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    [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900

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    Kerio | # 971 | 2012-10-26, 14:23 | Report

    Performance is also a matter of compiler, though - the default toolchain uses gcc4.2, which is fairly ancient compared to cssu-thumb's toolchain which uses gcc4.7-linaro. Granted, using gcc4.7-linaro to compile with the ARM ISA would yield even better results, at a loss of space.

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    Acurus_ | # 972 | 2012-10-26, 21:42 | Report

    Originally Posted by Estel View Post
    Just to make it more clear - after installing syslogd package, and running into this problem, just copy your /var/log/syslog file, upload it somewhere, and post in this thread (as link to upload, *not* whole syslog as quotation!).

    As for dmesg, you don't need to install anything - you just open terminal, write dmesg, and put output here (also, important to do it quite immediately *after* you got hit by the problem).
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    For the records, no such issue here,modest works fine, same for mail notifications.

    /Estel

    //Edit

    freemangordon, how he is supposed to get dmesg output, if, when hit by the problem, he need to reboot device for getting out of it (desktop "freeze")?

    I would say:
    "gain ssh access from other machine before problem, and check if you can still invoke commands via ssh, when desktop is "frozen". If yes, get /var/log/syslog remotely (still via ssh, for example, copy it to microSD card inside N900), and for records, try killall hildon-desktop (to see, if desaktop comes back to life)"

    Of course, as he is quite new user, it require him to install and configure OpenSSH or dropbear (which he won't regret, anyway, for other occasions).

    /Estel
    I have found the problem, why my N900 desktop was freezing again and again. I played with QCPUFreq and changed the maximum CPU-Frequenz from 805 to 720 (with and without SmartReflex). But my N900 desktop still freezed, mostly while receiving Emails. Some weeks before, I recognized, that my battery lost performance. Now, after changing the battery, my N900 is running normal with CSSU-thumb. I think, there are stronger power-peaks under CSSU-thumb (for example while receiving Emails), as under a non-CSSU-thumb N900. And that could make problems under CSSU-thumb, when the battery is not full working.

    Thanks again for your help. And many thanks for your work on CSSU and CSSU-thumb.

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    seanmcken | # 973 | 2012-10-27, 02:14 | Report

    on my phone thumb is good but sometimes some applications suddenly shuts down.i dnt hav freezing problem. the battery life is good enough now. application launch n close speed is awsome.

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    Estel | # 974 | 2012-10-27, 04:27 | Report

    Originally Posted by Acurus_ View Post
    Now, after changing the battery, my N900 is running normal with CSSU-thumb. I think, there are stronger power-peaks under CSSU-thumb (for example while receiving Emails), as under a non-CSSU-thumb N900.
    Highly unlikely. power regulator inside N900 works in a way, that would result in shutting down whole device (in a "bad", unmanaged way) in case of too long low voltage peak), not any software "hanging". Also, I don't think you had BME disabled - with BME working, device would shut down ("good" way, i.e. quasi-proper shutdown) mu(uuu)ch before any chance for low voltage spike, that would shut device down "bad" way.

    Device "dies" of low power @ ~2850 mV. BME shut it down ~3200 mV (no hard treeshold, as it's monitoring momentary peaks, as opposed to average voltage for given second).

    /Estel

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    _David_ | # 975 | 2012-10-27, 05:27 | Report

    Originally Posted by freemangordon View Post
    you may want to see the result of "openssl speed" for stock and -thumb device:

    http://pastebin.com/Bpdt8nr7
    I'm surprised something like cryptography is sped up so much -- and this is presumably before we get into memory swap situations.

    Can you a) put a third table in showing % improvements and b) keep up the good work?

    About to update from several versions ago.

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    freemangordon | # 976 | 2012-10-27, 09:21 | Report

    Originally Posted by seanmcken View Post
    on my phone thumb is good but sometimes some applications suddenly shuts down.i dnt hav freezing problem. the battery life is good enough now. application launch n close speed is awsome.
    Check which kernel you have running, i.e. "uname -a" in terminal. And share the result here.

    @_David_:

    a) no way

    b) of course, there will be a new update these days

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    Acurus_ | # 977 | 2012-10-27, 09:50 | Report

    Originally Posted by Estel View Post
    Highly unlikely. power regulator inside N900 works in a way, that would result in shutting down whole device (in a "bad", unmanaged way) in case of too long low voltage peak), not any software "hanging". Also, I don't think you had BME disabled - with BME working, device would shut down ("good" way, i.e. quasi-proper shutdown) mu(uuu)ch before any chance for low voltage spike, that would shut device down "bad" way.

    Device "dies" of low power @ ~2850 mV. BME shut it down ~3200 mV (no hard treeshold, as it's monitoring momentary peaks, as opposed to average voltage for given second).

    /Estel
    Possibley my "therory" is wrong. I have described only, what happened and how I fixed it.

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    foobar | # 978 | 2012-10-27, 10:12 | Report

    Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post
    One thing I have noticed is that since updating my test device, I've yet to have an app randomly close with a yellow banner. (Eg "internal error contacts application closed") I'm starting to wonder if there is a rouge library out there that Nokia made with thumb turned on that was causing random crashes before, that this errata patch now fixes.
    For me the Conversations app dies randomly in that way with thumb installed. Haven't seen (or can't remember) any others, though.

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    freemangordon | # 979 | 2012-10-27, 10:18 | Report

    Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    For me the Conversations app dies randomly in that way with thumb installed. Haven't seen (or can't remember) any others, though.
    Any chance to get a coredump?

    http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/...5/sp-rich-core

    AFAIK conversation application crashing is a long standing bug in stock maemo too, maybe I can fix it somehow if given enough info.

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    foobar | # 980 | 2012-10-27, 11:43 | Report

    Thanks, I'll give it a whirl and report back.

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