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purrcatian | # 121 | 2012-03-21, 05:05 | Report

I didn't want to beleive that Maemo/MeeGo was dead, but Nokia posted this on their public Bug Tracker a few days ago:

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Harmattan Bugzilla Closed for New Bugs

At this point of the Nokia N9 product lifecycle, we have already defined the feature set and major bugfixes in the planned next software release. Therefore, we are unable to accept any new bug reports in Bugzilla.

We will continue to develop critical bug fixes related to security, performance and reliability of the device. If you have unreported issues that fall into these categories, please do contact us through the Nokia Developer discussion forum.

SamGan | # 122 | 2012-03-21, 05:51 | Report

Originally Posted by purrcatian View Post

I didn't want to beleive that Maemo/MeeGo was dead, but Nokia posted this on their public Bug Tracker a few days ago:

So? It just means that the feature set for PR1.3 has been defined (fixed) and so they are not accepting any more bug reports for this coming version.

Of course if you want to believe MeeGo is dead feel free to use your own interpretation.

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balisingh | # 123 | 2012-03-21, 05:51 | Report

its crazy to read this post. Nokia is a big company. there is room for meego/symbian/wp each in a certain markets but not in all. I am 100 percent certain that wp and nokia are here to stay in the US. part of the reason I believe that is because Nokia doesn't have a choice. WP is the only thing that is polished enough that can sell in the US. also wp has the ease that non techies need, and together they have the muscle to come up with good customer support quickly and they have shown that in just one year. compared with iphone/android/wp7 an american consumer is NEVER going to be happy with an N9. because its not a finished product. n9 has many bugs. its for tech savvy people. people who want an N9 all ready have it.
Also nokia can't go with android because that would be a waste of a huge investment in navteq. there will be no room for Nokia solutions on an ANdroid. at least because MS was desperate they worked with nokia.

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gerbick | # 124 | 2012-03-21, 06:27 | Report

Originally Posted by SamGan View Post

So? It just means that the feature set for PR1.3 has been defined (fixed) and so they are not accepting any more bug reports for this coming version.

Of course if you want to believe MeeGo is dead feel free to use your own interpretation.

So... not being able to post fixes to existing code means it's alive?

Sorry man. That's the definition of dead. No matter what's found, they won't fix it. They've already scoped it out, and if your bug isn't in the mix, you're SOL.

That's what they did to Win2k.

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SamGan | # 125 | 2012-03-21, 06:37 | Report

Originally Posted by balisingh View Post

its crazy to read this post. Nokia is a big company. there is room for meego/symbian/wp each in a certain markets but not in all. I am 100 percent certain that wp and nokia are here to stay in the US. part of the reason I believe that is because Nokia doesn't have a choice. WP is the only thing that is polished enough that can sell in the US. also wp has the ease that non techies need, and together they have the muscle to come up with good customer support quickly and they have shown that in just one year. compared with iphone/android/wp7 an american consumer is NEVER going to be happy with an N9. because its not a finished product. n9 has many bugs. its for tech savvy people. people who want an N9 all ready have it.
Also nokia can't go with android because that would be a waste of a huge investment in navteq. there will be no room for Nokia solutions on an ANdroid. at least because MS was desperate they worked with nokia.

WP7 was launched in U.S. for more then 1 year before Nokia entered this platform. Yet it only managed less than 2% penetration. As for Nokia, its brand name in the U.S. is junk. It is associated with cheap flip phones that grandmas use. So where does your confidence that WP and Nokia will succeed in U.S. comes from? This is a marriage between a rejected os and a junk brand name.

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SamGan | # 126 | 2012-03-21, 06:41 | Report

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post

So... not being able to post fixes to existing code means it's alive?

Sorry man. That's the definition of dead. No matter what's found, they won't fix it. They've already scoped it out, and if your bug isn't in the mix, you're SOL.

That's what they did to Win2k.

It doesn't mean it is dead either. For all we know it could be just temporary until PR1.3 is released after which they may start accepting bug reports for PR1.4.

Even if worse comes the worse and upgrades stop at PR1.3 it doesn't mean MeeGo will die immediately. It will live as long as there is an active community to produce apps. Look at the N900. Is it dead yet?

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danramos | # 127 | 2012-03-21, 06:55 | Report

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post

So... not being able to post fixes to existing code means it's alive?

Sorry man. That's the definition of dead. No matter what's found, they won't fix it. They've already scoped it out, and if your bug isn't in the mix, you're SOL.

That's what they did to Win2k.

Doesn't this also reek of Maemo's history as well? FIXED IN FREMANTLE, N8x0 OWNERS! FIXED IN FREMANTLE! Go buy a new device for bug fixes! :P

Only, in this case, they're hoping you'll probably jump into a whole new OS. Nokia cares and stuff. :P heheh

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misterc | # 128 | 2012-03-21, 15:04 | Report

after PR1.3 for OS2011, they could also start working on OS2013
not been Maemo user long enough (thus, before N900) to gauge in how far before the MeeGo / Harmattan release, which obviously meant a fundamental break from Maemo / Fremantle each release was the base for the following...

i think nearly each new version could be installed as a HE (Hacker Edition) on the previous device, so there must have been some compatibility which seems to be missing in Harmattan for N900

balisingh | # 129 | 2012-03-21, 15:26 | Report

Originally Posted by SamGan View Post

WP7 was launched in U.S. for more then 1 year before Nokia entered this platform. Yet it only managed less than 2% penetration. As for Nokia, its brand name in the U.S. is junk. It is associated with cheap flip phones that grandmas use. So where does your confidence that WP and Nokia will succeed in U.S. comes from? This is a marriage between a rejected os and a junk brand name.

its wp 7.5 and nokia hw that will make it buy able.
I will officially consider it launched when at&t puts a nokia wp7 phone in their stores on april something because this is how 99% of consumers in the US buy their phones. the lumia 900, if that doesn't sell, we'll see. actually if that doesn't sell I still think nokia will keep going with wp7, as a matter of fact, if nothing sells they will still go with wp7. if they can't sell with wp7 in US, they not going to be able to sell with ANYTHING else. my point.
they need the att trolls on their side. but I know they know that now,(from press releases)
T-Mobile is the 3rd carrier they have had the low end 710 for sale in their stores but only since jan '12, that's 3 months. plus T-Mobile is the tech savvy peoples company, they let you and encourage you to bring your own phone with cheaper plans.

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shmerl | # 130 | 2012-03-21, 17:04 | Report

Well, who cares about WP phones?

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