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sifo | # 2781 | 2012-07-02, 03:25 | Report

@seanmcken
it is
apt-get install chromium-browser

i tried chromium it brings me a totally different pacakge with strange sounds

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seanmcken | # 2782 | 2012-07-02, 03:46 | Report

thank u very much friends

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seanmcken | # 2783 | 2012-07-02, 03:51 | Report

chromium-browser command works better for opening the browser i need help again can u plz tell me how to add this in queen beecon to make it as shortcut on screen?

Estel | # 2784 | 2012-07-02, 04:46 | Report

Ask in queen beecon widget thread?

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sulu | # 2785 | 2012-07-09, 19:34 | Report

As some of you might know, the next Debian release "Wheezy" went into Freeze on june 30th, which means that the developers will concentrate on bug fixing now instead of adding new program versions.
This in turn means that dependencies won't change that much anymore, making custom package builds less prone to breaking by simply becoming outdated.

As suggested earlier I finally took that chance to create an Easy Debian image completely based on Wheezy, which Estel and qole generously agreed to host [1] (Thanks for that!).
It is a very minimal image with little more than only a working LXDE desktop. There is no web browser installed, no office suite or whatever one might expect to find in an end-user's image.

Since Wheezy, although in Freeze now, is still Testing, this image is intended for people who know how to handle Testing. And I trust that some of these users will eventually put together an image for brave end users with all the appropriate software.
For instance, Iceweasel 10esr can be installed from the repository. (Chromium currently isn't available in Wheezy armel due to a bug [2].)
I intend to create a similar image when Wheezy is released, so this image is is sort of a release candidate to find out what can be improved. Any tips are welcome!

Some facts about that image:
md5sum (unlzma'd): 6aa2bd305a99b9d9f9e21b092aa5659e
size: 2GB
file system: ext2
default keymap: us (with some minor changes; details follow)
bugs: So far I've only encountered one bug. sudo doesn't set the $PATH variable correctly. All the sbin pathes are missing. You have to become root by calling sudo su to get the sbin pathes correctly. Atm I have no idea what causes this, nor how to fix it since I don't use sudo on my regular computers. If anybody knows how to fix this, please let us know!
others:
a) Due to Maemo's ancient pulseaudio version I had to patch the pulseaudio-related packages in the image. In contrast to the packages in Squeeze this time it's the real Wheezy pulseaudio version 2.0 with only the protocol version patched down to 15 as suggested by thomasjfox [3] (Thanks a lot for that!). The packages currently installed in the image are:

Code:

libpulse0-armel
pulseaudio
pulseaudio-module-x11
pulseaudio-utils

You'll find all the patched packages, including the ones currently not installed, created from pulseaudio here: [4]
Since the packages had to be patched this means that they MUST NOT be replaced with regular Wheezy packages if you want to have sound in Easy Debian. Therefore I set them on "hold" so they will not be automatically upgraded by newer versions. If for some reason you need newer packages than the ones that are currently in the image (because they are required as a dependency) rebuild the packages after patching them yourself or contact me and I'll build new ones (it may take some days until I'm able to provide new ones)!
b) Just like in the Squeeze image I had to replace the xkb folder after the dist-upgrade, so the xkd-data package shouldn't be upgraded too or you'll have to copy it over from Maemo again. When I copied the folder I forgot that I altered my keyboard definition slightly. Users with US layout will notice that "£" and "€" will produce "<" and ">" instead, Shift+Alt+"." will produce "|" and Shift+Alt+Space will produce Escape. If you want an unmodified us keymap copy /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51 from Maemo to the Wheezy image!

[1] image@Estel: http://lorienart.pl/debian_wheezy0sulu.img.lzma @qole: http://qole.org/files/debian_wheezy0sulu.img.lzma
[2] Chromium armel bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=674728
[3] pulseaudio patch by thomasjfox: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=34
[4] patched pulseaudiopackages@Estel: http://lorienart.pl/pulseaudio_patch...reeze.tar.lzma

Last edited by sulu; 2012-07-10 at 08:45. Reason: added qole's image link; replaced packages link

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Estel | # 2786 | 2012-07-09, 23:15 | Report

As for [4] - here it is:
http://lorienart.pl/pulseaudio_patch...reeze.tar.lzma

/Estel

Last edited by Estel; 2012-07-09 at 23:31.

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lonk | # 2787 | 2012-07-21, 18:41 | Report

I've been using this raw wheezy image and testing it has been working REALLY well for me! thanks for the work put in!

the issue I've had for a long time (on all previous images) with drawing on gimp via debbie has been fixed

I no longer have to go through LXDE to use drawing programs

and the best thing is MyPaint v1.0 also works!

one problem: I can get pressure sensitivity, but the screen behaves as if the (left click) press is always on hold, so the strokes end up being continuous..

here is what I mean:

^^ I made four individual wriggly brush strokes from left to right, but they all connect together

This is my temporary fix:

-change the stroke setting in preferences from

to a regular mouse setting and disable pressure sensitivity

is there something I can do to fix this "hold" issue? I also tried changing the settings on GIMP to get pressure sensitivity

and it works but then I can't click anything outside the canvas (e.g, I can't click save or close on the menu boxes, making gimp unuseable) (because again, I suspect it behaves as though left click is on hold)

edit: also this issue occurs in both debbie (chroot) and LXDE.

but in debbie both programs detect the input as "TSC2005 touchscreen" and in LXDE it detects two inputs, "Virtual core XTEST pointer" and "Xephyr virtual mouse"

Last edited by lonk; 2012-07-21 at 18:43.

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Herbb | # 2788 | 2012-07-27, 14:22 | Report

I've run quassel, but keyboard doesn't work (can't focus on window?).
It seems that input still works on terminal instead of quassel window (I run it directly via chroot).

