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Originally Posted by andreas.k View Post
why is everything grey and orange ?




{had to}
Because that is the standard TMO color theme.

To right, those goddamned gluten fat free sympathisers.

Perhaps the real problem is that the majority of people here HATE noobs. Cannot stand them. They are the scum of the low. They should be forced to wear yellow stars and housed in intellectual ghettos. They demand sh**, they refuse to learn, they do not understand the most rudimentary of instructions and they never say thanks. Ban them. Ban them all. Ban them from the internet and cut off their thumbs so they cannot breed.

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Newbies on the other hand. I love newbies (and boobies, however that is a whole different discussion for a whole different forum). We all love them. They are these people who do not understand a particular thing yet they are trying their damned hardest to figure it out. They post their cheesey scripts and say 'hay guys, how come my script does not work?'. We fall on them like hungry seagulls, devouring their problematic foodstuffs. We point them to the correct resources and usually write the script for them. Seriously, you pose a good noodle scratcher and your un-completed solution, people will take huge amounts of their personal time to help you.

These guys represent they way we were once. Young, free and optimistic un-constrained by the weighty mental burden of regex or knowledge that a perfectly good, cumbersome solution could be 'improved' upon with an AWK one liner. These people allow us the joy of learning the low hanging fruits again; vicariously through them.

It is like when I discovered my friend of some 20 years had not watched the films predator, robocop and starship troopers. I almost wept as I realised I could show him these films and he could enjoy them to their fullest extent as an adult in a way I could not as I had first seen them as a child. Through him I could relive 'this **** will make you a goddamned sexual tyranasaur"!

So yes, there is intolerance on this forum. Intolerance for recalcitrant noobery. Intolerance for the dumbass arsecandle who wants nothing more than to give away his freedom for an emasculated XMPP rip off just because his fellow peanuts breath buddies have it. Intolerance for the guys who are the poler-opposite of our way of thinking.

You WILL learn!
You WILL become self suffient!
You WILL crave knowledge and understanding!
You WILL push your own abilities to the limit!

or GTFO and RTFM.
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@vi_ very good point in your post, nicely put with good humor.

Would wish you would loose the GTFO and such fraising as i think it undermines and detach you from your statements.

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I fully agree with you their vi_ (and with many other comments in this thread too). Only this morning there was a new user asking for the location to the n900's flashing guide and you can guess what happened in that thread. This new user was not asking/demanding for others to do his work for him but was wanting the guide so he could learn for himself and yet only one poster actually gave him the link to the wiki.

Maybe this new user "situation" could be eased by making the newbie board more prominent in TMO instead of tucked away at the bottom of talk in the old section? Many forums even place a post restriction for users before being allowed to post in the general boards and although whilst I do not fully agree with this, I do see the benefit of giving the new users that garden of freedom to ask frequently asked questions without facing the tigers.
 

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@MINKIN2: ORLY? Do a google search for "n900 flash" and check which is the first link in the result (at least here, BB is watching me after all)

@vi_: LOL. Once you promised me booze and hookers. Well, I give up on them if you make posts like that once or twice a week.
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Originally Posted by qwazix View Post
[...] if [the N9] was the mass market device it was intended to be.
totally agree with your post (the [...] part) but have to disagree with your final statement.
N9 & MeeGo / Harmattan always was a research project
that the N9 eventually (as the 1st Maemo device) has a noticeable commercial success is coincidental
which doesn't mean the devices should not be sold, of course
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Originally Posted by freemangordon View Post
@MINKIN2: ORLY? Do a google search for "n900 flash" and check which is the first link in the result (at least here, BB is watching me after all).
I know, it does seem obvious for those of us in the know,

However there is still the generation of Web2.0 users who still do not understand the accepted internet etiquette outside of their Facebook page and that's why I also made the point of making the newbie board more visible. It should not be a free pass for lunacy but a place for them to learn the ways of our boards without being lynched on in their very first post

Oh, and please do not mistake me for claiming that all newbies have the mentality of the fb mothers tea party group I understand that we all have varying degrees of experience.
 

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Originally Posted by Estel View Post
when we're talking about moderators - time to kill this thread?
Your post proves why the opening post makes this a worthwhile thread and you should allow freedom of speech here instead of trying to control by your comments.

Well said Reggie and thanks for once again allowing freedom of speech and welcoming this thread.
 
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Originally Posted by specc View Post
I don't think you get it actually. What you are talking about is the degree of knowledge/research/experience behind your preference. An average fanboy may not have coherent and well funded reasons for his preferences, but that does not make his preferences less worth for him than your preferences for you. A preference is a preference, it doesn't matter if it is founded on science or pure emotion or something entirely different.

I give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe you are not a fanboy, but you are elitist. Elitists are every bit as hostile in all their eloquence as the rudest and most outspoken fanboy, they are just two versions of the same kind. Sort of like a pickpocket and a white collar thug, they are both criminals.
Sorry but I didn't try to convince you to prefer linux in your phone. I was just explaining why I do. As I am a lot into smartphones everyone in friends and family circles has been asking for advice as to what phone he should get. Since this season last year I have recommended 1 Galaxy S, 1 Nokia 701, 1 Galaxy Ace, 1 N900, 1 Galaxy s3, 1 zte blade, 1 iphone, 1 E7. Of course I stick with maemo because that is what I like. I don't expect anybody else to like it and I won't get offended if somebody tells me my N900 is slow (which it is). I can stand slowness because I reap other benefits.

It's not about experience and knowledge. I want to have the time on the lockscreen more than anything, the other guy wants to post his pictures to facebook right after he takes them. None of us is a fanboy. If he tells me I am an idiot for not wanting to share my pics on facebook then maybe he is.

As stated before the fanboy will take personal offence when somebody finds a fault to his device. By your definition in order not to be a fanboy or elitist I have to accept that the best device for me is not what I chose. That's a bit schizophrenic.

@misterc Put a fullstop after the word device. My point was irrelevant to the intention of Nokia. What I mean is that now we have security through obscurity, and very few people would make the effort to develop a malware for the N9. But should it was more massively sold, and having seen that aegis is only good at limiting our freedoms and not the possible abusing behavior of apps I would be scared that every app I download has access to all data stored in the phone plus (limited) root access.
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Originally Posted by qwazix View Post
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@misterc Put a fullstop after the word device. My point was irrelevant to the intention of Nokia. What I mean is that now we have security through obscurity, and very few people would make the effort to develop a malware for the N9. But should it was more massively sold, and having seen that aegis is only good at limiting our freedoms and not the possible abusing behavior of apps I would be scared that every app I download has access to all data stored in the phone plus (limited) root access.
totally agree
think you just forgot the one aspect of GNU / Linux that makes it... GNU (the freedom to share & improve software)... source code
i don't think we get the source code of the OVI apps, but, well, hopefully NOKIA does some checking on those, right ?!?
and anything else, well... if you don't get the source code... don't even download it
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Originally Posted by Dousan View Post
@vi_ very good point in your post, nicely put with good humor.

Would wish you would loose the GTFO and such fraising as i think it undermines and detach you from your statements.

Regards Dousan...
s/frasing/phrasing/

Please use a spell-checker for similar misspellings as I think it undermines and detaches from your statements.

Sincerely, Dan.
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