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Micha is offline Micha
2012-10-16 , 20:30
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#21
Originally Posted by thrush View Post
I plan on getting a Lumia 920 when they are released. Ultimately, I've grown accustomed to WP and its fluidity. But I always wanted to try MeeGo and I felt this was a good month to do it. Who knows, perhaps the N9 will help push my L920 lust back a month or so.
I've also grown accustomed to WP because of it's fluidity.
It simply amazed me from the start I used WP compared to Android and IOS which didn't get me going.

The more the WP8 phone release date nears, the more i'm thinking to myself if I really need to exchange the N9 for the WP8 (L920 in particular).
I'm very curious about what WP8 brings compared to WP7, but the user experience of the N9 just keeps pulling me back.
The swipe gestures, and most of all the LPS customisation will definately be missed, and don't know if I want to live without that.

I don't miss particular apps (learned to live without most of them is a better phrase), but if I go WP8, I know what i've missed app wize.
Also the L920 camera compels.

Will probably try one out in the shop, and be sold I think :S

PS: Heard Jolla will be showing their phone very soon too...
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2012-10-16 , 21:25
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#22
That fluidity is the polish on a turd iyam. In reality, what you will get is an extremely closed OS. Ars had an article about WinRT today about this, and WP8 will be worse if anything.

If you find any value in control over your own device, stay very clear of windows phone. As it is, the N9 is very open OOTB, and they even allow you to flash an even more open kernel, if you want. (Note: the N900 scores far better in openess.)
 
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Maybe its closed, but WP does its basics well. I will agree that N9 is georgeous, but it really doesnt do basics well. Email doesnt update on N9. Its horrible. the lag is horrible too. the virtual keyboard not good either. That is why abandoned N9. Lumia 800 sucks because of lack of multitasking and chat app is horrible. but email, calls, texts, it does them flawlessly. I hope Jolla peops learn from their N9 fiasco.
 

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2012-10-16 , 22:04
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There is a maemo.org app on apps4meego but it doesn't work correctly since PR1.2, maybe there is an update somewhere else
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2012-10-16 , 22:27
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The average consumer doesn't care about openness.

Also, calling the N9 open is laughable.
 
HELLASISGREECE is offline HELLASISGREECE
2012-10-16 , 22:40
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
I hope Jolla peops learn from their N9 fiasco.
I've seen you calling the N9 a "fiasco" in several posts.

Really? The N9 was a fiasco? Says who?
The positive reviews from almost every corner or the world?
The huge impact it made when it was announced?
The air of new and fresh the swipe ui brought?
The absolutely stunning looks (still copied to Nokia Lumias even today)?

If something was a fiasco , it was the wp7.5 Lumia phones.
Fiasco from every aspect.
Rapid loss of value/price, no update to wp8, super locked OS, average impact and average reviews.
The laughable percentage of wp7 sales in general (competing with Bada OS)

What the hell are you comparing? Were you hiding in cave a year ago?
If the N9 was a fiasco , Ellop wouldn't have minded releasing it globally.
But yeah... had it a strong marketing behind it combined with a global release.. the Lumia series would have been "raped". He knew it was a gem that could threaten the wp nokia line.

Meego team knew it as well, that's why they created Jolla.


*I know you like the N900. I like as well.
I even like it more than the N9.
But calling (in numerous of your posts) the N9 a "fiasco" is a sin dude. You're either living in your own alternate universe or just trying to troll.

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Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
Maybe its closed, but WP does its basics well. ... Lumia 800 sucks because of lack of multitasking and chat app is horrible. but email, calls, texts, it does them flawlessly.
Yeah, I think this just kinda sums up the entire industry, doesn't it? The effort to combine the features of a PDA and a cell phone led to the start of the "smart phone" market, and a series of truly amazing tiny devices, each of which could do more than the previous one. But now we've got devices moving towards minimalist user interfaces, towards locked-down app ecosystems, towards a focus on doing just a few things very well. Really, just e-mail, calls, and texts. Other than the ability to play video media, isn't this just another name for a "feature phone"?

The smart phone is dead and gone.
 

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Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE View Post
I've seen you calling the N9 a "fiasco" in several posts.

Really? The N9 was a fiasco? Says who?
The positive reviews from almost every corner or the world?
The huge impact it made when it was announced?
The air of new and fresh the swipe ui brought?
The absolutely stunning looks (still copied to Nokia Lumias even today)?

If something was a fiasco , it was the wp7.5 Lumia phones.
Fiasco from every aspect.
Rapid loss of value/price, no update to wp8, super locked OS, average impact and average reviews.
The laughable percentage of wp7 sales in general (competing with Bada OS)

What the hell are you comparing? Were you hiding in cave a year ago?
If the N9 was a fiasco , Ellop wouldn't have minded releasing it globally.
But yeah... had it a strong marketing behind it combined with a global release.. the Lumia series would have been "raped". He knew it was a gem that could threaten the wp nokia line.

Meego team knew it as well, that's why they created Jolla.


*I know you like the N900. I like as well.
I even like it more than the N9.
But calling (in numerous of your posts) the N9 a "fiasco" is a sin dude. You're either living in your own alternate universe or just trying to troll.

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I love you man, but here is why I think its a fiasco. To come off a device such as N900, and not evolve it, improve it, make it smoother, fix the bugs, the stutters, the email.....come on bro, tells you the incompetence. N9 had since 2008 to be better and we got a beta OS. Pathetic and in my book fiasco.
 

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2012-10-17 , 01:03
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#29
Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE View Post
I've seen you calling the N9 a "fiasco" in several posts.

Really? The N9 was a fiasco? Says who?
The positive reviews from almost every corner or the world?
Bloggers and tech journos are easily impressed by shiny stuff.

Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE View Post
The huge impact it made when it was announced?
See above.

Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE View Post
The air of new and fresh the swipe ui brought?
I would call it novelty. It got boring for me after having to swipe several times to get to my web bookmarks (used to pressing CTRL+B).

Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE View Post
The absolutely stunning looks (still copied to Nokia Lumias even today)?
Meh. Just another rectangle with a screen.

Some reasons to consider the N9 a fiasco:
  • Use of APIs that were later deprecated before the device was released.
  • Lack of real equivelent to fremantle extras repositories due to 'beggar-thy-neighbour' tactics from Intel and the Linux Foundation, which resulted from the break-up of the Nokia-Intel partnership.
  • The worst email client I have ever used on a mobile device.
  • The worst video player I have ever used on a modern mobile device, combined with video playback capabilities surpassed by devices manufactured by the same company costing half the price.
  • A lame web browser that is several steps backwards from what they had previously developed.
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2012-10-17 , 01:14
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I respect your opinions. Thank God the vast majority were impressed by the N9 in many levels.

N9 is not a perfect phone, if it was i wouldn't be typing this from my N900.
...but it's light years far from being called a "fiasco"!

wth! "fiasco" is a crazy way to describe this masterpiece.

N97,E72, N96, X7, L900 (the beta test is over, remember?)
those were some fiascos
 

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