Anyway what's strange - when I ran quassel from lxde it ran only quassel-client...

Any ideas ? kbd fixes posted on wiki didn't helped me

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Estel | # 2789 | 2012-07-28, 02:43 | Report

Originally Posted by sulu View Post

As some of you might know, the next Debian release "Wheezy" went into Freeze on june 30th, which means that the developers will concentrate on bug fixing now instead of adding new program versions.
This in turn means that dependencies won't change that much anymore, making custom package builds less prone to breaking by simply becoming outdated.

As suggested earlier I finally took that chance to create an Easy Debian image completely based on Wheezy, which Estel and qole generously agreed to host [1] (Thanks for that!).
It is a very minimal image with little more than only a working LXDE desktop. There is no web browser installed, no office suite or whatever one might expect to find in an end-user's image.

Since Wheezy, although in Freeze now, is still Testing, this image is intended for people who know how to handle Testing. And I trust that some of these users will eventually put together an image for brave end users with all the appropriate software.
For instance, Iceweasel 10esr can be installed from the repository. (Chromium currently isn't available in Wheezy armel due to a bug [2].)
I intend to create a similar image when Wheezy is released, so this image is is sort of a release candidate to find out what can be improved. Any tips are welcome!

Some facts about that image:
md5sum (unlzma'd): 6aa2bd305a99b9d9f9e21b092aa5659e
size: 2GB
file system: ext2
default keymap: us (with some minor changes; details follow)
bugs: So far I've only encountered one bug. sudo doesn't set the $PATH variable correctly. All the sbin pathes are missing. You have to become root by calling sudo su to get the sbin pathes correctly. Atm I have no idea what causes this, nor how to fix it since I don't use sudo on my regular computers. If anybody knows how to fix this, please let us know!
others:
a) Due to Maemo's ancient pulseaudio version I had to patch the pulseaudio-related packages in the image. In contrast to the packages in Squeeze this time it's the real Wheezy pulseaudio version 2.0 with only the protocol version patched down to 15 as suggested by thomasjfox [3] (Thanks a lot for that!). The packages currently installed in the image are:

Code:

libpulse0-armel
pulseaudio
pulseaudio-module-x11
pulseaudio-utils

You'll find all the patched packages, including the ones currently not installed, created from pulseaudio here: [4]
Since the packages had to be patched this means that they MUST NOT be replaced with regular Wheezy packages if you want to have sound in Easy Debian. Therefore I set them on "hold" so they will not be automatically upgraded by newer versions. If for some reason you need newer packages than the ones that are currently in the image (because they are required as a dependency) rebuild the packages after patching them yourself or contact me and I'll build new ones (it may take some days until I'm able to provide new ones)!
b) Just like in the Squeeze image I had to replace the xkb folder after the dist-upgrade, so the xkd-data package shouldn't be upgraded too or you'll have to copy it over from Maemo again. When I copied the folder I forgot that I altered my keyboard definition slightly. Users with US layout will notice that "£" and "€" will produce "<" and ">" instead, Shift+Alt+"." will produce "|" and Shift+Alt+Space will produce Escape. If you want an unmodified us keymap copy /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51 from Maemo to the Wheezy image!

[1] image@Estel: http://lorienart.pl/debian_wheezy0sulu.img.lzma @qole: http://qole.org/files/debian_wheezy0sulu.img.lzma
[2] Chromium armel bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=674728
[3] pulseaudio patch by thomasjfox: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=34
[4] patched pulseaudiopackages@Estel: http://lorienart.pl/pulseaudio_patch...reeze.tar.lzma

Hey Sulu,

Could you please write small "tutorial" for upgrading Squeezy image to wheezy, similar to one You did for upgrading *to* Squeezy? I would put it in wiki, then. Of course, I suppose it includes more than just "dist-upgrade" - installation of new, custom pulseaudio, and such things.

I'm personally interested in it - I would like to do upgrade keeping my current image, instead of starting from scratch, with a fresh one. It would not only save me downloading gigabytes of files over slow network access, but also, more importantly, help testing compatibility with existing (and working well in Squeeze) programs. Diary of steps needed for upgrade would also help in debugging any possible issues with images.

Thanks in advance,

/Estel

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magic_doc | # 2790 | 2012-07-28, 09:14 | Report

Originally Posted by Herbb View Post

I've run quassel, but keyboard doesn't work (can't focus on window?).
It seems that input still works on terminal instead of quassel window (I run it directly via chroot).

Anyway what's strange - when I ran quassel from lxde it ran only quassel-client...

Any ideas ? kbd fixes posted on wiki didn't helped me

I had the same problem with some debian apps running natively under maemo.
I have this line in my .xbindkeysrc, and I am using xbindkeys under maemo natively (installed via apt-get):

Code:

###############################################################
# NEW as of Sept 2010:
# Make keyboard active in current window with Fn+Return
# (you need the /home/user/.kbdactive script, of course!)
###############################################################

  "/home/user/.kbdactive"
    m:0x80 + c:36
    Mod5 + KP_Enter

###############################################################

and a /home/user/.kbdactive like this (x11-utils needed to be installed to use xprop):

Code:

#!/bin/sh
ACTIVEWINID=`xprop -root | awk '/NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW/ { print $5; exit }'`
debbie /usr/bin/set-focus $ACTIVEWINID

Works for me with kdepimpi-package natively under maemo and libreoffice ran via debbie.

The only thing could be done more elegant is the set-focus: it must be invoked using debbie because the binary does not work under maemo natively, it drops this error:

Code:

set-focus: relocation error: set-focus: symbol __isoc99_sscanf, version GLIBC_2.7 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference

Does anybody have it compiled against actual maemo to make this work?

CU Michael

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