Here's the thing -- everyone can help by reporting a post/thread using the "Report This" link at the upper right of a post. Here are the official rules, found in the Talk FAQ link at the right side bar: http://talk.maemo.org/faq.php?faq=vb...q_tmorulestext. The rules were created based on the comments/suggestions of the community (see: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56702), so basically, any post that violates the rules can be reported.

When you report a thread or a member's post, an email is sent to the admin and moderators for that forum. FYI, I do see and go through all of them (and I get several everyday) starting when I wake up in the morning and all throughout the day.

Majority of the reports I get are members reporting SPAM, members reporting other members due to insults, trolling, flaming, foul language, etc. I immediately delete SPAM if other SPAM moderators haven't done so, revise, delete, merge posts when needed, as well as give infractions which lead to banning members.

This list of Modeators and Super Administrators can be found here: http://talk.maemo.org/showgroups.php. I admit that a lot are not that active anymore, so maybe we need a new round of Moderator nominations/volunteers.

There is also a special group who have access to delete SPAM. The group is quite active and you can rarely see spam posts here in forums, compared to the 4Q of 2011. You can find the volunteers on this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78150

No one reads all threads and replies here in TMO. Again, if you see something amiss, report the post, and I or other active moderators will do something about it. FYI, I seldom see reports of duplicate threads. If you see threads that needs to be merged, please report them.

Thanks for starting this thread.

Any discussion on etiquette within a forum will draw ire because people usually do not look in the mirror before posting - they react, live in the moment and walk away with a sense of doing the right thing, regardless if it's right or wrong in most cases.

I've belonged to some absolute huge forums in my day and this place tolerates a wider range of folks than most other forums. The moderators are the good mix of vocal, visible, invisible and allow us to rant, rave, argue, come to agreements and perhaps agree to disagree moreso than most any other forum I've seen.

Some of the banter I've seen here, I would have banned you (temp or permanent) from Flashkit or Graphics.com. Instead, it's allowed, some understandings come from it once cooler heads prevail and things are directed back into adult conversation again.

Some folks hide behind anonymity and love to say things that they wouldn't say aloud if they had attached their full name (first/last name) and their address to it. That level of accountability rarely exists in a forum; shouldn't have to. But as it stands... when a random comment comes out of nowhere and screams at a person for having an alternative way of thinking/living than they, I've seen sparks fly.

I've had a ton of people come at me because I'm all over the place in regards to my mobile device of choice - I'm paid for that, btw. But in order for me to be fair, I have to test (or endure) most of the choices out there and I try to remain even handed in my approach.

You can't expect that from everybody. Some folks have purchased only Nokia their entire lives. That's not wrong, that's their decision. Some folks don't use the phone as a phone - even I balk at that, but hey... that's their decision as well. But to come off and say that they must have a disease or disorder because they've done one or the other that differs from me seems initially intolerant.

But it's really ignorance and egocentric nature that we're bearing witness to. Guide it, call it out and say that it's wrong and they the person is capable of better, more adult conversation(s). And don't join the flame match - not unless you want to and you know that the other people involved know your stance(s).

I'm one of the few volunteer spam moderators. I've had people that have come out and stated inasmuch that they did not like me still PM me and tell me that a thread looked like spam.

It's apparent that we all like it here. We just don't always have the way of showing/sharing that information first. We just go for what we like in regards to our life and gadget choices and defend that to the death sometimes.

We're geeks... that's what we do. But we can be more civil sometimes.

I'm done. Sorry for the long post. Congrats to Dousan for starting this thread.

Linux is not just politics or some abstract theoretical preference. It's also the time on the standby screen that I manged to get on the N900, it's sound on both internal and external speakers, it's a multitude of great desktop applications that I find more useful than their mobile counterparts.
I like certain features on my phone, and no phone has them all. Openness of linux gives the possibility for me to make some of the features I want available on my phone. It allows me to use the PR1.1 font on PR1.2 and not let nokia decide what is the best font size for me. It also allows me to code an app for my phone in my choice of programming language between 6 or more languages. Apple users defence that they have siri makes little sense to me but that does not make every siri user a fanboy. If they say that it's better not to be able to send files via bluetooth I'll consider it fanboyish, but if they say they feel more secure that not every app has access to all other app data on the phone I'll consider that a most valid point. In fact I would be a bit scared to install untrusted apps from the store on the N9 if it was the mass market device it was intended to be.

My preference is no more valid than another persons in any given field?

Are you high?

why is everything grey and orange ?




{had to}

High? No, it must be an all-time low what he is on...

I can't believe the progress of this thread. Any prejudice one might have towards newbee's and non or less tech-savvy posters could be seen as confirmed.

And all the while we still mix up different topics, that is: newbee's and what we can expect from them and vice versa, as well as the multiple forms of fanboyism and what not.

I don't think you get it actually. What you are talking about is the degree of knowledge/research/experience behind your preference. An average fanboy may not have coherent and well funded reasons for his preferences, but that does not make his preferences less worth for him than your preferences for you. A preference is a preference, it doesn't matter if it is founded on science or pure emotion or something entirely different.

I give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe you are not a fanboy, but you are elitist. Elitists are every bit as hostile in all their eloquence as the rudest and most outspoken fanboy, they are just two versions of the same kind. Sort of like a pickpocket and a white collar thug, they are both criminals.

So, if I understand you correctly, the only way to not be accused of being a fanboy or elitist, is to not have any preference? I think you're right, and that's why, at the bakery this morning, I started yelling "Fanboy" and "Elitist" to the woman who ordered one brown whole-meal bread and refused the croissant, claiming the butter in it would make her fat...

a good topic here and several interesting opinions, but the mentioned facts are starting to be fulfilled even in the thread that is dedicated to solve them. sad :/

Real fanboyism to me is borderline fanatism, you could call it the hooligans of the mobile phones. As someone stated earlier in this thread they will defend it till death. It has become part of them, the thing they believe in. Their feelings and what the device stands for has meltet together.
So whenever someone talks negative about what they like or says that another OS is better, you, in their heads, talks bad about their person and it is understandable people will defend themself when they feel attacked, but that's the problem no one is attacking them personally and the fanboy can't see that and no matter what valid arguments you bring up the'll still feel attacked and protect their device (themself).
This is a very black and white point of view I state here, I know that and that's not how it's really like, it's more greyed out and not that esy to distingouish or label somebody a tru fanboy.
I used fanboyism in my first post as I see some people here on TMO fitting that label in some degree, on some level more or less.
There's more to it than that, you got personalities, upbringing, maturity and so forth.
I think the main problem is immature behaver and lack of lufe experience that'll show you won't get anywhere in life with an agressive behavior. You'll push people away and alienate yourself and won't broaden your knowledge/horizon.
The diversity if opinions is what makes the world move on, but fanboyism/fanatism is what makes people fight.
Disagreements is part of life, but as long as you respect the other person you wont demean the other person.

I feel some tension building up in this thread, remember an opinion is not a law and therefore opinions are equal no matter the deliver.

Regards Dousan...