a valid JVM

    but u made a great START with Phoneme i hope we can enjoy jsr support. thx for your WORK!
    The original phoneME implementation does not come with copy
    paste support. Copying text in a midlet and pasting it to another
    Maemo application is technically pretty hard (because you cannot
    select text in a textfield or textbox). The other way around might
    be possible by trapping the Ctrl+V key combination, looking which
    text has been copied from elsewhere, and replaying this text as if
    you would have entered the text manually.

    I am well aware JSR support is limited. There are a bunch of
    JSRs out there that would be nice to have. Unfortunately, there
    aren't that many JSR implementations available as open source.
    The only ones that Sun/Oracle have made available are those
    that they 'own'. Have a look over here:

    https://svn.java.net/svn/phoneme~svn/components/

    Also, some of the JSRs you find there don't compile well or need
    detailed knowledge about the underlying platform so you can port
    these JSRs to a new device. This ain't easy, especially with just
    the emulator at hand. I am aware of projects like microemu and
    MIDPath. However, they have the luxury of being able to exploit
    all the features of a full Java SE environment. Many of their
    components would not work on a Java ME environment.

    Right now, I just have JSR 172 and JSR 75 (with some minor
    issues). Based on my experiences with porting for Windows
    Mobile and Android, I think JSR 179 (Location API) and audio
    playback with JSR 135 are doable given enough time and effort.
    However, I am not sure if the Madde emulator can handle all
    these features so that I would be able to test this. Things like 3D
    support with JSR 184 are out of the question.

    Davy

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    santiago | # 79 | 2012-02-06, 00:59 | Report

    Originally Posted by DavyP View Post
    The original phoneME implementation does not come with copy
    paste support. Copying text in a midlet and pasting it to another
    Maemo application is technically pretty hard (because you cannot
    select text in a textfield or textbox). The other way around might
    be possible by trapping the Ctrl+V key combination, looking which
    text has been copied from elsewhere, and replaying this text as if
    you would have entered the text manually.

    I am well aware JSR support is limited. There are a bunch of
    JSRs out there that would be nice to have. Unfortunately, there
    aren't that many JSR implementations available as open source.
    The only ones that Sun/Oracle have made available are those
    that they 'own'. Have a look over here:

    https://svn.java.net/svn/phoneme~svn/components/

    Also, some of the JSRs you find there don't compile well or need
    detailed knowledge about the underlying platform so you can port
    these JSRs to a new device. This ain't easy, especially with just
    the emulator at hand. I am aware of projects like microemu and
    MIDPath. However, they have the luxury of being able to exploit
    all the features of a full Java SE environment. Many of their
    components would not work on a Java ME environment.

    Right now, I just have JSR 172 and JSR 75 (with some minor
    issues). Based on my experiences with porting for Windows
    Mobile and Android, I think JSR 179 (Location API) and audio
    playback with JSR 135 are doable given enough time and effort.
    However, I am not sure if the Madde emulator can handle all
    these features so that I would be able to test this. Things like 3D
    support with JSR 184 are out of the question.

    Davy
    you're right... I have seen here in the talk tha someone has done something with the Openlapi and jsr 179.. To get working gps location antenna, by the way, the only possibility to get "partial" jsr support then can be using the jsr179? will be good having sound working i think the ctrl + v / ctrl + x / ctrl + c can be good for this powerfull jvm becouse some applets have a different input method and during the emulation you have no way to paste/insert caracters in the text field Thx for your detailed answer and for the support with phoneme!

    edit: i attached a sshot about the font and window of phoneme, i'm using your last versione the one with font changes.. but i see it in this way i mean big font size respetc to the layout

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    DavyP | # 80 | 2012-02-06, 11:15 | Report

    Originally Posted by santiago View Post
    you're right... I have seen here in the talk tha someone has done something with the Openlapi and jsr 179.. To get working gps location antenna, by the way, the only possibility to get "partial" jsr support then can be using the jsr179? will be good having sound working i think the ctrl + v / ctrl + x / ctrl + c can be good for this powerfull jvm becouse some applets have a different input method and during the emulation you have no way to paste/insert caracters in the text field Thx for your detailed answer and for the support with phoneme!

    edit: i attached a sshot about the font and window of phoneme, i'm using your last versione the one with font changes.. but i see it in this way i mean big font size respetc to the layout
    The text does not seem to be well-aligned in your screenshot. This is what I have:

    http://davy.preuveneers.be/phoneme/p...roemu-demo.jpg

    http://davy.preuveneers.be/phoneme/p...emo/opera2.jpg

    About audio support: I cannot seem to produce any sound with the emulator, not even with the built-in 'play-sound' application or the Qt4 qmusicplayer example application. I am guessing QSound in Qt4 is not properly supported for audio playback :-(

    /home/developer $ play-sound testmp3.mp3
    socket(): Address family not supported by protocol
    ca_context_open: Not available

    About GPS: Yes, JSR 179 would provide the unifying API to get location information. Any location provider could be plugged into JSR 179, but GPS is quite likely the most important one.

    I am aware of OpenLAPI. That is the implementation I used to support JSR 179 on my Android port. The only thing I need to figure out is how to get the GPS data natively on the N900 and how to activate and deactivate GPS programmatically, etc.

    Davy

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