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Dunno, neither of these bugs show up over here, and I use my device a lot. Sounds like you messed something up.
Also: you should consider investing your free time in more constructive activities.
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If you are trying to replace a Windows Mobile device or Palm (PDA) with this Nokia offering, please look elsewhere. You will NOT get the same sort of near-seamless operation out of the box with the Nokia tablets.
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I don't have the problems you speak of browsing on my N800... but it took 10 months for the right combination of user tweaks and OS for that to be said.
I also use a WinMo device running 2003 in my work vehicle and the browser just plain sucks... Not to mention I don't dare disconnect it from the charger for any length of time or risk loosing everything stored in RAM... Where it shines over the N800 though is the third party apps. TomTom navigator, my weather app, and assorted Today screen widgets run continuously on it. However, that took almost 3 years to sort out.
Now that I have Wayfinder up on OS2008 and can now also connect through my phone, I use the N800 exclusively during my personal time. I can throw the thing in my jacket pocket on Friday night and not have to worry about charging again until Sunday evening. I can also carry 16 gigs of USB accessible mass storage on the dang thing.
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1) Microb browser failure to connect. Other people have had the same issue, and all of us have tried the wlan idle time fixes to no avail for some. Happens in the middle of browsing for short periods of time (e.g. longer than three clicks on links, browsing between pages or moving forward.) Forces me to close and restart Microb.
2) SD cards tend to unmount, or at least do not show up at all on the device on occasion. I had it happen to me several times while playing back audio files from the card(s) and also when I didn't access them at all during a session. This problem rears it head whether or not I move around with the device or whether or not it's plugged into power.
I am new to the device, and have much experience in the tech sector. I do not have much experience in administering Linux from the command line. My background is mostly in Windows products or FreeBSD/Linux firewall/routers. So I represent most of the people who consider themselves to be "geeks" or "techs." I also represent the newbs, as my own experience doesn't allow for modifying Linux outside of a GUI.
If you are trying to replace a Windows Mobile device or Palm (PDA) with this Nokia offering, please look elsewhere. You will NOT get the same sort of near-seamless operation out of the box with the Nokia tablets. I am saying this with many years of Windows CE, Pocket PC, and Windows Mobile experience that I grew to love. The only reasons I am a convert are as follows:
1) Windows Mobile has a far inferior browser experience.
2) Windows Mobile has fewer browser plugins/web compatibility.
3) Windows Mobile has a much smaller, inferior screen.
Besides the screen, there are only the Web advantages on the Nokia over WM. And those are negated by failures from the Microb browser to browse for long periods of time or take breaks and continue browsing. And as for the screen, the Nokia does NOT switch between landscape and portrait like WM2003SE forward. This is a HUGE drawback I wasn't aware of when I chose the Nokia N800.
Furthermore, audio playback (while smooth and tonally rich enough) does not achieve the same kind of volume output that WM devices have provided to me since early 2000, nor the kind of solid reliability of access for removable memory cards. My disappointment has increased over time as I carry the device everywhere with me and expect it to work all the time, as I hardly ever multitask. Either I am listening to MP3's, or I am surfing, or I am using a mapping application.
Now to mapping. The built-in app included in IT2008 OS would be nice, if it worked at all. It does not load at all when executed. Maemo Mapper is well and good, but you need to download the maps which can be confusing in comparison to Streets & Trips for creating map areas for mobile use. Anyone used to mapping software that you select an area for copying to your device (almost all of mobile mapping programs) will likely wonder about this detail, and ask the same question over and over for each new user that buys the device. Has anyone seen the posts yet about this? Of course you have. The WM devices have an edge here, but of course those solutions are pay-to-play, so IT2008 is cheaper in the end. But.... Streets & Trips only costs about $20 a copy, and works on your desktop or laptop as well, giving the software extra functionality. So in effect, you are only paying $10 for the Pocket Streets portion if you find value in the desktop software, which you certainly will. Add to the fact your time is money (unless you are a slacker or have no family to take care of) and the WM devices merit much more attention since they are more reliable and perform when and where you want, without having to study internet forums beforehand.
This is a huge rant, and I expect retorts from the choir. But it needs to be said. If someone technically adept, but new to the device, cannot fix what's wrong with it without studying up and getting schooled on the device's inner workings, then there's got to be a problem. It's as if Nokia tried to make it easy to use, but failed on so many different levels. Certain things are simple and even easier to use than a WM device. Others are abysmally granular beyond reason or just plain unreliable.
The device has crashed on me more times in three weeks than all the time I ran WM or WinCE devices. That's unacceptable. The N800 is marketed as an Internet Tablet, but I have so much trouble using the browser reliably that I loathe when I HAVE TO use it. I do admit that when at a hockey game, the arena's public WiFi was streaming youtube between periods for my son and I to watch automotive videos and some middle eastern guy drifting a bicycle. And sometimes the wireless connection will hold out long enough to read my webmail accounts. Once in a while I can use the media playback on the N800 to listen to some songs without having to reboot the device or re-insert the formerly fine SD cards.
Keep in mind I still WANT the device to work. I still WANT to keep it and improve its reliability. I'm hoping to work out the issues and if nothing else, the N800 will help me to learn more about Linux and command-line expressions. But the average user will not want to keep it, they will return their N800 and go buy a smartphone or iPhone and get locked into a contract or they will buy one of the few remaining PDAs on the market. Maybe they will pony up for a full UMPC. I'll more than likely do all of the above, because that's the way I am about technology. I just have to get my hands dirty in it. I'd just rather have a more proven device to rely on day-to-day and the N800 will live in a drawer until I get bored with it and sell. I feel used by Nokia, for giving me hope that paying $250 will bring me a replacement for what I used to depend on. Do you think I'll buy another ITOS device, without significant development to improve on reliability? Forget it. You shouldn't need to learn ANYTHING to use the device day-to-day the way it was designed. And I shouldn't need to go out and spend $300 to buy a new WM device to replace the sad remnants of a dream.
Bah! Forget about it. I can't convice you if you already set your heart on a new N8x0 device. Go ahead, buy one and suffer for a while! It will be fun. You'll have a grand time trying to band-aid the dream to create a fantasy. You'll eventually wake up and understand the soapbox antics here in this very post. I double-dog-dare you to try! You may succeed in your endevor, but the word that comes to mind here is "demanding:" such as a trophy-wife that saps the blood out of your wallet while secretly having an affair on the side with your gardener. Except with your N800 you don't get a sweet babe to fornicate with. And it's your intellect that will be sapped as you dedicate more mental workspace to problems and solutions for the N800. The N800 is certainly a dirty "hoar" in this aspect.
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