Speaking of web browsers I'm still using the one that came with the N810, you said Opera and microB are great, are they better than the default, should I install them?
The default browser for the OS2007 is Opera and the default one for the OS2008 is MicroB. You can install MicroB in OS2007 but you can't install Opera in OS2008.
Ipod Touch/iPhone GUI is gorgeous , but the screen size is smaller that the one you can find in an Internet Tablet and the browser does not support Flash player.
MicroB renders websites as a desktop PC browser but it would be nice if you can change the user-agent of it to access some sites optimized for Safari Mobile
ipod touch is a nice toy, but i dont see how you can compare it to an internet tablet. yes, its smaller, and looks better, but the actual usability stops there, not to mention that you have people working against you when trying to make stuff for it compared to actual support
After playing with my friend's Touch, I have to agree there. The iPod touch is exactly what its name implies: an iPod that happens to have a web browser and touchscreen. The iPod does music and (its limited range of) video formats very well. Safari/WebKit is good browser/rendering engine. All of it is wrapped in a slick interface. But it's obvious Apple wants you to use just that, and not try to expand its capabilities (the complete absence of a memory card slot is the first clue). Maybe after they release their iPhone/touch SDK things will be different, I don't know. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to add a memory card slot anytime soon, though.
In my mind, the Nseries tablets are more of a Swiss Army knife: there are some things it does very well, and there are some things it does that are just downright slick too. There are other things that maybe other devices do better, but the tablets can do them within limits (video, for example). The tablets are not as slick everywhere, but can do more overall.
My niece got an iTouch for Christmas and there we were side by side comparing against my Nokia N800 w/ OS2008. This was her first Apple product and my first internet tablet.
Yes, the interface is cool. But, my Nokia worked just fine and the new OS is much more finger friendly. I guess I'm one of the few that doesn't mind the stylus. I love how thin the iTouch is, but the open source community is the real plus for the Nokia. When we were comparing I got a Skype call from friends in the UK. Hopefully the camera will be integrated at some point. I do like the speakers.
All Christmas I had holiday tunes playing on my Rhapsody account while around the house. (Are your trousers playing "Jingle Bells" or are you just happy to see me?" <g>)
I own both a 16GB iPod Touch and a N800. They are quite different beasts, despite the perceived similarity. The iPod, despite its "apps", is essentially a single purpose entertainment device, and I wouldn't treat it as the computer that I treat my N800 as.
If I was to take either device on the road as a replacement for a laptop, I wouldn't think twice about ditching the iPod in favour of the N800. In fact, despite the fact that I have been a mobile device user since the 1990s (I even own the original Palm Pilot!), it wasn't until the N800 that I crossed the Rubicon and trusted a mobile device to a point that I left my laptop behind on a week-long trip. That was a leap of faith, and the N800 proved itself on that trip. I have a spare battery, bunches of SD cards of various sizes, and for anything major I had instant access to all my data via the internet (ssh or openvpn).
I recently organized a massive, annual international conference (http://foss.in/2007), and I can count the number of times that I actually used my laptop during those 5 days on my fingertips. Most of the time, all communication and organization happened via the N800. It just worked.
You have to understand that much of the Apple appeal is glitz related. For example, the famed "spread finger" action to enlarge a picture - you may not realise it, but you dont have to do that - you can just double tap the picture. But yes, it looks more dramatic to do it with two fingers (certainly when SteveJ does it on TV)
The difference between the iPod Touch and the N800 is best summed up this way:
Also, hasn't anyone looked into make a web browser/app that acts similarly to the iPod Touch so we can make use of many of the iPod Touch web apps? I'm extremely jealous of the Google implementation. They made an amazing iPod Touch web interface for things like Google Reader, Mail, Calendar and nearly all their other online apps and I wish I could use it. Ironically because the site detects the N810 as being a desktop browser I get the full version and can't access the iPod specific version.
guess you forgot about no flash support smaller screen bad wifi range on-the- apple . my n800 reaches a good 75 yards farther than touch on wifi. no speaker on apple its smaller but maybe too small for me . dont get me wrong i cant wait for open sdk on the touch for all the cool appps but hate the lack of flash for no obvious reason
guess you forgot about no flash support smaller screen bad wifi range on-the- apple . my n800 reaches a good 75 yards farther than touch on wifi. no speaker on apple its smaller but maybe too small for me . dont get me wrong i cant wait for open sdk on the touch for all the cool appps but hate the lack of flash for no obvious reason
did anyone diesect a itouch and an n800 and see if they use the same kind of wifi chip?
