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zeebra | # 21 | 2012-05-27, 16:35 | Report

Originally Posted by misiak View Post

Some drivers are intelectual ownership of other companies, so Nokia cannot release them (maybe even they don't have complete sources of all drivers). However, I would vote for our Council (who won the election? Estel?

) to try to contact these companies and ask them if they could release some sources maybe (or tech specs or anything)p if this has not happened yet in the past.

Yes! exactly!

all the hardware in N900 is legacy/non commercial anno 2012.

Originally Posted by misiak View Post

Some drivers are intelectual ownership of other companies, so Nokia cannot release them (maybe even they don't have complete sources of all drivers). However, I would vote for our Council (who won the election? Estel?

) to try to contact these companies and ask them if they could release some sources maybe (or tech specs or anything)p if this has not happened yet in the past.

Just for the record: GRUB supports x86/x86_64 architectures only (i.e. computers which are able to run desktop version of Windows, if a device is not able to run that => it won't run GRUB). It's UBOOT that you want

(this one is for embedded systems and also works on e.g. Nokia N900).

I have Uboot. That doesnt mean that GRUB should not be ported to mobile devices and arm/armel.

How else am I suppose to install proper Linux and dual boot that with Android on a samsung or htc device?

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lucm | # 22 | 2012-05-27, 16:43 | Report

Originally Posted by Dragoss91 View Post

Hope dies last .

It may die last, but still dies.

mikecomputing | # 23 | 2012-05-27, 17:54 | Report

Originally Posted by zeebra View Post

Yes! exactly!

all the hardware in N900 is legacy/non commercial anno 2012.

Probadly yes, because that chip is still selling by Texas and if you take some time to check homepage at TI instead of whine here you see there is a driver that cannot be distribuated and is not open! You have similar issues with Pandaboard, Beagleboard and also RaspberryPi if I remember right.

Same goes for some Intel embedded GFX chips like GMA500. And ofcourse NVidia and ATI.

Do never expect anything to be fully open source that will never ever happen...

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ArchiMark | # 24 | 2012-05-27, 19:31 | Report

Originally Posted by lucm View Post

It may die last, but still dies.

Or like this.....

Originally Posted by

Hope springs eternal in the human breast;
Man never Is, but always To be blest:
The soul, uneasy and confin'd from home,
Rests and expatiates in a life to come.

– Alexander Pope, An Essay on Man

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geneven | # 25 | 2012-05-27, 19:46 | Report

I hope that a message saying "Mods, please kill this thread" is not all that is required to kill a thread in this brave new world. Worthless threads are allowed to persist all the time, no matter how hot sh t a person objecting to them is.

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misiak | # 26 | 2012-05-27, 21:51 | Report

Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post

Do never expect anything to be fully open source that will never ever happen...

As far as I'm concerned, even binary kernel modules containing drivers for e.g. gfx chip (and other stuff that doesn't have open drivers), but built against newer kernel (by the company that manufactures these chips), would be better then nothing, as it would allow usage of newer kerel as base. This thread is quite pointless, but - just out of curiosity - did that or something similar happen in the past (for any device)?

Stskeeps | # 27 | 2012-05-28, 04:42 | Report

Originally Posted by misiak View Post

As far as I'm concerned, even binary kernel modules containing drivers for e.g. gfx chip (and other stuff that doesn't have open drivers), but built against newer kernel (by the company that manufactures these chips), would be better then nothing, as it would allow usage of newer kerel as base. This thread is quite pointless, but - just out of curiosity - did that or something similar happen in the past (for any device)?

There are no closed source kernel drivers in N900, N950, N9.

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Android_808 | # 28 | 2012-05-28, 06:20 | Report

SGX driver source we need is for userland, not kernel.

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freemangordon | # 29 | 2012-05-28, 07:06 | Report

Originally Posted by Android_808 View Post

SGX driver source we need is for userland, not kernel.

He plays it smart

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zeebra | # 30 | 2012-05-28, 15:19 | Report

Originally Posted by misiak View Post

As far as I'm concerned, even binary kernel modules containing drivers for e.g. gfx chip (and other stuff that doesn't have open drivers), but built against newer kernel (by the company that manufactures these chips), would be better then nothing, as it would allow usage of newer kerel as base. This thread is quite pointless, but - just out of curiosity - did that or something similar happen in the past (for any device)?

Even this would be somewhat acceptable.
Problem ofcourse is that everything is overly interdependent in Maemo, and the most interdependent parts are secret.

What I would like is to be able to build very customer kernels myself, from newer base. For example 2.38 kernel has a big important performance change.

The "Powerkernel" is still restricted to being the same version kernel as the one shipped, right?

I mean, I will not cry if you say that it's me that is too stupid to build my own kernel, but current status sure does not make it easier.

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